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Compared to EVDO, yes. But your phone is always connected to 1x, so whether or not it's connected to WiFi, it's still using a mobile network.

Oh, naturally, that's why I said EV-DO and not "mobile network". AJ said that battery drain was the same on WiFi vs low-signal EV-DO, which is why I questioned it.

Check the advanced settings for Wi-Fi, to see if it's disabling it during sleep.

 

Personally, I noticed (back when I had the EVO LTE) that it would drop WiFi while sleeping no matter what, reconnecting every so often. It lead to delayed notifications while connected.

 

And AJ, what do you say about Sprint's claims that WiFi improves battery life? They claim certain devices can see upwards of 50-100% improvement in battery life during heavy usage, compared to using EV-DO. Anecdotally, I have noticed similar findings.

Gig of data used for absolutely nothing.

420 MB, actually

(How my math worked: average of all displayed speeds was 28.01. assuming time of ~120 seconds (lines up with ~15 seconds per speed test), that's a total of 3361.2 Mb transferred, or 420.8 MB (bits->bytes))

So basically you know sprint has issues and dont want to talk about it.

Its all legit constuctive criticism in which sprint wants to keep hush.

I manage 20 bus offices and all have VZ LTE as a second source for data.

None of my LTE Modems fall ever below 11-megs ever. I do test and monitor full time.

I do know that if you are power user VZ and Sprint will slow your modem down. I know provisioning staff that have told

me if I ever slow down to call and have them open my account back up for speed. I wont get technical here on what is done.

 

My issues is Sprint is selling LTE in an area that IS live and they are no furture along today than 8months ago.

Yes I will most likely leave but I will make statements that other potential new accounts should be aware before they are stuck.

Here on s4gru, we advocate going with the carrier that best suits your needs. If Sprint aggravates you so, go! We're not Sprint, we honestly don't care if you stay or go. We're just a bunch of enthusiasts. We just don't like people ranting and raving. If you have issues, Sprint has customer service channels you can go through. If they are not satisfactory, take action. Complaining here solves precisely nothing.

 

That being said, Sprint advertises no throttling, so your comments surprise me.

What is with the trend of removing buttons? I want my search button back! I wonder how they plan on doing a menu and multitask button.

Check out the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 with all onscreen buttons. Google has been recommending devs remove the dedicated menu and search buttons, and add in App Switch. Part of the reason is, hidden menus are bad for intuitive user interfaces. Phones without them show an "action overflow" button on (almost) all apps.

If you're using rubbing alcohol, use something extremely high percentage (98% or higher), or use denatured alcohol. Otherwise, the alcohol will evaporate before the water, leading to the same problem all over again.

 

Also, it's the charging port (microUSB) that you should be checking.

They are not replacing Wimax with LTE yet. They are deploying LTE in addition to WiMax.

Oh, so using the same panels, keeping WiMax running? I suppose Clearwire just has enough spectrum to do that, huh? Does anyone (*cough* AJ *cough*) have a breakdown of what spectrum

Wait, if Clearwire is replacing WiMax base stations with LTE, doesn't that mean WiMax is going to be slowly disappearing? If so, I suppose it just kinda sucks to be a new Galaxy SII owner.

The article did say it was a Verizon device; might be that Sammy is once again splitting chipsets across carriers. For whatever reason.

If the ID is right there, then yes. It's out in the open for anyone to see.

k. crossposting ho!

 

Update: definitely Sprint! I went up, asked the guys a couple questions. Some of them were a little weirded out when I told them I was a wireless enthusiast (heh), and others were super friendly and joked around with me. Conversation basically went:

Team Lead: "Hey, you work for Sprint?"

Me: "Yup, work at the store right here."

Team Lead: "Awesome! That's what we're working on right now! Putting up 4G LTE and Network Vision! Those are the new radios and panels right over there..."

 

First pic: from a distance, you can see an initial cable running up to the Sprint panels, on the right:

 

Second pic: closeup of a couple of the guys prepping the RRUs and the new panels! If you look closely, you can see "DE34IP709".

 

Crossposting from the Sponsor sections: the tower in Lowell, MI is definitely in progress.

 

Rob/mods: Can I post pics outside the sponsor area if one has the site ID on the panel visible in the pic? I figure it'd be okay, but still, worth asking.

It's nothing special really. Apple doesn't like to share anything they use. They are extremely secretive. GSX allows a ton of diagnostic info, remotely. GSX operates using an Apple ID configured for it normally. None excerpt Apple have access for that reason.

 

To allow Sprint employees access while still keeping track of which users were doing what was a big hurdle, both for Sprint and Apple.

I worked closely with a few Mac OS and iOS app developers a couple years past, and I know exactly what you mean. While it's gotten better, at the time there were several APIs that were completely undocumented, and many function calls that, officially, didn't exist.

 

What all does GSX expose that's not available to the end user, or to similar diagnostic programs on Android? My limited experience with it shows it reveals app crashes, battery health, etc. Nothing too dangerous.

 

The trial occurred in October and then disappeared. And portions of the GSX instructions at first told techs to open the phone to diagnose issues more effectively, something Sprint couldn't do.

 

I think Apple is starting to realize that Apple stores can't be the only authorized locations to open iPhones, they simply don't have enough locations and Geniuses. I would put money on Sprint tech's being able to open iPhones in the next few months because of it.

Truly? That should be interesting. The iPhone was never one I found particularly fun to take apart on my spare time...

Sprint corporate stores got GSX access yesterday. Authorized repair stores are delayed. I'm surprised Apple did it at all knowing the history behind the GSX trial program my store was a part of and Apple's tendencies.

Oh come now, that sounds very much like a story. You simply must tell it!

 

(and the reason I asked was, yes, ASCs are delayed at getting GSX rolled out; we were "trained" on it about a month ago)

They bought QNX back in 2009 or 2010. Basically they knew the old java based BB 5/6 just wasn't going to be up to the job they needed. QNX gave them a platform for the future plus since it was already heavily used by the auto industry, it gave them a revenue stream outside of mobile.

Definitely seems like a smart move on the surface. Hopefully, it ends up better than the ill-fated venture between Sprint and Nextel, heh. And I hope it's not "too little, too late", as people in my market are leaving BB phones in droves for Android and iOS.

People don't think they have to turn their phones off? There are some really stupid people out there!

It's quite simple: they don't realize what they have. Many of these folks grew up on flip phones for a decade, and then moved in to the world of "smart". They have expectations of phones being tiny talk-only machines, except these ones can do internetty stuff sometimes.

 

I tell people, "You've got a laptop at home, right? You give that thing a good reboot once a week at least, right? Well, what you've got in your pocket is a miniature computer." The analogy sticks. Usually.

It's running Qualcomm's S4 dual core chip at 1.5 Ghz. The underlying OS is based on QNX, which was bought by BB a few years back. I'm not sure how the runtime works. I think it's a separate component that is updated as needed. Currently it supports android 2.3.3 apps, but BB is going to update to android 4.1 soon.

 

Again, basically it's there so that BB can boost it's app count until more native BB10 apps are developed.

Woah, seriously? I used QNX for a project back in the day, something like 2001. Shows how much I've been keeping tabs on RIM/Blackberry. Hopefully the runtime doesn't have a bunch of overhead from trying to emulate Android APIs or something silly like that.

 

In other news, I love how ridiculously prolific Unix-alikes have become in the mobile world. iOS has its core in Darwin, Android is Linux, and BB10 is QNX.

Not sure if you're being serious or not. But no, it's not an android fork. But they did build android compatibility into it so there would be a bigger app universe for BB users.

Being completely serious. When someone tells me it has "gingerbread runtime", it definitely sounds like "yet another android fork".

 

That does help ease my mind. I'm more interested now if it's a separate (obviously ARM-based) architecture with compatibility.

Another easy way to get your MSL code is to activate another phone online. Every time you use the automated online activation, they will email you your MSL code automatically.

 

But note, that it only works when changing between one LTE device and another LTE device. The online activation fails for me when switching out LTE to WiMax and vice versa. I always have to call when a WiMax device is involved. And when you call to activate, you don't get the email.

 

If you have another LTE device just switch them out online and you will get MSL code emails for both. Every time I switch out a device for the first time, I log its MSL code in Evernote for safe keeping. And all is right with the world.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

Does it actually give out the MSL? My experiences with such automated systems is that they give out the OTKSL (one-time key subsidy lock) - a one-time-use key that works like the MSL for initial programming, but is then rendered useless.

 

But like unccjester said, if you ask for it, they should give it out. It's a pretty easy thing to find, in Sprint's systems, once one has access (store reps, repair techs, chat reps, etc...)

I'm looking forward to the Q10. I'll be dropping out of Android for this one... tho I guess that's not entirely true since BB10 has the Gingerbread runtime. They announced a few days ago that the runtime will be updated to Jellybean.

 

I just hope Sprint carries both the white and black models... I'm leaning towards white.

Wait, BB10 is just a fork of Android? That's kinda...

 

Next you're gonna tell me it's basically a fancy Touchwiz or Sense, but with Blackberry's market rather than Google Play.

Actually there was a carrier update that fixed some data connectivity issues as well.

Oh, I certainly know that. Our market here was severely affected by that issue. One of those good "restart the phone, it'll work again. they know about it, they're fixing it" kind of issues.

 

People seem to assume that because it's an iPhone that it is perfect 100% of the time. More often than not, the iPhones are the ones we see most often in S&R because the users don't understand they have to do at least a little maintenance like turning it off/on once in a while. Try explaining to someone that the issue they've been getting progressively more annoyed at for 3 months would have been fixed if they power cycled their phone. More often than not they don't take kindly to that even though it's a simple fact.

I don't know if you've experienced this, but I've seen that most iPhone customers don't even know that turning the phone off is something you do. Or can do. To be fair, I've seen the same thing with other phones like the OG EVO, with people coming in with a host of weird things, and the phone hasn't had a good battery pull in 6+ months.

 

Speaking of that, is GSX one of the tools you have access to, by chance?

or When having iPhone5 Data Problems, Told me "The Towers Are Weird Like that" when several coworkers have Sprint devices no 3g issues, had my tri-fi in 3g only mode and my moms android running data and the only device not connecting to 3g was the iPhone. Needless to say I returned it for that. But don't dare ask an entry level rep ANYTHING about Network Vision.

Actually, there was an issue with the iPhone 5 and data services, which has since been resolved with a carrier settings update.

 

Edit: gah, beaten to a different issue description. That's what I get for leaving a tab open in the background.

In my experience, a device that shows it is charging when it is not, usually has liquid damage around the charging port. Ever get the phone wet? Drop it in snow? Leave it next to a sweating drink?

 

Either that, or the port itself is weakening or coming loose from the board. Take it in to a repair center.

That is a TDMA airlink burst phenomenon. It affects GSM, too.

 

AJ

By the way, googling "TDMA airlink burst phenomenon" without quotes brings up this thread as the first result

Even when NV deploys, do you really think my dead-zone situation will improve?

NV 3G is supposedly 20% better than pre-NV, so maybe.

 

They're rolling out Voice (and later LTE) on 800 MHz, the old Nextel/iDEN band, which should dramatically improve your voice coverage issue. However, the iPhone 4 has no support for that band at all.

 

Should I ask Sprint about an Airave?

If you're in a fair/marginal service area, they should send one out for free. They work great when they work. Don't go in to a store about it; call in (*2 from your phone).

 

Should I be concerned about the Data Roaming? Will they kick me off (I'm not roaming on purpose - I can't help what the phone's doing and my location).

You have 300 MB of data roaming per month. If you go over this consistently, they will contact you and offer you solutions, up to and including termination of your service.

Actually even the EVO 3D will support data on 800smr. Think about it.

 

Looking forward to the 800smr rollout probably more than LTE itself!

 

Sent from my little Note2

But the Motorola Photon lacked 800 ESMR support. I do believe that was the last phone that didn't support it, save possibly the iPhone 4/4S.