Danielj1981

I really didn't pay attention to the loads on Verizon's LTE until Robert said something. The saturation on their network is really slowing them down. A buddy of mine has the Razr Maxx and he confirmed the same. He said it was really fast a year ago and now it has slowed down alot! He downloaded the speed test app(he didn't have it before) and he was running around 4 down and 2 up. We didn't have any speed or ping tests to compare it too from a year ago. But I remember 3 years ago when I got my first iPhone 4 on Verizon, I was getting close to 3 down and 1.5 up back then. So basically how I see it, their "enormous" subscriber base has drug their LTE network back down to just above their old 3G speeds. Which are still really decent. But to me just saying you have LTE and the other guy doesn't yet, holds little water to me. Especially when we are talking about a NV sprint LTE network that won't have the loads that Verizon and AT&T have.

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Bike week

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Adam: iPhone 5

Carrier: AT&T

Service in the office: Nope

(With the little LTE indicator on screen)

Daniel: iPhone 5

Carrier: Sprint

Service in the office: Nope

(Network vision not even here yet)

The difference.....Adam pays twice as much a month!

True story!

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Pound cake

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Never

Apple will rot before this happens.

 

 

it's already rotting :/ It's impossible to save a rotten apple unless you eat it. ROFL

Dislike lol

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Doctor peppers

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Sprint is more or less a budget choice from my perspective. It doesn't have to be as fast as Verizon or AT&T. That's OK. Every carrier should be serving a different market as it is anyway.

 

The real problem is that far too many people are subscribing to the premium services that don't need them, IMO. People on HoFo trash Sprint and T-Mobile, when they service a different target market than VZW or AT&T.

 

People just need to figure this out. That's all.

Wife and four kids....don't buy a Corvette that chews up gas(data) and the family can't fit(data limits). You want speed, pay for the speed.

Buy the Lower priced Minivan, that can fill your needs and not cost you an arm and a leg. Yea it's a little slower speed wise, but far more practical to me! :-)

(Parent)

Your post makes too much sense Fray! ;-)

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Agreed! I don't like the clock being in the center. I would rather have battery status top dead center, and the signal bars on the far right.

Just little things like that. I also would like to customize the coloring. I prefer a deep black over the blues and grays.

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Oh I know lol I had a couple android devices before jumping in the Cupertino coupe. I ran custom roms and such. I just prefer the iOS lifestyle more. There are just so many variants of the Android os that I get lost in translation. I like the iOS streamlined approach.

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Hamburger Helper

Well the rumors are existent and I would imagine it's true. There is news of iOS getting over-hauled and I would imagine, it's quite true. The only way I would ever consider an iPhone, is when it becomes open source(which I highly doubt this would even happen lol) And they change there whole system. Some what Android-like But in Apples Version. What do you think?

 

 

Apple will never go Open Source with iOS. They won't even do it with OS X. I hope they get a little more lenient with themes and skins, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Apple is Apple. Get used to it. They do strange things. People pay extra to buy their stuff. Notification Center is enough Android on iOS. If widgets come, big deal. I don't even use them being jailbroken, so why would I use them if they become official.

 

 

 

 

 

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I agree josh! The widgets lead to clutter! The concept as a whole is simplicity!

People hate(viscerally I might add) on Apples way of doing things, but in my experience iOS is a very fundamentally low maintenance environment, and I can focus more on using my phone more than working on it. The overhaul will be nice, but considering the age of the current iOS I think it holds it's on quite well after all these years.

If you want open source android is the choice. But if you want to jailbreak, do the customizations you want, yet still have a low maintenance, less headache then for me it's iOS.

I think iOS 7 will be neat and useful, but at it's core it's still iOS! And for me that's where I will stay!

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At least Verizon's "can you hear me now" guy doesn't show up at my house anymore, once a month, punch me in the stomach, snatch my Wallet and take my $300 bucks. Then threaten to come back in a month lol.

To be honest it was a little bit of a shock to leave VZW on my i4 and join Sprint with my i5 in December, however what Sprint is lacking in Network speed AT THE MOMENT, they appear to be making up for in huge strides. I was with VZW thru their LTE rollout. I waited what seemed like YEARS for 4g Speeds with them. Sprints customer service is Stellar so far! Their physical stores are far more professional. And who cares about "on average" network speeds are slower. In the grand scheme of things, (in my opinion, take that with a grain if salt lol) like the guys in the know on this site have said in multiple threads, download speeds of 25 Mbps versus 15 down there's not much you really need that extra 10 Mbps for.

After reading what these guys here had to say, I started paying attention to Ping for the first time. And I must say, there have been times when I was in Charlotte and my i5 smoked my friend Kennan's razr Maxx. On 3 occasions I can remember for fact, his download speeds were higher than mine, but my pings were in the sub forty range and his were around 180. I was able to bounce around the web far faster than he, with his "faster average DL"

In short, we were in a VZW and Sprint LTE market for both he and I, and I was able to out surf him. I have been a victim of the big red machine lol and IMO Sprints NV rollout is better, their pricing is unmatched, their customer service is leaps and bounds ahead, and I watched the NV panels go up on my home tower over the weekend so I know I made the right Choice Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anyone on anything. Just my observations, having been with both carriers in this last year.

To me....Network speed averages are just that, average speeds. The experience with Sprint as a customer is and will continue to be far better. I see nothing coming to change that.

Daniel

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According to this I am at a 61 dBm. This is a neat app! Great find!

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What apps are good for iPhone from a tower diagnostics stand point? Open signal just sucks! Lol I saw screenshots where they were showing all the connections the phone were making to towers and the decibel level of signal strength. Any input would help. Even apps for a jailbreak. As I am jail broken.

 

 

 

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Signal 2 from Planetbeing is a great app for tower connections and signal levels. It's available in Cydia.

Thank you sir! Just what I was looking for! :-) I just pulled it from the Repo.

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What apps are good for iPhone from a tower diagnostics stand point? Open signal just sucks! Lol I saw screenshots where they were showing all the connections the phone were making to towers and the decibel level of signal strength. Any input would help. Even apps for a jailbreak. As I am jail broken.

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Look at the pictures in this thread.

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2902-how-to-spot-sprint-panels-and-rrus-ericsson-style/

 

This is the type of antenna that Sprint and their vendors are deploying. Two sides with 1900mhz antennas and an 800 mhz antenna in the middle. These are capable of both FDD-LTE 1900/800 and EVDO 1900 & CDMA 1xA 1900/800.

 

Once the physical work is done, the setup is capable of broadcasting any of the supported technologies with the addition of carrier card which will enable the technology as the base stations are modular and the RRU's installed already support the frequencies.

 

Shot Answer -- additional work or testing may be needed for the 4g hardware.

So if the 3G work is done then the majority of the work is complete? Is that how I should interpret it? Then it's just a matter of when sprints schedule dictates the 4g work to start?

And i am heading over to that thread now! Thank you :-)

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Question..... Obviously I am in the ALU area, my question is....if a tower is 3G NV complete, and I am getting 2.2 Mbps up and 1.1 Mbps down, does that mean that once they install the new panels will the LTE kick in? Or is there a big difference (tower work wise) between 3G complete and 4g complete? Just curious as too how long it takes for the LTE to go live after a tower is 3G complete? If work started on 4g Tom.

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Heard someone talking about it in a store and was thinking hes bsing with his friend. Don't know 100% but you never know...

Here, here! I'm with ya! Hope it was 100% accurate. Doubt it til we see it but it definitely coming! I say December so that if SC gets it before then, then it's a win lol

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I missed going to that race because of work :/ but i hope the rumors of 4G LTE by the end of this month is true but like Darkenv2 said im going to take it with a , good sized, grain of salt.

Where are these rumors originating? Locally or online somewhere?

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Yea I'm sure by next year's race they will have it up. I hope that most of us will have it by then. Fingers crossed!

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The accepted LTE site in Columbia (I-26/I-77) is ready hardware wise, but it hasn't been "switched" on for LTE at the Columbia MSC. Waiting for both this site, and the Darlington one to be "switched' on.

And I figured Darlington would be one of the early ones in the state to go 4G, there is a racetrack there...lol can't have Sprint sponsoring the Races with no 4G lol

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I heard a rumor that upstate SC could be getting LTE by the end of this month. Taking it with a grain of salt. Any truth to the rumor or are we looking at more of a mid or late summer rollout?

Hope this is true for you guys! :-) seems we still have a ways to go down here in the Lowcountry. Haven't seen an NV equipment up or going up on the towers near me. Looking at the completed towers on the map they are all 3G. Do y'all have any NV panels up in the upstate? If y'all launch next month hope we aren't far behind in at least getting some 4G "in progress" sites down here.

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Was at the LTE site in cola last week. No LTE.

 

Stuck on the Poor Man's HTC for now.

Thanks for the update. Wonder what the deal is with that site lol :-) keep us posted.

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Anything new happening in SC? Has that one approved tower in Columbia broadcasted LTE yet? Or anything anywhere else in the state?

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I don't think it's possible to roam on Verizon LTE without hacking their network. When I force roam on Verizon on my devices here in New Mexico, it first tries to connect to Verizon eHRPD. And then it fails to authenticate and then tries EVDO-A, which does authenticate and connects to data.

 

Why doesn't it allow me to connect to VZW eHRPD? Because the eHRPD is run through VZW's LTE core. So if we cannot authenticate to eHRPD, we probably cannot to LTE either. I believe that the allowed roaming networks for eHRPD and LTE come from the SIM card and not the PRL. I believe it would take hacking VZW's network to allow it to authorize your device on to their network. Otherwise, I don't think it will happen until Sprint and VZW work out a deal, and VZW opens up their eHRPD/LTE network to Sprint devices and authorizes their SIM profile to the network.

 

 

 

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After NV and Verizon's huge user numbers have saturated their LTE network down to where they are getting Smoked by Sprint's LTE speeds, it will be Verizon wanting to strike a deal to roam onto Sprints NV towers....haha J/k dare to dream tho! :-)

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