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That looks like Carbon framework in the Status Bar.  Is that stock 4.3 or CarbonRom with minor cosmetic tweaks?  (P.S. I love Carbon.)

Stock Android 4.3. Yup. Clean and simple.

While i am currently at a place where i am limited on what i can and cannot upload, i would be happy to take the info i have and share it at a later time.  I will say that without a discount, you save on a single or break even on a double with the 1500.  on the 3000, it fluctuates depending on lines. 

Whipped this up earlier. Doesn't include tax, insurance, or other addons, because presumably they will be the same. Assumes unlimited smartphone data for all 10 lines, as well as the inability to stack Everything Data plans. Rounds anything that ends in ".99" to the nearest dollar. Doesn't bother comparing the 3000. Pic is with a 10% discount (Credit Union, as it's the most popular), but different discounts don't change much.

After doing a full spreadsheet on this, no one saves money except for single lines.  the only time you save money witht he new plan is if you are on a 3000+ plan or if you are running multiples of the unlimited everything plan.

That's not true; plans with 6 and over do end up saving money, (especially with discounts) as you can only have one "Family Share Plan" per account, in general. That can only be overridden by people who really know what they're doing, otherwise you end up with double billing and nothing works. In other words, for 99% of consumers, you can only have one. With Everything Data expiring in a few months, this won't matter soon anyways.

On a Everything Data Share plan, after 5 lines, you either have to put it under someone else's name to get another Everything Data Share plan, or start adding individuals for $80 - or switch to a business plan, which requires a federal tax ID.

This allows for a single bundled plan of 10 lines at a price of $56 per person (plus addons and tax, minus discounts, of course) for unlimited. That's pretty much MVNO pricing-tier of inexpensive, but includes a subsidy. At 5 lines, it's $61 per person.

Yes, for most people, this is unfortunately a price hike. As Rob has stated in other threads about this, it's very likely that Sprint wasn't making any money - and probably losing some on the device subsidy - on those $30/month little addon lines.

And some members of congress are flipping out right about now about those DAMN CHINESE and their SPYING WAYS.

One would think they would use their name into it like Sprint Up.

Bad ROM. Find a new one.

You can tell from the name alone...

Not really, Apple hates seeing anything they sell discounted or on sale.

This offer (which has been going on for a while now; stopped for a bit, and is back) has been applicable to the iPhone for its entire duration. Same thing with the Sprint Phone Connect Save $100 offer. As is the Credit Union Port In Offer, but that's $100 on your bill, not instant.

Hey that's out where I live now, I don't know about the middle of nowhere, but neighboring on the middle of nowhere

Like I said, outside of Portland!

Isn't this just the $100 off instant port-in credit? Seems natural that they'd apply it to the iPhones, as they apply it to everything else.

You mean 10% of $150, so $15 off?

Eheh, yes, 30*5 is 150, not 300. Somehow my brain was thinking 10 lines.

I wouldn't trust a rep at a Sprint store for anything, and I am one. They don't tell us hardly anything related to network vision. Chances are he doesn't know what he's talking about, unless the info came from here. (PS s4gru is awesome)

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So... new math time. Single contract plan @24 months and buying a second device at MSRP vs "One Up" @24 months and two phones.

Let's assume you're buying the iPhone 5S at $649.99 on One Up, or $199.99 on contract. Let's also assume you're a big fan of Apple's products, and want the newest one as soon as it comes out (once a year) (as many people do).

I'll be including the activation fee, as you'll be paying it more than once on One Up. I won't be including Sales Tax... because that would be too confusing across different states.

With the regular contract side, you're paying for your device, $199.99 + $36, and then $80 for 20 months. That's $1835.99 over 20 months. If you buy a new device at 12 months, add $649.99 to that (and let's assume the iPhone 6 will retail for that, because it probably will), for $2,485.98 (no activation fee here!). However, you'll be able to sell your previous phone, an iPhone 5, for around $350, making the total $2,135.98. Even though you get an upgrade at 20 months, you decide to hold off because the iPhone 6 will be out in 4 months. Add 4 months of service, for $2,455.98.

Now, let's go with Sprint One Up instead. You put $0 down at point of sale, less sales tax (which again, not including). You pay $36 on your first bill. You'll pay that again when you upgrade at 12 months, so that's $72. Your service is $80, you have a phone payment plan of $27, but you get a discount of $15 because discounts, meaning you're paying $92/month. At 24 months, plus the two activation fees, that's $2,280.

That's a total savings of $175.98. Not a huge amount of money, to be honest - but it is a savings. And, in my mind, there's one huge advantage to this - you don't have to deal with the extra hassle of trying to sell your old phone to recoup the cost of buying a new one.

Fair Market Value of the iPhone 5 was obtained from www.movaluate.com. It's interesting to note that the AT&T and VZW iPhone 5's FMV is approximately $100 better than Sprint's.

MATH ROUND TWO

Let's assume you're going with the HTC One, instead, and will be upgrading to a similarly priced phone in one year. $199.99 regular price, $549.99 MSRP.

For regular: $80*24 + $36 + $199.99 + $549.99 = $2,705.98. Your HTC Android phone is, unfortunately, going to depreciate in value faster than almost anything else you own. I'll assume you can sell it for $130 (what you can get for the HTC EVO 4G LTE right now), for a total spent of $2,575.98.

For One Up: Your "phone payment" is $549.99 / 24 ~= $23. $88 * 24 + $72 = $2,184 spent, for two phones over two years. That's a total savings of $391.98. A much better deal.

Last example, the Galaxy Note II (to a similarly priced device such as the Note III), a $299.99 device on contract, $649.99 MSRP.

For regular: $80*24 + $36 + $299.99 + $649.99 = $2,869.98

For One Up: Same as the iPhone 5S, $2,280.

That's a total savings of $589.98. Less being able to sell your Note II for $300, that makes it $289.98.

So, if you're the type to want to buy a new phone every year, especially devices that are brand new and have just come out, it's a pretty good deal, and will save you money. If you're frugal and are willing to buy used devices and ride a little behind the technology curve, this is a terrible deal - but it wasn't designed for you. For the Apple consumer, like my first example, it's almost a no-brainer; you don't have to put any money down, and always have the best phone you can get.

No that wont happen as the issue with sprint is their antiquated backhaul......tmobile has fiber almost everywhere already

 

That wont be a big issue like it was on sprint....as far as spectrum time till tell

Been browsing some old threads lately, have we?

Well, let's do a little math, shall we?

You sign up for 24 payments of $27/month. This also gives you a discount of $15/month off. So you pay $12/month extra for this.

I have no idea why they're doing it that way. Is that discount going to be promotional? Anyways.

After 12 months, you've paid in $144 (or $324, depending on how you're counting), plus the initial cost of the activation fee. That's $180, and you can upgrade again. Of course, you have to trade in your device, which could be upwards of $400-$500 you're losing out on.

After that, you upgrade, and reset your cycle of 24 payments of $12 (or something). Do you still owe the other 12 months worth of payments on your previous device? Or does that just... "go away" when you "upgrade"?

Seems marginally okay to me, but still not really worth it, due to losing out completely on the device trade in - especially if you go with something that holds its value, like iPhones.

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I'm pretty sure Opera does this as well.

I thought with those new unlimited for life plans you couldn't use discounts, did that change?

You can still use discounts! They come off the "data" section of the bill instead of the "first line" like it used to be.

So, for example, on the old plans, if you had 5 lines and a 10% discount, it still only came off the first line of $110, so $11 off. For the new plans, if you have 5 unlimited data lines, that's 10% of $300, so $30 off.

damn! I thought I remembered another.. Oh well, thanks for the reply

The plan you're likely thinking of, there is an option for Unlimited Talk and Text, and then 1 GB of data (instead of unlimited) for $10 cheaper.

The entire Dura- line (Duracore, Duramax, Duraplus, DuraXT) support 1X on ESMR 800 MHz. They're on my official list of "phones that support 800 MHz".

They're also newer than the EVO 3D and aren't the Photon or iPhone 4(s), so there's that too

i noticed when sprint first came out with the gauranteed unlimited for life, there were 2 options, the completely unlimited and one where ur data and messages were unlimited but your minutes were not, i cant seem to find that one anymore.  Is there only one unlimited type of plan now.  Ive had the everything data share plan for 3 years and im trying to figure out if i should switch for the unlimited for life gaurantee.  or ride out my contract february 2015 and see what happens??

Unfortunately, you're remembering it wrong. There was never a "unlimited for life" plan that included limited minutes.

Your right but if the service doesn't work and it did before is that my fault. 

Obviously. The only thing that's your "fault" is force roaming on VZW. That's why I said

If it doesn't work, why stay? Work with Sprint to get credits or waived ETFs.

I don't think that should necessarily apply if it's because of Sprint's screw up with turning on 1x 800 and it not allowing any texting or calls. That's a pretty big screw up.

 

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Why shouldn't it apply? If you're forcing yourself to roam, you're not only breaking the Terms and Conditions, you're no longer using the service you're being sold.

If it doesn't work, why stay? Work with Sprint to get credits or waived ETFs.

I'm having the same problem my phone is connected but has no service it's been going on for over two months.they replaced my phone but it didn't help. I now just use a Verizon prl.

You know, if Sprint service does not work for you, and Verizon service does, you really just need to pony up and switch.

I thought the whole point of going after 600 MHz was to get some decent sub-GHz spectrum that works inside the IBEZ. There are a whole lot of people who'll presumably never see the 800 lovin' due to being too close to Canada or Mexico...

This navigation crap though.... with so many free options already, why is this even an issue?  I mean hell, pay shipping and I'll send you a garmin lol

Heh, I agree, pay me shipping, and I'll send you mine.

Reminds me of one time I did a "side-by-side comparison". I was out driving in the absolute middle of nowhere (outside of Portland, Michigan), and had gotten myself lost. Nothing but cornfields, trees, and hills all around me. Not even a house in sight. I looked down at my phone (at the time, was an HTC EVO 4G LTE, which as we all know gets, ah, mediocre to bad reception), and it showed a single bar of 1X. I whipped out my Tom-Tom from the glove compartment, and started directions to "Home" using both simultaneously.

As the Tom-Tom took four minutes to actually get a GPS lock, the phone won - but only barely.