Trip

Thanks Mike.  Not sure if it was intended to fix my crash issue, but I can report that it still crashes.  Diagnostics sent, and also a crash feedback report through Android.

- Trip

3 minutes ago, mikejeep said:

Yes, SCP does assume that because the reference I usually use (forgot to link in my last post) showed that. I'll make that change in the next update and let that author know, as I mentioned before that site has been reliable until now.

Regarding B66, make sure you see my edit in the post above.  Quoted below for convenience.

13 minutes ago, Trip said:

EDIT:  But it occurs to me that someone could own the top 15x15 of AWS-1 and the bottom 5x5 of AWS-3, and then set up a 20x20 in B66 that technically has an EARFCN centered in AWS-1 but is actually AWS-3 since it covers AWS-3 spectrum.  Not really sure there's a good way out of that, were it to come up.  (I, personally, had no problem with it just saying "AWS" as it did previously.)

I note that AWS-2 is the block right above the PCS G-block.  AWS-4 is the Dish 2000-2020/2180-2200 spectrum.  Each of these are in Dish's control and were split up differently from the way the FCC assigned them, such that AWS-2 downlink and 2000-2020 are B70 (the uplink-only portion of AWS-3 is B70's uplink), but 2180-2200 are part of B66.  It's a mess.

4 minutes ago, mikejeep said:

Dual SIM is not enabled by default, when I pulled up your report I didn't check to see if it was enabled on your device just thought it might be a quick fix for you. Since it requires Android 10+ it should be grayed out.. although I wonder if there's some other version check that is being missed, and the root cause of your issue.. I will add that to the list of possibilities I'm checking.

Interesting.  Okay.  Every other device I tested on is Android 11 or higher, so that could be it.  I did not test it on my lone Android 10 device, a Revvlry that I flashed with G6 Play firmware.  Maybe I should try that one.

If I could have gotten away with it, all of my logging devices would have been e5 Plays on Android 8.  They support Timing Advance, they are reliable, they have removable/replaceable batteries, and they've been cheap for as long as I've been using them.  Of course, they don't support NR, and have several models with varying band support.  My AT&T one died a while ago and I replaced it with a Pixel 3a.  The one I was using on Verizon stopped working with the CDMA shutdown.

- Trip

17 minutes ago, mikejeep said:

The primary reference I use shows the EARFCNs you submitted as AWS-3.. but doing more searches, I'm finding conflicting info elsewhere. This is the first time I can recall having an issue with my reference -- if you have a good source, please send me a message!

B66 is a superset of B4 (AWS-1 only), which contains both AWS-1 and AWS-3 spectrum.  So downlink spectrum below 2155 MHz is AWS-1 while downlink spectrum above 2155 MHz is AWS-3.  It looks like SCP just assumes that B66 = AWS-3, and that's not correct, only a certain range of EARFCNs are actually AWS-3.  66886 looks like the dividing line.

EDIT:  But it occurs to me that someone could own the top 15x15 of AWS-1 and the bottom 5x5 of AWS-3, and then set up a 20x20 in B66 that technically has an EARFCN centered in AWS-1 but is actually AWS-3 since it covers AWS-3 spectrum.  Not really sure there's a good way out of that, were it to come up.  (I, personally, had no problem with it just saying "AWS" as it did previously.)

17 minutes ago, mikejeep said:

It's throwing an unusual error claiming another process is trying to update the SCP screen.. which is obviously not true, but something is wrong of course. I saw that occasionally in my very early dual SIM testing, but have not been able to replicate it in quite some time. I only have that crash logged 2-3 times from devices that are not yours. I will be investigating, but it's definitely related to dual-SIM. If you try disabling that option, do the crashes stop?

So, wait, is dual SIM enabled by default?  Considering most devices do not support dual SIM, maybe it should be disabled by default?

In any event, for me, dual SIM is grayed out, as my e5 Play runs Android 8.  See here:  https://imgur.com/a/BefJJEo

Note that I couldn't get SCP to stay open without putting my phone in Airplane Mode.  Even after rebooting, it just kept crashing over and over otherwise.

- Trip

Mike,

I've upgraded a subset of my devices to the latest beta.  I sent you diagnostics on two separate issues this morning.

1) Less serious, but on at at least two devices, I'm seeing "LTE AWS-3" on GCIs that clearly have EARFCN values placing them in AWS-1.  Whatever EARFCN-checking code is in place is clearly not working correctly.

2) Far more serious, the e5 Play I upgraded (I have several) crashes all the time with this build.  The Pixel 3a and the Moto One 5G Ace each crashed once and then stayed running consistently for the rest of this morning's shopping, but the e5 Play crashes any time it changes status.  So, going from signal to no signal, or vice versa.  So, amusingly, hitting the "Reset Connection" button proceeds to immediately crash SCP as soon as Airplane Mode kicks in.  And after doing that as a test, I couldn't get SCP to reopen without immediately crashing again until I rebooted the device.  I tried to send some diagnostics but I'm not sure whether they went through or, if they did, whether or not there will be anything useful in them.

Let me know if there's anything more I can do to help track down that particular issue. 

- Trip

As best I can tell, the site chamb is referring to is using all new gear.  The GCI pattern is the same as the 600/700 values on that site.

I've got one just like it down in Buckingham County, VA, a site that had T-Mobile on it prior to the merger.  Same story, the GCI pattern is that of the 600/700 T-Mobile gear and not that of the retired Shentel gear.

https://imgur.com/a/gm5qTaa

They may be doing it to make sure the licenses remain valid pending sale.

- Trip

7 hours ago, RAvirani said:

If you’re only using a single SIM, it’s really just that line moving into the signal info block…although I suppose it’s easier to read when it’s at the top. 

It is. If I'm barrelling down the highway and glance over, I can check both timestamps at once if they're together at the top.  If they're scattered into random places along the way, not so much.

- Trip

5 hours ago, mikejeep said:

I may leave the existing timestamp option in place, and add a new option to display the timestamp returned by cell on each "cell block".

This please, for people who aren't using dual SIM devices.

- Trip

Mike,

I'm holding off on updating per your previous suggestion about potential breakage from the dual SIM support changes.  I'm returning from my next trip out of town on Sunday and should then be home for the next two weekends, so I'll plan to upgrade my devices once I return.

Thanks so much in advance for the auto-reset functionality.  I had assumed it would only work for devices with root access, which is all but two of my regular devices as of right now. 

The issue, for what it's worth, is that I have band-locked phones on T-Mobile, and sometimes when the connection is lost on a particular band, it takes a few minutes before it comes back.  It must stop scanning to save power or something.  Resetting the connection can bring it back if the signal is present when the reset occurs.

EDIT: Separately, I just sent a donation your way.  Thanks, as always, for all you do!

- Trip

I personally use SQLiteStudio.  Got it open right now, trying to rush through data from a trip on Tuesday before I go out of town again tomorrow morning.  I have 48,000 rows in sites_lte and 5,000 in sites_nr, most (not all) of which have proper labels on them.

- Trip

6 hours ago, RAvirani said:

Alternate idea—maybe gradients could be added? USCC is really red/blue and Dish is really green/purple. That could be a good-looking and functional solution…

Is Dish really green/purple?  I know Genesis is, but aren't they going to be selling their service to the general public under the Boost Unlimited brand, which appears to share the orange theme of Boost Mobile?

- Trip

Green is used for US Cellular because its blue color is a very similar blue to AT&T.  What about an orange color like Boost Mobile uses?

- Trip

I have mine set to 2 seconds across all of my devices.  Of course, my devices also have Tower Collector and Cell Mapper running at the same time as SCP...

- Trip

T-Mobile, historically, built out tower sites to fill the map rather than serve people.  In one case, they actually built a tower in the middle of nowhere, an island of service surrounded by miles of "no service" which, of course, was greatly exaggerated on the map.  Today, that tower has B41 on it to serve a bunch of forest land.

As best I can tell, that strategy has changed now, at least here in Virginia.  I think they're building out easiest sites first; trying to get as much online as fast as they can.

- Trip

42 minutes ago, dkyeager said:

I will give you an update on my phones with these details and Android version. SCP settings should all be the same but will verify first.

I have 10 phones (9 of them solely for logging purposes) and all of them show me the notification when it starts and again when it finishes, and then leaves a notification in place until I dismiss it.

58 minutes ago, mikejeep said:

That is already in the future plans, stay tuned..

Oh dear.  That sounds ominous.

- Trip

Oof.  Stay safe!

We dodged the bullet in the DC area.  It rained but the high wind dried the roads before they froze.

- Trip

1 hour ago, mikejeep said:

Android no longer allows apps to fire off dialer codes, but if I can figure out the app package names and associated intents, I can work with that. This is a long shot, but if you happen to know them, feel free to share or send me a PM. I'll check my Galaxy A32 and see if it has those menus also.

I know it's Service Mode RIL, which appears to be something like:  com.sec.android.RilServiceModeApp

No idea beyond that.

(*#73# I had to enable manually with the steps found in the link in the S22 thread.  *#2263# works by default on T-Mobile, and is just a submenu of *#73# so I generally just use *#73#)

- Trip

I love the idea of the action button, though most of the actions don't work on my S21FE or aren't particularly helpful.  I'm wondering if it would be possible for it to open the *#2263# or *#73# menu. 

- Trip

47 minutes ago, mikejeep said:

Haha yes it was.. but that's ok! I should've handled that scenario, it just never crossed my mind that a "Back to the Future" situation might come up.. 😁

 

Nice catches. I try testing all the possible scenarios and handle them gracefully, but it's tricky to plan for everything (see above). Did you happen to send a diagnostic when you got the funky error message? If you can make it happen again, that would help me identify exactly what I need to catch.

 

Yes, this is something I know needs to be improved. I have it display the toast message that it's connecting to the server to let users know something is happening, because that was the quickest implementation I could get working. My goal is to display the login dialog box first, then some sort of animation placeholder while the network connection is working.

The annoying thing is that I'd been sending him databases with that column removed, and forgot to do it last time I sent it because I was in a rush.  Naturally, that's the time it caused a problem!

I just tried to send you diagnostics but I'm not sure if it shows anything.  It's kind of sporadic on the WiFi here because the modem is sitting at values around -17 dB RSRQ so it comes and goes.  But just by turning off the WiFi while I have no service here I was able to get it to fail immediately to the log-in screen with the same toast message.  Here's a screenshot:  https://imgur.com/a/5MZffuP

Understood.  The "Validating" message does help, but an app locking always creates the perception of a problem even when none exists.

- Trip

23 minutes ago, mikejeep said:

Rolling out a minor beta update right now.. will hopefully resolve issues for users who imported databases from newer versions of the app than they were running at the time.

Er, sorry.  I know this is my fault.  😅

Separately, I wanted to flag that the new log-in feature for uploading could probably use a bit of tweaking when it doesn't work properly.  I'm currently in my standard Poor Reception Area™ and I've had it prompt me to login when the connection was bad.  It even pops up a message indicating that it's an Unknown Host Exception or something along those lines.  Seems like it should just say "unable to connect" or something.

It also seems to hang the app while trying to figure that out, though I'm not sure there's much you can do there.

- Trip

I've been locking my S21FE to n25 for several weeks now.  Granted, I did the steps in the S22 thread to unlock the bands that the phone supported but weren't enabled...

Separately, I'm on Unlimited Freedom and got migrated to the T-Mobile billing system today.  Got the text during the day, and just now set up my account.  I have to say I liked the old Sprint interface better, but it's not a complete disaster.  Poking around to see where things are as it seems to be scattered all over the place.

- Trip

Yes!  It works for me now as well.  Just uploaded 3006 points. 

- Trip

Just tried again.

- Trip

Still no luck.  Diagnostics sent.

- Trip

Still [null].  Diags sent.

- Trip

I also sent a new report a while ago.

- Trip