stopsign002
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Whats the news on the Galaxy Nexus? Is it playing nice with LTE? (though I suppose I am running ROMs so that could effect that)
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How often do our phones natively look for 4g? I mean, they must check every now and then right?
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Sorry for clarifying.... No, that was a bad way to make my point, sorry about that. What I should have said was this; If someone is loading a little bit of information from the internet (like people do with facebook all the time) on a lower bandwidth (as long as it isn't too low) lower latency connection compared to a higher bandwidth higher latency connection, the phone with the 'slower' connection is going to appear faster to the average user. Heres an example of the a study that says checking the weather is the number one thing people do on their smartphone (http://www.huffingto..._n_1818632.html). If they are updating a moving weather map or something of the sort that might take a bit of data, but if they are just refreshing some weather stats do you really think the higher bandwidth comes into play (if lets say we have a 700kbps/60ms compared to 20mbps/200ms)? I would argue 6 of those top 'things people do on their smartphones' aren't very data intensive and dont need a high bandwidth connection, meaning latency would probably be more helpful in making the phone appear to be faster. Many things people do on their phones are small data things, not large data things (though watching video is number two on that list)
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Of course, which is why I said in my earlier post that as long as there is an acceptable bandwidth latency becomes much more important. Do you really believe most people need 4G to check facebook or email? Absolutely not. 4G is total overkill for most things people do on their phones. With a stable (low latency/packloss/not overloaded like sprints network) 3G connection people can do basically all of what they need/want and its fine. I would argue that the average user would say a low latency 3G connection (2mbps) is 'faster' than a high latency 4G connection (20mbps) in just about everything but netflix/download a big file. Latency is what the average public (besides us sprint users and our bogged network) sees as 'slow' connection speeds. Once you have more than 1.5mbps the average user isnt going to notice increased bandwidth, they are going to notice latency. I agree that they will notice with netflix though
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Do you run speed tests all day long on your phone? I would guess not. The typical user is using their phone for Facebook, Email, light browsing, and some stream video (not counting gaming which generally doesnt need internet access). I'm not really sure what you dont understand about my post so I'm not sure how to answer. If you asking for how a bad latency effects users I can explain that, but I'm not sure. Just about anything you do on your phone is latency sensitive. Why do people say their phones are 'faster' on Verizon? Because the latency is lower so when you open a app everything appears much quicker, or when you go to a website it loads faster initially. Not to mention any sort of video chat which is EXTREMELY latency sensitive and is becoming very popular. Phones appear to be faster when the latency is lower because whatever it is they are doing starts loading much faster. People want their devices to be very fast as they move through webpages/facebook pressing links and going from page to page. Latency is going to effect how fast that phone appears to be much more than bandwidth (unless your bandwidth is EXTREMELY bad, like under 250kbps bad like some of us are experiencing). You can stream netflix HD no problem with 700kbps and a low latency. I know, I do it at work (where I have checked the network speeds to see whats going on). But if my latency goes up then its game over. Its more important to have the packets moving back and forth faster after you reach a certain bandwidth (unless we are just downloading big files, which normal users do not do). I dont know how much you know but this is a good article explaining what I'm talking about; http://www.aidanfinn.com/?p=9566
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I always offload. Why? Because ping is basically always better on a wifi network then on a cellular one. If you know anything about how the internet works, you know that ping really is the most important factor to having a good satisfying wireless connection. If you don't believe me find someone who has satellite internet. Yeah, they get 2-3 mbps, but the ping is over a second. Regardless of if it is socially responsible or not, the better ping wins out for 99% of what a user is doing on a smart phone. I literally just leave my wifi on so when I get to the various places I go it automatically connects. Almost every place I spend lots of time (school, work, home) has wifi so why not go for the better ping? Lets put it this way. Guy has a car with 1000 horsepower but his transmission takes a full 2 seconds to shift. Hes gonna lose to my Lincoln LS with 300 horses because of my faster transmission. Pings can be a huge bottleneck. PS I have a degree in computer networking and am working on another one in computer information systems.
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Well I'm comparing the open signal maps website to sprints website, and my knowledge of how cell networks work is limited. Do they use repeaters to get the signal from the phone back to a main boomer tower or something? Cause if so then what I am seeing could be just fine. I'm just a little confused with the information I have found so far