cletus

I'm OK with the new $60 unlimited plan. But I would have also included a $50 3GB plan and a $40 1GB plan. And maybe there are more individual plans less than unlimited, and I'm just not aware. But I guess those lesser capped plans are not good values knowing some of the Tmo prepaid plans out there.

 

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I was hoping for $50/40/30 personally. Now I don't know what I will do because there are no lower tier options. I am on Ting and using very little data for 2 lines (mostly due to data cost on Ting tbh) but I pay only $50 for 2 lines and I have a 3rd line at AT&T with unlimited. At this point a Framily seems the best option if I was going to get one or both lines back on Sprint but now they are going to stop marketing Framily so I run the risk of getting stuck on a decreasing framily in the future and watching my bills rise.

Oh and I updated the pricing Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing

Hmm, I guess I will have to see how employer discounts are applied to this.

So it is a bit more than we hoped for. Can anyone tell me why someone would do this instead of hopping on a framily plan for $45 unlimited?

I don't know how they'll actually work this out if you've got some devices on your account that weren't purchased at a discount (i.e. you bought them on ebay or wherever) and some that were purchased at a discount, but I'm virtually positive that the $15 per line per month fee is (a) only applicable when using Easy Pay and ( is only waived for new customers.  If you see something that suggests otherwise, please paste it.  To be honest, I think they've done a fairly terrible job in presenting all the recent plans, though that may likely be because they really are only being aimed at new customers.

You are correct so I adjusted it again. Honestly the fact that I had to make a spreadsheet says it all really. 

yeah, should definitely add the $40 per line fee as I would think a great many customers probably bought their phones under discounted pricing and wouldn't realize that this new plan offering is of no benefit to them.

 

and really, given that existing customers are only entitled to 4 lines of service with the promotional price ($160/month for 20GB shared data and 4 devices purchased with "Sprint Easy Pay") this is going to prove to be a severely costly option, both in terms of price and sacrificed monthly data.

So the difficulty there is the listed pricing makes this wonky. If you get a device on Easy Pay you get the line fee waived above 20 GB.. If you get a "Discounted Phone" you pay 40 flat. I generally buy my phones so how much easy pay phones cost is a little beyond my knowledge.

is it correct that this new Family Share Pack is really only a good option for new customers and existing customers who purchased their phones outright?  under my grandfathered-in plan, I'm currently paying $210/month before discounts and taxes for 4 smartphones on my account with 1,500 shared minutes and unlimited data.  by my estimate, if I were to switch to the Family Share Pack with 20GB of shared data, my monthly total before discounts and taxes would jump to $260/month.  am I missing something? 

Well, it would be $100 for data, and for 4 lines with subsidy it would add $160 per line for a total of $260. Sounds right to me. Maybe I should add that option to my spreadsheet actually.

How so? A single line on Framily with unlimited data is $75.

Yeah but who honestly joins a Framily plan alone? I meant in comparison to a 7+ person Framily of which there are tons to choose from on /r/sprintframily and other places.

Heh, someone shared my link with a LOT of people. I didn't realize my profile had some public information so I took it down and put it on my junkmail account. Feel free to share it with whoever https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing 

A PM would have been nice though 

Edit: ahh found it on howardforums. At least he agreed to update the link.

I am interested if the individual plans are employee discountable I guess. If it is $50 unlimited that makes it worse than framily for an individual.

Anyways as far as the plans go... after putting all the numbers in a spreadsheet and really looking at it I currently see this plan as a good start but ultimately falling short. To be honest, I am not sure offering more data will necessarily be disruptive in the marketplace. I would personally rather have a 10 GB plan that undercuts T-Mobile than this plan. Why? Because I simply don't use that much data even over 3 possible lines. Hell, I have 2 lines at Ting and I use under 500 MB/month and the line left is an unlimited data line at AT&T. This plan just feels weird. You have different line fees for different data amounts and then adding in bonus data per line only at certain data buckets just adds to the weirdness. At least just make the stupid line fees the same at all data packages. 

Honestly I wish they would have just done something similar to framily pricing without all the tiered weirdness. Why can't they just make it super simple for everyone? Make it like Framily where $25/line for 1 GB.. $35/line for 3 GB and $45 for unlimited but take out the clunkyness of having to find Framily IDs online or post yours somewhere and hope people join. Add $25 bucks for a phone subsidy. Hell, even add $5 per line if that is too low. I'd pay that.

I get the additional value from this promotion but it feels like a TWC/Comcast/AT&T promotion that lasts a few months and then slams fees into your various orifices. Just check out the pricing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing

and compare new vs existing customers. I'm sure people with 4 or 5 lines will really love it when their bill goes up $60 or $75 bucks at the end of 2015. Blegh. Oh and current customers will pay ~$960 more for 4 lines between now and the end of 2015. I mean damn that is nearly 3 Nexus 5 phones!

I feel like this conversation veered away from CEO, Town Halls, or Family Share Pack Plan discussion about 10 pages ago. 

Waived is for 20gb and above for new customers. Extra data is 20gb only new or current.

Dang. I was hoping for more value out of the lower end plans. Okay, updated the spreadsheet to reflect pricing. Does this look correct to you? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing

The waived fee is for porting in, so that's obviously only for new customers. The extra data is for anyone.

For clarity:

For line fees are they waived at any data level? or just at 20 GB and above?

Extra data is only for 20 GB and above plans for both new and existing customers?

That promo to waive device fees requires the 20gb plan or higher. And the extra 2gb promo is only for the 20gb plan no lower or higher gb is eligable.

For new users AND existing users? If so this plan is dead to me.

BTW is my math wrong or is this plan better than framily for a single line user if they are a new customer? at the 600 MB tier with no line charge you would get 2.6 GB of data for $20? or 2 lines with 4.6 GB for $20? Granted when the waived line charge ends that would go to $45 and $70 respectively 

Someone correct me if I am misunderstanding my own spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing

/edit I mean, geez, with my 23% discount as a new customer I could get 6 GB of data over 2 lines for only $19.25?

I have not been able to find overage rates for the new plan yet? 1 cent per MB like framily?

http://www.sprint.com/landings/datashare/index.html?INTCID=AB:HERO:081814:FamilySharePack

According to the main splash page additional data is 1.5 cents per MB

Okay! I updated the spreadsheet to

1) Remove $ per GB because no one cares and it is a pain to calculate

2) Highlight the optimal pricing for existing customers

3) Added a calculation for employee pricing that I would get at Sprint (23%)

4) Turned commenting on

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing

Also, since I can't figure it out

Are the line fees waived for new customers ONLY @ 20GB and above or for all tiers?

So employer discounts to the data portion? and also this: I'm a current Sprint customer. Can I get the 2GB per device bonus data being offered?

The 2GB per device bonus data is available only to existing Sprint customers eligible to migrate to thenew Sprint Family Share Pack who select the 20GB monthly data allowance.

 makes it a pain in the dick to calculate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XehsVIj6VeE2aL7OjXu8KXei6dKL4QxArWjX7aYJx6k/edit?usp=sharing

I made a google spreadsheet for a visualization of this plan and the cost per GB differences per line and also New Vs Existing customers. Let me know if anything appears incorrect.

That made me LOL...

That comment with your avatar actually did make me laugh

Individual plans better be an improvement on this or I guess I will stay on Ting for now. 

I am super excited to hear more details on this. Hopefully I can switch back to Sprint and get my family to consider it as well.

Sprint should work on making most of its stores corporate locations. Affiliate locations are the norm in NYC and as a general rule, aren't as reliable as the corporate stores are.

Where I live the affiliate stores pawn everything they can off onto the corporate store anyways. They are happy to sign you up but any problems or questions they just tell you to go to the corporate store.

I honestly feel there are too many brick and mortar Sprint stores to begin with but maybe that is just near me. I have 3 within 5 minutes from my house.

Staff has had to edit your post.  And we already went through this in another thread earlier today.  We know you mean well in sharing info, but DO NOT copy and paste full text articles from other sites -- especially if they are behind a paywall, such as with the Wall Street Journal.  That is copyright infringement and could lead to the end of S4GRU.

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1197-s4gru-posting-guidelines-aka-the-rulez/

 

AJ

What about posting the link to google for the full article like http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SoftBank%27s+U.S.+Cellphone+Strategy+Takes+Shape

/edited because the link is broken otherwise

Well, not everyone looks to get, wants to buy or have the funds to buy a top of the line, latest handset. Which is why there is low, mid and high end levels of smartphones to be sold. This device will fill in nicely in the mid range category.

 

TS

Well, yeah, but the Moto G is like $180, The LG Optimus F7 is $250, the OnePlus one is $299, the Moto X and Nexus 5 are $349, Galaxy S4 Mini is like $400, Iphone 5C is $550. So in my eyes this phone is slightly better than the Optimus F7 and Moto G but if it is priced any higher then it runs into really stiff competition. And even at $250 the Moto G becomes a pretty attractive phone by comparison.