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Ting told me they will have full band support from Sprint and setup wise it is easier than WiMax setup but they currently have no phones that support it.

The only way T-Mobile and Sprint can compete is to merge and to acquire 600MHz spectrum. Otherwise they will just be killing each other. Right now, T-Mobile seems to have the upper hand, but next year Sprint will rise again. 

Actually I would say the only carrier who absolutely NEEDS it is T-Mobile. Sprint has a ton of spectrum available and now that the 800 mhz band is slowly coming online they will be able to have building penetration like verizon and AT&T. Isn't T-Mobile still stuck with 1900 mhz+?

If what the government actually wants is 4 strong carriers then what they really need to do is block AT&T and Verizon from buying up these small local carriers.

I'm not sure Sprint needs T-Mobile at this point now that it has Softbank. T-Mobile needs more spectrum before they can expand but I am not sure they can AFFORD the capex it would take to substantially expand their network. I see T-Mobile remaining a strictly urban carrier for the foreseable future. Sprint has a long road of expensive retrofitting before it can truly compete with AT&T and Verizon. 

I wonder if this nexus will be made available to Sprint MVNOs like the Moto X seems to be (republic wireless and now the MVNO I use, Ting). Any news or rumors about that?

Argggg $349 instead of $299 like it is for all other carriers.

Yup. They gotta make up for the lowered iphone prices somewhere 

What, no Hot Pockets?  Nothing goes better with high fructose corn syrup and only five percent juice than some dirty meat inside a pastry.

 

AJ

In a time of desperate hunger I ate a ham and cheese hot pocket. I'll never forget the day that plasticy, molten, unchewable ham burned my bottom lip as the sun-like cheese leaked onto my finger cuticle. I have no doubt that ham and cheese hot pockets deserve to be added to the banned chemical weapons in the Geneva Protocol. I did not finish the so-called "snack" and resorted to eating a pack of lifesavers which truly were worthy of their namesake.

Good Idea, That would be sweet. But, I don't think Sprints computer systems will allow them to be activated (thus, sold) until the release date. At least I could have sworn I heard something like this with a previous big ticket item launch.  Still, worth a try!

I didn't have a problem with this when I got my EVO3d or when a friend snagged an HTC One a day early through a Costco store.

Congrats on the new position and move to a new place! 

Well they will be up for resale....by Sprint

 

Well, yeah. Since I generally only buy used phones this makes my future market crappier. Even more so since Sprint phones usually have the lowest resale value.

It is too bad that this requires giving the phone back to Sprint. I would have loved to see 1 year old phones constantly on the market for resale.

The real gas guzzler is the 5", IPS, backlit LCD panel running at 1080 x 1920. Ain't so software that can reduce that power consumption!

Actually there is! According to Arstechnica (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/lgs-g2-smartphone-gets-caught-living-in-the-shadows-of-giants/2/ ) the LG G2 manages just fine:

"One of the more interesting additions to the G2 is a battery saving trick called "panel self refresh." PSR works by including a small amount of graphics RAM, and when the screen isn't changing, the phone will save the static image to the graphics RAM and shut down the GPU. The biggest power usage in a phone is always the display, but every little bit counts."

If you look, there are clips holding the back plate on. In one photo where the back plate is on, you can actually see one clip that is not pushed down all of the way.

 

The back plate may not supposed to be removed, but it looks like it is possible. A lot of phones' pieces will snap apart with some prying, however they are not intended to be removable. But the final version might be glued down?

 

If you look on the inside of the back plate though, the "cut" does actually look like a cut as the edges look rough (does not look rough from the other side though) who knows.

Where I work our prototypes/engineering test devices often have snap clips on the exterior casing when the final product is 100% sealed. It makes sense from a testing standpoint. 

LOL..

 

Yeah but this is sorta the same argument.  How many of us will have 800 LTE in 10 months ?  More of us will have 800 then 2500.  It would be great to have a tri-band phone but of Sprint's 60 million customers have many can actually use anything but 1900 ?  I'm in the 1/4 of Sprint customers still waiting on 1900 LTE, let alone 800.

 

We can argue those phone will around in 3 years, but I doubt that many.  More people will upgrade when there is a solid reason.  If Sprint flipped on all LTE bands today here and now - more of us would make a strong effort to change phones right away assuming more phones were tri-band. 

Well, look, I am on an EVO 3D and I am on a Sprint MVNO (Ting). I generally keep my phones for a long time. For me this makes sense as I am in a large metro area and I feel very confident that all 3 bands will be active in the next year or so. I just don't see the point in a phone that is cut off from the future network like my current WiMax device is. 800 LTE compatibility is super important to me as 1900 3g barely reaches into houses in my area. WiMax has very good coverage here (2500) and that big potential burst speed is what I am looking for when on the road for emails. These two combined is what will keep me on Sprint.

Is this why you didn't get a S4?

Well, it is definitely why I didn't.

https://ting.com/blog/ting-pays-out-etfs-up-to-75-per-line/

Effective today, we’ll pay 25% of the ETF paid to make the move to Ting, up to $75.

That’s up to $75 per line, to be clear. If you’re breaking out of your family plan contract to come to Ting, you can receive up to $75 per line that has an early termination fee associated with it.

Not to suggest you should do anything other than jump on this right away, but this isn’t a limited-time promotion. Rather, ETF Relief is just something we do now.

Pretty good deal for anyone considering moving to Ting.

Actually my possible concern with the release schedule would be that it arrives too close to the potential upcoming "Nexus 5." Who knows, maybe they are scheduling it this way to give the iPhone time to sell a bunch since Sprint does have that $billions in contract orders to Apple to fulfill.

Anyway, I'm on a MVNO so I'd be happy to buy a used G2 in a few months but I would LOVE to buy a Nexus off contract directly from Google. For me it comes down to the price mostly but a new non scuffed phone would be nice.

As an aside, does anyone know of any upcoming Google events that would announce this phone if it was a new Nexus device?

S4GRU members as simpsons characters? This thread was MADE for me!

MAW LOOKIT THIS HERE THREAD BOUT ME

GSM Arena has battery test results up and it looks really quite impressive:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-battery-tests-are-done-here-are-the-results/

Still waiting on Anandtech to back these results up a bit more but it looks good.

Phonearena.com's review of the device: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G2-Review_id3404

 

 

FWIW, they've been talking about they only had a non-US model since the announcement, I didn't see in the article whether it was a domestic carrier model or the one LG gave them.

Not to insult you at all zippychance but wow. That is one of the most boilerplate and rushed reviews I have ever seen. Phonearena should be completely ashamed of the battery section

"Battery

How is the G2's beefy 3000 mAh battery handling this enormous display? Quite well, actually. The phone can easily last you through a full working day of heavy usage, or about a couple of days of moderate usage. Sure, the device might has some extra thickness to it, but we'd prefer this over a thinner profile, if it means better battery life... especially when the added thickness doesn't make the smartphone more difficult or unpleasant to hold." 

I mean, good lord, I could have written that without ever seeing the phone! I guess we will have to wait for TheVerge/Engadget for the review and Anandtech for technical battery stats,

https://ting.com/blog/where-do-ting-customers-come-from/

Really interesting blog post about where Ting customers come from:

30% Verizon

28% Sprint 

21% AT&T 

12% T-Mobile

9% Other

Well considering how many shares he owns, today's news made him ~$800 million so I guess he shouldn't be too upset about it.

They spring forth fully formed from Dan Hesse's bald head.  But that gives Dan an enormous headache, so he can birth only a few site workers per day.

 

AJ

We've solved the problem here. Athena-like contractors for a truly Herculean task! No wonder they are running behind.

Don't you have to put a down payment everytime you buy/trade in your phone with T-Mobile's jump program?  So over a 24 month period, if you buy 2 new phones 4 times (once every 6 months), that's $200 (2 phones) x 4 = $800 extra that you add to T-Mobile if you want the latest and greatest.  T-Mobile's is better if you bring in your own phone, or if you hold off on purchasing a new phone (esssentially NOT taking advantage of early upgrades). 

 

I do agree with you that I don't want to sign contracts any more.  When one of my Sprint lines came off contract recently, I bought a Nokia 920 that I unlocked so I can try other carriers.  I'm currently using Metro PCS at the moment with that line, which is essentially T-Mobile's service but at a cheaper price.

Nope! There are currently no down payments on T-Mobile phones. Can that change in the future? sure.

Unless you went with an iPhone in which case add 300 for the phones. Also the no money down is for a limited time. And the jump plan is 10 a month per line so I don't get your math on the second set. But yes sprint's new plans aren't as competitive as I thought they where going to be after the SoftBank's purchase nor have they responded to next, edge or jump all of which have been surprisingly popular. So I hear you on that point.

The $182 price was phones + insurance. Jump includes insurance for $10/mo vs $8 for insurance so the difference is small.