Craig

This morning driving back into town, It happened again. Except, this time I noticed that the wireless provider in the notification area showed as Sprint, but when you open the app, it shows US Cellular. I can post screen shots of this annomaly, but it seems like it's an app bug vs. something to get excited about. I'll check again tonight on my way out there and see if I can pull up an engineering screen. Anyone know how to on CM ROM?

edit: I should note that the signal strengths from the initial screen grab are pretty much spot on to what I get from the Sprint LTE site north on Tower.I may reflash stock so I can get into the engineering screen on my way to work tonight and home in the morning if there is no way to access that info from a CM ROM. 

We need the Engineering screens the next time that happens, please. Then we will know if you found something and if we should be excited. Thanks!

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That's weird. I'd report that in the Signal check thread. Gotta be an error of some kind.

 

What device?

 

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My short-timer S3. Should be in a nexus 5 by weeks end.

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Thoughts? This is on Pena near the big curve headed to DIA. US Cellular LTE?

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So am I understanding correctly that any tower that has 3G accepted in the Denver area will have the eCSFB issue resolved and thus, as long as I am connected to that sites LTE, a tri-band device will automatically connect to LTE without being forced and still receive voice calls?

I bought a N5 (just about 48 hours to delivery!) and I'm just trying to figure out where it should work as planned vs being forced to LTE. Also, would this hold true at any 3G accepted site across the country, or is it site by site, market by market?

Gotta flash back to stock, or at least a TouchWiz ROM, then update, then reflash CM. He/she did backup stock, didn't they??

I think Merlin threw out the number three as how many clusters make up the Denver area. Also, March 6th was mentioned a few weeks back. It's going to get interesting pretty quick. 

Had 800 voice at DIA this morning for the first time. More signs of progress!

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Right now before taxes I pay about $60 per line with my subsidy baked in. A similar 3 line acct on Framily would cost me $65 per line with unlimited PLUS the phone financing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the $20 unlimited buy up includes a new phone each year, you don't add additional financing with that route. It's like a lease on a car, unlimited miles, we get it back after a year of use, but you get a shiny new car and the payment is unchanged. This is a win-win for the power user if you ask me.

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So are the newly accepted LTE towers indicative that the ECSFB issue is just about resolved in the CO area? I was not expecting to see individual towers accepted until the issue was fixed. The towers were all outside the Denver, area, but not by much. Should we hope to see a rise in LTE acceptance in the area in the coming weeks?

It's going to be hard to change the thinking about subsidized handsets with the majority of the public. It's been hard-wired in them that that is how it is and that's how it should be. Anything else is obviously a trick by carriers to get more money from us, right? But when you sit down and actually do the math on it, it's break even or better for most people. If you didn't upgrade at the end of the two year point in the past, you were essentially giving Sprint free money and getting nothing in return for it. A lot of people are going to be on the additional $20/mo w/ annual upgrade which gives you a new device (if you want) each and every year. I have the potential to save upwards of $40/mo even with that additional $20 on my line. Sounds like a deal to me. 

So what was everyone hoping for? More gimmicky tricks that 1% of the users ever use (finger hover preview thingy, or eye tracking to scroll the page). Honestly, the specs on any flagship phone from the past year or two are really going to be pretty future-proof for a whole lot longer than the two year upgrade cycle. I'm eligible for an upgrade from my S3 in a few days. I'm not in any hurry to upgrade right at the two year point for the first time ever. My S3 still hums along and handles anything I throw at it, which is quite a bit. A bigger battery would be nice, but were we really hoping for an octa-core processor that would just suck more juice for minimal if any improvement in performance, and anything over 1080p on this size screen is honestly overkill, a battery drain and just a pi**ing contest among marketing divisions of the manufactures. Same with the camera. I like HTC's approach to go with fewer pixels and give you better overall picture quality vs packing more and more pixels onto these minute photo sensors and destroying image quality in the process. 

In all seriousness, what else do we want in these phones? What more can they put in there that will actually be beneficial?

Is my current connections enough to get lte in my basement? I know the tower I'm connected to is not 3g accepted yet so will everything improve later on?

We have no idea what your current signal strength is.

I think the whole thing about "when am I getting LTE at home" is overblown. Since we're not using Sprint as our home ISP (right? ? ) does it really matter if we have LTE at home? I'd rather have LTE in the places I frequent when I am out vs at home where I use my Wi-Fi for faster speeds and better battery life. Once VoLTE is a reality, it will be different, but for now, meh.

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I received 800 for one day here in FOCO now all I get is RTT again?

 

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Your phone prefers 1900. Unless you have a weak 1900 signal, you will not connect to 800.

Maybe I should say the network prefers your phone on 1900 unless it's too burdened or weak.

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Craig, do you really think we are that close? I'm getting cranked to see a cluster light up in Denver also. Thanks Santa..

Well, we've got a date that's been floated, there is a lot of 800 being spotted around town. My guess for a weekend is simply due to the network being utilized less so if there is a major glitch, it will affect fewer people and give Sprint time to troubleshoot. I would almost guess that it would be one cluster at a time, perhaps each subsequent weekend until it's completely online. Of course, the date floated is a Thursday. Hmmm. Maybe that date is the first cluster activation?? We'll know soon enough. 

Well, no real updates in the new map... From what I can tell, that usually means a cluster is about to light up.

 

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I can't wait for there to be a cluster in Denver! Aside from rush hour traffic, that is. I'm putting money on Sat, either this weekend or the following. 

Literally just got my first 800 voice hit in Arvada. Near Kipling and Ralston.

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I'm trying figure out my next move with an upgrade in four weeks and all the info about Framily and EZ pay. Obviously it has to be a tri-band LTE device, I'm just not keen on most of them available currently.

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Did I ever point a finger at you specifically?

 

 

Might have been best not to quote my post in that case, because then you are addressing me specifically. If it wasn't a personal attack, it sure felt like it because you quoted me. 

The idea of the cloud is great, but until we have high speed, reliable access just about everywhere we go on this earth, it's not truly practical for those that often times find themselves in areas without such access and then, yes, we need the extra space to have access to data that we need. Everyone has different uses, needs and usage patterns with their device and you can't assume that we all use or even have the ability to use the cloud to its fullest potential. It's great in theory; in real world applications, it can be severely lacking. 

Did you even read my post that you originally quoted? I "need" it for work related items. No mention of anything entertainment related. The full US library of aeronautical charts (not even including the airport diagrams and approach plates) takes up close to 8GB of space. Another few for maps of countries and cities I routinely visit while working, add in some pictures and videos that are not immediately uploaded to the cloud because I am in a foreign country with no access to a mobile network and limited access to Wi-Fi and there you go, no more space. Never mind maybe, just maybe wanting to have something available to watch when it's crap weather outside and the stellar hotel wi-fi isn't cutting it. But I guess I'm a bad person for "needing" all that, huh?

Eh, my first PC had a whopping 1 GB hard drive.  I did not "need" more storage, and I somehow survived.

 

AJ

Congrats??

Ahh who needs an SD card any more. Especially with 32GB of internal storage and all the cloud options.

Those of us who spend a lot of time unable to connect to networks (think many miles in the sky, or in foreign countries) and need offline storage of maps, charts, documents, etc. No SD card slot and "only" 32GB doesn't fly for me. I might go for a Nexus with 64GB internal, but nothing less. 

So this screen shot I just took I have a question. I was in Broomfield this morning when I was connected to 800 in Brighton. Really cool. My question is the ehrpd signal strength stronger than the 800 connection. Is this cause I'm connected to ehrpd closer to me on another site?

 

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I'll take a stab at this one as well.

I believe that, unless you have altered your PRL, Sprint will typically prefer voice to be on 1900 and will switch to 800 when the 1900 signal is weak (think inside a building or finge areas). Once you are on an 800 signal, your phone will hold the 800 until you lose it, at which point it will scan for 1900 again. My guess is that while you were out, your phone switched from 1900 to 800, then you drove some distance from that tower (or some tower wtih 800), but were still able to maintain the 800 signal. Meanwhile, your data was hoping between towers as normal, so it's connected to a tower closer to you that does not currently have 800 voice deployed.

Clear as mud?

i have a question that im sure i know and its in here but please forgive me for asking a simple question. I have noticed some sites going to 3g on the map. Does this mean 3g accepted and those are close to going live with lte? Or does that mean there only going to be 3g? thanks again and sorry for the easy question

There are very few sites that will not be upgraded to LTE. The 3G pins simply mean that the NV equipment is installed and has passed the acceptance evaluation. They will not really show any benefit until they are turned on in the "clusters" that we're hearing more and more about. I think earlier in the thread, Merlin stated that Denver had three clusters covering the metro area. LTE may or may not come online at a given tower when the clusters are activated. Depends on whether or not the LTE portion of the site passed evaluation. 

Looking at my schedule I would say otherwise...

Metro area? <fingers crossed>

The sites inside the airport have had a lot of work going on. Note: it is also a royal pain in the ass to access those sites.

The airport sites need the upgrade in a bad way. Is it typical to completely lose the eHRPD/EV-DO connection (even though it still showed a strong signal) when upgrades are going on? I thought it was my phone wigging out on me, even reflashed my ROM before I figured out it was just in the area of DIA and was not ROM related at all.