koiulpoi

You heard wrong. The original Motorola Photon had one of the best results in our testing ever. However, the newer Motorola Photon Q LTE was a dog. Really bad 3G and mediocre LTE radio performance in our testing. Only the EVO LTE was worse, really.

 

Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

So, about that signal strength device comparison article...

Without people who are crazy about smartphones, there would not be this forum nor the contributions. I normally pay for forums that I have much interest in. I hope to contribute financially soon... but all this taking down from people who have no clue about other members is not appreciated. BTW, I am a 38 yo professional... not a punk with pulled down worn jeans.

 

I am a direct person too and was an admin/creator for a large car forum. But not every post of mine is a direct insult of all my members and the very reason for them being there!

I, um. Look. You're on the internet, dealing with the general public. If you're taking personal offence to something someone on the internet says, especially when not even directed at you, the problem is actually between you and yourself. Nobody's talking down being crazy about smartphones, and I don't think anyone here actually cares if you're a "punk" or a "professional". What's talked down is overuse (and some would say abuse) of shared wireless resources for purely entertainment-related purposes, which has caused the "spectrum crunch", as it is called.

 

 

Did the Sprint version have any branding on the back?

I did not get much of a chance to look at it for long, but I did not see any Sprint logos on the device at all; I actually had to ask the rep if it was the Sprint version I was looking at.

I wanted to hear how the Samsung videos pronounce "enginerring," since that is how Samsung spells it.  But, okay, you get a free pass on that question...

 

AJ

You give me too little credit; if you notice, I spelled it wrong in my post, as well, on purpose. I was springboarding off your comment about Samsung's misspellings, pointing out that such videos would never contain such information, as not even technicians are supposed to see the enginerring screens!

How do they pronounce "enginerring"?

 

 

AJ

Oh, silly AJ, assuming that Sprint employees get any training on how enginerring screens work at all. Most don't even know that dialer codes exist, much less secret menus!

So all the towers around my current location are 3G NV.

 

I did some speed checks, and the results were abysmal.

 

Signal = 76dbm   (for 3G, obviously, unsure where the wimax comes from)

 

Bottom results 3G, middle = wimax, top = home wifi

 

All tests taken from same location (my bed!)

 

 

 

Come September, Ill give Sprint a ring if the results continue to be this bad.

 

I swear the 3G was better pre-NV.

Is this site you're connected to 4G LTE accepted? Without that, 3G NV can still be hooked up to legacy backhaul. Even with that, they just might not be running enough EV-DO carriers. How bad was your Ec/Io (aka how much interference was there)?

How do you pronounce that anyways? LIke "A-div" or "A-tiiv? How about "A-teev"? "Uh-tiv" anyone?

 

 

-Luis

On all of the advertisements, I've seen it like:

creativ

originativ

innoavativ

 

which would make it pronounced ā-tiv. However, the Samsung training videos pronounce it uh-tēv.

Yep, it will be called the Galaxy S4 Skyrocket.

 

This messsege brought to you by Sprint and the letters GS and the number 4

 

Samsung Galaxy S 4 MegaEpic 4G LTE Bad Touch-panel Skyrocketing Magical Rainbow Unicorn Edition, with Google™

I actually recommend against using a non-stock SMS app if you use Sprint's voicemail. If the app intercepts the voicemail texts before the Voicemail app gets them, you'll get a bunch of garbled text messages, and no voicemail notifications. I've seen it too many times. If you're using Google Voice though, go ahead!

Us phone geeks take great care of our phones. There is virtually no signs of wear and tear on my EVO LTE. When I got my nexus 7 it ran circles around my EVO. I don't like to play high graphic games on my EVO because it drops frames, makes my phone extremely hot to the point where I have to put it down and battery life is not all that. So if I had some extra money to drop I would do this. One thing that sucks is the evo LTE did not hold its value and its going for only $230-280 on craiglist

Worse than that.

http://www.movaluate.com/htc/evo-4g-lte-sprint

"Excellent" right now is going for $150 Fair Market Value. Anyone selling it on Craigslist for over $200 is, well, being an average Craiglist poster. (I wonder if this all shouldn't be its own thread? Maybe not.)

you listed unlimited data as 1gb, so I changed it to 20gb in the quote. Lol

 

Sent from my HTC ONE from Tapatalk 2

Oh, whoops. Changed the numbers, but not what they represent. Either way, the math's right, no? And Unlimited isn't capped at 20 GB, even though that's a ridiculous amount of data to use on a phone.

Reading the article, isn't this what Apple already does for the CDMA iPhone? It asks what carrier it's on when it powers up, and then activation goes through Apple's servers. This would just extend that 100% to GSM devices, from the 90% it already was.

:-P Sent from my HTC ONE from Tapatalk 2

...what?

It looks like they do, on my device at least. Currently running a CM10.2 (Android 4.3) ROM on my Galaxy Note II. My 1X signal is -103, and my EV-DO signal is -104 (both right on the normal edge of usefulness, from my experience), but the "bars" show it wavering between two and three bars. And, it seems they're right; my Ec/Io for each is -3.0 dB and -2.5 dB respectively (just saw EV-DO jump up to -1.5 dB), which I understand means there's almost no interference at all between my device and the site, and I'm probably the only user on the entire sector.

 

That being said, EV-DO actually works very well at a signal of ~-103 dBm, with an Ec/Io of about -3 dB. I just did a speedtest and got this:

 

And yes, this is an NV 3G cell.

Seems like this document from Verizon actually disproves your discount calculation. It states that discount only applies for the data portion, and not the line access portion, so the .22 in your calculation would only apply to the 60 dollar portion.

Yes, I thought this was well known...? Maybe not. That was one of the big reasons Sprint changed the discount structure for the new "Unlimited, My Way" plans. The discount only applies to the Data section of the bill - "to more closely align our discount and pricing structure with our competitors, to reduce customer confusion" (or something close to that is what was announced).

 

So, new math.

 

Sprint: 50 (1st line) + 40 (2nd line) + 30 (3rd line) + 20 (1 GB data) + 20 (1 GB data) - 8.8 (22% discount off of $40) = $151.2

 

Now, if you wanted unlimited data...

 

Sprint: 50 (1st line) + 40 (2nd line) + 30 (3rd line) + 30 (1 GB data) + 30 (1 GB data) - 8.8 (22% discount off of $40) = $166.8. Slightly more money, but a much better deal.

 

VZW: 40 (1st line) + 40 (2nd line) + 30 (3rd line) + 60 (2 GB data) - 13.2 (22% discount off of $60) = $156.8

 

And yes, not everyone will be eligible for a discount. However, Sprint has the "Credit Union Program", which only requires you to be a member of a credit union, which is a ridiculously easy way to get 10% off your bill and wave all activation and upgrade fees. Oh, also, if you port your number from another carrier and put on the Credit Union Discount, they'll give you a $100 service credit after you've been with Sprint for 61 days. So yeah.

The battery on internal phones are covered under tep. If a battery goes bad in iPhone, evo, one, etc we just order a while new phone in store.

 

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Precisely. Which, in my opinion, is somewhat ridiculous of a policy. Devices with removable batteries do not have their batteries covered after 1 year, as they are "accessories". Phones without removable batteries, the battery is considered an essential component, and you can exchange for it. Because, you know, so many people consider their battery to be non-essential to running the phone.

GREAT SITE EVERYONE.  I will contribute. 

 

Does anyone know if there are any Sprint phones yet that can work on the 800Mhz LTE with 1900Mhz of course as well for data?  I know the tri-band phones are coming soon in a few months and will cover the 3 frequencies.  I am wanting to buy a phone in the next couple of weeks so wanteed to know if there are any 800Mhz LTE capable phones already out on Sprint that will be able to receive 800mhz LTE once it is turned on in the coming weeks and months?  With spotty coverage where I live and drive, I really could use the 800Mhz for data too as a backup for the spotty 1900mhz.  Thoughts? 

No, Sprint is skipping dual band (1900 + 800) and going straight to Tri-Band (1900 + 800 + 2500). The first phone will be the LG G2.

 

That being said, just about any phone out there today (aside from the iPhone 4 and 4S) will be able to use the 800 MHz for 1X (voice + texting, with slow data fallback).

Yep, we swapped the Gnex phones for S3 phones, much much better in just about every way. The phone works in so many more places.

 

Only thing I miss is the Nexus OS.

If you don't mind rooting or loading custom software, Samsung's bootloaders are very unlocked. You'll lose your engineering screens, but you can run whatever you want.

Turn on the arrows in the SwiftKey settings. I can't live without them.

 

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I did for a while. It's just not the same.

Those are pre WP7 and WP8 Windows Mobile phones. I don't know if you can compare those to the current, modern Windows Phone 8 OS.

You can't. And I'm probably the only person on the planet who actually misses Windows Mobile 2003 and WinMo 6. A simpler time, when styluses were required...

Does anyone have any experience with external keyboards? Either through a case, or through bluetooth? It seems to me that without it being integrated in to the phone or a case, it would be pretty unwieldy and more or less defeat the purpose.

 

I'm used to typing on glass (Google Keyboard and Swiftkey are both great), but man, there are a lot of times I want a real keyboard and some arrow keys.

I know this is completely not what you're looking for, but the iPad Mini has so far impressed me with its ability to find and hold on to LTE. It seems stronger than any other non-hotspot device I've played with, including the iPad Maximus.

sprint has already changed that when they launched wimax. remember the 10 dollar premium data add-on, pre wimax that was not there. when people would complain about it i would say to them ok, go to at&t or verizon pay 30 dollars over there, and sprint got more subs during that time then ever, mostly due to the HTC evo (great phone) lasted me up till about a year ago before the processor overheated and just went on a boot loop non stop

You... do realize the post you quoted is from 10 months ago, right?

Ummm, I definitely was not born in 1996.  Nor did I graduate in 1996.  But it does show the year I was married.  

 

Robert

I think I speak for all of (some of) us when I say, awww!

 

I personally care more for 800 mhz voice than I do LTE. Low signal kills battery life and I often find myself having to go nearer to windows on the current Sprint 1900 mhz signal I get.

Aaactually, here in Grand Rapids, there's only a (very) small handful of 800 MHz 1X towers turned on. I've seen some devices that, when stuck on 800 with low signal (and for some reason not jumping back to the superior 1900 signal (yes it happens)), have become "ear warmers" with bad battery life. I know it will get supremely better once 800 is everywhere, but it's not.

Plus 37.5M could actually be 38,400K or even 39,320K in a lot of applications that don't unambiguously state or account for the difference between when they mean Mib and Kib and Mb and Kb... This is related to the common rage on how a "1TB" HDD is like "931GB" on some OSes.

Well, the industry standard is supposed to be, for computer memory, 1 KB = 1024 B (aka 1 KiB). For storage and data transmission (networks, etc), 1 KB = 1000 B. 37.5 Mbps should be 37,500,000,000 bits per second (maintaining the 3 sig figs). Should be. I wish we could all just agree and kick the asses of people who use the units wrong.

In my experience most of rural Indiana has CDMA 800 already.  Almost all of 30 is already covered so I wouldn't expect you to have any problems.  Just don't expect much improvement in EVDO, I haven't found much of that yet....

That makes sense. Improvements to 3G EV-DO are separate. While I'm not certain, it seems plausible that on a handful of sites you might have 1X 800 broadcasting, but still have legacy EV-DO. While Network Vision sites are supposedly able to broadcast ~20% further, even advanced backhaul won't help you if your EV-DO carriers are all overloaded. Only more carriers, more cell sites, or offloading to 4G or WiFi can help the network then.