dstar2002

So, if forced to watch a show on your phone in SD occasionally, you are going to have such a terrible experience you would leave sprint? I dont find it likely that is the straw that broke the camels back.

Now, further more, if you are not in that 5 percent, and the lessening of load means you can get SD instead of nothing, wouldn't you be very, very happy? The average person notices 2 states. Data works. Data doesn't. If this plan makes more data work vs Data doesn't work, it's done it's job.

And no, I dont call HD vs SD on a 5 inch screen legitimate. But no stream at all, that would be bs and I wouldn't support it.

So if the throttle is so slow you cant stream at all, I'll be the first to say it's garbage. I doubt that will be the case, unless it's because the sector is extremely overloaded to begin with.

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I agree, in that the 40+ down I see with my current carrier is useful at all. I do enjoy a consistent user experience in that when playing a podcast or music while driving that it keeps playing. Whereas every few miles, previously it would pause or switch to roam and never switch back unless I toggled airplane mode. Per sprint my town is complete and 3g service is upgraded on the rest of my commute.

 

In areas where my current carrier dropped the ball on lte it's only going to offer evdo - I was upset after finding that out, but zero streaming issues so I couldn't care less. In fact in places where I experienced working sprint evdo updates, sprint rocked and was amazing. Better than the horrid unstable lte they provide where I use it the most.

 

If sprint can actually achieve its goals in my area I'd come back to them in a heartbeat. As I really like Sprint and what SB has the potential to do. But currently I need my $160 to be working for me to pay it. That said I'd go tmo, if they light up their lte towers in my area as currently they are only on 2g.

 

Hopefully this post isn't taken out of context.

 

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If you dont have sprint anymore why are you posting about it at all? Not only does this entire concept effect very few, it will not always effect them anyway.

This is like going to the ATM everyday to take 20 bucks out and sometimes you get 2 10's instead of 1 20, and being pissed off about it.

You still get the same thing in the end and nothing you legitimately use is effected. This concept isn't designed to make magic LTE fairies run fiber to all the sites you personally use and make it the best network in the world overnight.

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Sadly, yes, people are doing impactful things. They are using illicit tethering as Internet connections for their whole apartments; they are downloading large files, then transferring those files to laptops; they are using video streaming as a replacement for cable, etc.

 

AJ

Yep. Exactly my point. If you are a legit phone data user, this doesn't effect you, even in the top 5% You wont even notice the throttle.

Unless someone can tell me what legitimate use item will be impacted, I am excited Sprint is doing it.

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Google maps for one is extremely slow under 768kps or so expecially navigating. Pandora, Google Music et..

 

 

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Google maps has offline mode, you can do your entire area. Navigation uses very little actual data unless you use Street view with it.

Google music and Pandora stream fine for me from this 3g only accepted tower, where my download speed check never goes over 200. Maybe it's not studio quality sound, but its better than FM sound.

So I consider both of those debunked. Anyone else doing anything truly impact full on their phone that throttling will kill you on?

Best I can come up with is video chat. So, your video chat could suffer some quality, when you are in the top 5% AND on an overloaded sector.

I'm still not seeing the end of world anarchy in all this.

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What are people doing on their phones that throttling will hurt you anyway?

No one has really answered this. What is it you do that will be unusable if you were to be in the 5 percent and on an overloaded sector, causing the throttle.

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In a cave on campus(where all my classes are) that doesn't have WiFi but does have a sprint DAS since they sponsor our campus.

 

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And in that respect, you are most likely not on an over burdened sector.  Being in the cave, on a DAS.  So you wouldnt get throttled anyway.

Satellite and traditional radio stations play whatever they want, it may not be what you want to listen to. There's also areas where you cannot get an ok station (traditional), and in the case of satellite radio it requires special equipment and a paid subscription. Some members like myself are college students without a real yearly salary paying job. Personally if I shelled out to get satellite radio I'd either have to take cash that I'm using to pay off debt or try to work 40 hours a week while taking 20 credit hours of school. Also last month I used 6.48 gigs of data, the lowest I've used since I switched to Sprint in January. I don't tether my phone, I don't torrent. I stream Pandora 4-6 hours a day. I occasionally catch up on a TV if I had to miss it for whatever reason(no cable or satellite where I'm at), and I use my phone to read articles, check emails, general stuff. It's easy to get up around 8-12 gigs a month and I'd say 60-80% of my usage is on sub par 3g at home.

I get the whole offload the network frame of mind(and I do where I can), but there's times I can't and I'm not going to not use my phone because of that.. We pay Sprint for unlimited internet for usage on our phones, if throttling people like me down occasionally helps others have a better experience for a bit that's fine by me. Unless this turns into what AT&T did to their unlimited and they cut us to mediocre 3g speeds after hitting the "average users data cap." Then and only then will I be upset, if it's a more fair limit around say 12-15 I can understand that happening when Sprint becomes the colossal power house it will be and there are millions of more Sprint customers needing the bandwidth.

 

Thanks for reading my thoughts on this, I understand its a mini novel lol.

 

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As a student, where are you 4-6 hours per day that you cant stream pandora on wifi?

People throw out these fantastic numbers of use per day, but there are only 24 hours in a day.  You cant dodge that fact.  Pandora uses around 30mb an hour based on everything I see online.  If you did 6 hours, thats 180 megs per day.  30 days of 6 hour use will get you to about 5.4 gigs, give or take.  

Thats assuming none is on wifi.  You also arent streaming movies or videos while streaming pandora.  At least one would assume.

People are acting like 5 gigs is a small amount of data.  For one person, not abusing the network through some less than ethical ways, it is a lot of data.  If a user abuses the network and their terms of service, 5 gb is nothing, as the will probably do 50+.  My point is, that for a legit user, 5gb is a lot of data to use.  You have to really try to hit that number.  The only way to really push that is if you tether legally off your phone, and all the data shows up in one pool of total monthly use.  

One thing most people could do, but dont, is set applications to only update over wifi.  That eats a lot of data per month for people.

Drivers have to go off-duty in their truck for 10 hours, by law. It's either that, or stare out the window.

So when do you sleep? You stream while you sleep?

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I'm a truck driver. LTE is my main source of Internet. Downloading purchased movies/shows, Spotify, tune in, nbc live extra, netflix, YouTube, plus browsing, email, and social media can really add up. I run a few speedtests per day, usually when my connection goes wonky just to verify a site isn't broken, and it's in fact the connection. Also, I never have, nor will I ever tether illegally. Everything is through my phone. I'm just using my phone for what it is, and what it is meant for. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of an office wifi connection for 8-10 hours a day.

You do all that while driving a truck? Impressive.

Try using your radio or satellite radio. Spotify/Pandora plays the same songs they do. Just a heads up.

I am on my phone all day, I stream music, watch a few netflix a month, do email and all the works. I am told I am glued to my phone.

I have never cracked 5 gigs.

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2 sites are 3G completed, 1 is/was legacy, and the last is 3G/4G accepted but lacking LTE integration. And its these four sites that are showing new BSL addresses.

Like Mike said, sounds like great news, work is probably happening.

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Grr double post. (hint, I'm on a overloaded 3g only site right now.....)

Basestation IDs (BID) haven't changed, the only thing that has changed is the offset addresses. Also 3G signals have dropped significantly in the last few days as well.

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If the BSL for a site you know you've connected to in the past has changed, and you didn't clear your BSL cache, then Sprint has changed the coordinates that site is broadcasting. The app only caches coordinate/address pairs, so if a site's location ever changes, the app displays the new address immediately. Sites around here broadcast offset BSLs, and during the upgrade process, many of the addresses changed slightly.

 

So.. it's a good thing--they are out there working!

 

-Mike

Like Mike said, or, you are connecting to different towers entirely. As work goes on, Towers may come on and offline sporadically, giving you new locations because it's literally a different tower. If your original ones return, thats likely the case. I saw it a lot.

How does the rest of the information stack up? Sector information change at all?

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I remember my G2 was loud after the KK update. Also I can't find anything in calls about adjusting it for loud environments like a store etc.

 

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I noticed that occasionally it could be somewhat low but that probably happens 1 in 50 calls for me personally so I figure its on the network side.

Anyone else think the ear piece volume is kinda low during calls? I was in cabelas and could hardly hear the other person on the phone but they heard me fine.

 

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I noticed that it handles loud environments well. I work at an airport and often get lots of engine noise. When I am on a call and noise comes up, the earpiece compensates very well. Best ever. But when it's quiet or just a little loud, it sucks. Wish I could turn it up when it's lower ambient noise.

I shouldn't hear my calls better next to a jet engine than I do with my TV on normal volume.

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So while flipping through channels last night I caught a bit of the 24 rebirth show. It was sprint sponsored and the phones used that I saw were m8's, including the new HK m8 I believe. Its nice to see sprint promoting a great lesser known phone and their new network in ways other than standard commercials. Did anyone else see it? I was curious if the m8 looks pretty much like that in real life, it was quite appealing.

 

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It is a sexy phone, not gonna lie.

24 always had the latest and sometimes coming soon phones for Sprint/Nextel. Can't remember which one, maybe the Evo, but one of them was shown a lot before release

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Anyone spotted any band 26 or 41? If so, where?

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Anyone spotted any band 26 or 41? If so, where?

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Same unrooted, nothing messed with at all ( my luck with rooting is me turning a evo 4g into a camp stove lol heat wise)

 

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Just got an update for the app, still works. Maybe try the new version? Is your location stuff turned on? App might want it and crashes if it can't use location services.

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Tried that once I'll try it again.

 

Edit: still force closing in me. Maybe a update will fix it.

Weird. I am unrooted, you?

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Just downloaded lte discovery app recommend by a friend and every time I try to open it it force closes, anyone else having this problem?

 

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Just tried to be sure, no issues here. Try uninstalling and re installing.

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So no framily no fun. Thanks Sprint.

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There is no solid proof that the hardware is already there and this is merely a mixer on the software side.  I have read both, and I havent seen definitive answers either way.

That being said, you essentially pay 30 bucks for headphones if the phones are equal.  They make a good product.  Sure, bose and beats are better (in my opinion), but for 30 bucks those headphones would be a pretty good deal.  I wont pay 150 for ear buds, i dont care if jesus christ himself made them.

They should of waited longer, 90 days is very palatable, but less than 30 from initial release just makes people have buyers remorse.  Too bad I guess.  Life isnt always fair.

I am going to try, because it doesnt hurt too.  I just shame all parties involved for not offering it in the first place.

Its just a different color and some headphones. Sort of like the premium version of gaming consoles that come out later on with games bundled in. They're just there to boost sales afterwards when the hype has worn off a bit. Maybe they'd let you trade up if you went into a corporate store and were nice when you explained your situation?

 

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I dont see that happening, they have no incentive to allow it.  So basically, even if all is equal and hardware is truely already "there" with the vanilla M8, I still miss out of a sick deal on some nice ear buds.  I actually would be very content with getting a coupon to buy the ear buds for 30 bucks (difference in price of mine vs this m8)