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The faster speeds are appreciated, though I'll be happy to see LTE mostly for the ping times since I'm currently seeing most at > 500ms. The real world applications of using my phone to quickly do something using data aren't quite there for me even with the better speeds. I'm also hoping that their network enhancement helps coverage to some point because though I have decent coverage I still find myself sitting on 2nd Street in Harrisburg or Route 30 in York without coverage at least once a week.
Well without a doubt, the 800 mhz overlay is going to fill in those gaps and should present EXCELLENT indoor coverage. As I stated above, there are quite a few NV sites upgraded, so Shentel and ALU are working on it. Since the end of the 3rd Q is at the end of this month, I expect to hear something from Shentel by then.
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Anyone have any official word from Shentel since the earnings call? I know that I have been getting faster data (averaging about 1500kbps down/200kbps up) in Harrisburg in my office (7th Street, coverage isn't great) but I am really hoping for LTE soon. Really really hoping because the promise of LTE from AT&T and Verizon are more tempting every day.
They'll be launching by the end of the 3rd quarter. Shentel has done a good job of getting needed backhaul to all of their towers I hit. To be honest, I don't really even see a need for LTE when I'm pulling down between 1.5 - 2 mb/s on 3G.
EDIT - Also, I travel between Harrisburg and the Lehigh Valley often and Shentel has done a much better job maintaining their network than Sprint. I'll be curious to compare the two once NV is completed in both areas.
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T1 backhaul would be limited to a max of 1.5 mb/s per my understanding. If you're seeing 2mbit+ speeds, it is either AAV, Microwave or Fiber backhaul. In that case, I would assume the limiting factor is carrier capacity.
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I'd be careful. If that first speed was taken at 6 AM, then it's skewed. Here in Cary, NC I get 1600 down / 300 up before 8am. 600 down / 300 up after 8am and anything from 15-200 down / 50-300 up after 11am. Make sure those were peak traffic speeds. You need to consider load in the speed tests.
While I agree, it's at least good to know it's not T1 backhaul to the site.
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After driving around this weekend I can say that Shentel wasn't kidding about its ability to put up 3-4 sites per day going forward. I saw no less than 7 total sites upgraded along 81/83/581/Carlisle Pike which were not completed just a few weeks ago. I'm looking forward to these going live. Legacy panels are still on all sites and there is no eHRPD connections yet so I'm curious when the cutover will be.
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Also, the other location I found has 2 of the larger rounded antennas per sector, more in line with what I've seen in other markets.
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This is not like any NV deployment I've ever seen. The one all the way to the right looks like the ALU curved panels I've seen in LA and Boston. However, the one all the way on the left doesn't look like any NV panel I've ever seen. Is there WiMax in this area?
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Robert, agreed on the ALU antenna on the right, that stood out to me too since ALU is doing the work for Shentel. This also IS a WiMax area and Clear is located on this tower, however, I am 99% sure their equipment is located at the bottom end of the tower not shown in the pics. They have a microwave radome as well as their tiny 2.5ghz panels located almost directly off the tower and not on a large rack. I can get pics of that as well, I'm surprised to hear you haven't seen an antenna config like that.
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Here are some pictures. Shentel is the top rung, 2 legacy panels on the inside, 2 NV panels on the outside with RRU's underneath. I'm curious about the 2 different size NV antennas on there. I'm accustomed to the style on the right, the large 800mhz capable antenna. What is the deal with the flat, much wider antenna on the left? Is the one on the left only 1900mhz capable? Is one for sending and the other for receiving? Thanks for any input on this.
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As an update, 2 towers in the Harrisburg area have been upgraded. Both are directly off of I-81, one at mile marker 72, the other near mile marker 82 at the I81/I78 split. Both towers still have legacy panels in the center and there is still no EHRPD connection. I'll post pictures tomorrow morning when it's light out. Excited to see towers start deploying, I figured it would have to be soon since Shentel reiterated on their last earnings call they were planning on launching LTE service by the end of Q3.
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This is very common when they are lifting panels and radios up. You don't want to do that with a cherry picker in most situations.
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Agreed, the panels are definitely alot bigger than they appear from the ground.
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Because there is no way in the world that Sprint is going to launch the Chicago market without LTE being at least partially deployed in the Loop. Chicago deployment is being done in clusters, starting outside and working inward. It is not a typical deployment.
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And I'm assuming this is because of the conflict between NV and legacy equipment? If they did the usual deployment people would be dropping calls across the entire market vs just in one area where the work is being done?
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1) How far away have we seen RRUs from the panels? Curious as some of the sites I've visited appear to have boxes on the tower grid itself and not mounted on the back of the panels as other confirmed LTE sites have. Will have to revisit with binoculars to confirm via cabling (making sure they are radios and not just all-weather enclosures), but I was curious if Sprint was using a standard OEM model of panels+RRUs.
2) Do any other carriers currently use RRUs? When identifying Sprint vs Tmo/ATT/Vz on a tower, are RRUs a dead-giveaway of Sprint LTE or do other carriers/technologies use them as well?
Answers might be FAQ material...
T-Mobile and AT&T currently use RRU's as well.
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Was just about to post this, theres some orange in there!
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Looks like sprint 1900 mhz panels on the bottom. Top appears to be Verizon 700mhz LTE at first glance in the middle with 2 850mhz cellular antenna's on the outside.
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Going forward this would make it even easier to absorb Metro if they so choose (not that I'm a fan of it).
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Perhaps the idiomatic phrase I used just went over your head? It's in the common vernacular, although originating from a biblical reference. Certain information is reserved for sponsors, that's all. That's why there are special sponsor forums for discussing that stuff.
Over my head? Not so much, simply dramatic and uncalled for... oh and perhaps condescending? Some personalities on this "friendly" site.
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Great. When you do that, the best place to post is in one of the sponsor forums, where the map data can be discussed in detail. Posting confidential sponsor data in this public forum would sort of be casting pearls before swine.
LOL, do you read the things you post before you post them???
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Well on a side note htc released the source code for 1.13 right after the 1.22 ota was released. It looks like htc finally released the source code for the current 1.22 software so hopefully thats a sign that the next ota is right around the corner.
Good catch!
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Why do people think updates come out as soon as they wake up. 2 it is a search for update in which you have to tell your phone to look for it starting today, and 1 week later it will be pushed out to all.
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I'm assuming this was directed at my comment... Clearly I know to check for the update manually. Thanks for your concern though.
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8/22/2012 and no update available.
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So does this mean that LTE is now live in Baltimore? The article title certainly seems to imply that?
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The new NV antennas which handle 800mhz are HUGE.
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When you look at the far reaches on the Sprint map, it almost makes you think this is mapping 800mhz holdings.
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I might put some funds into CLWR since they're nearing rock bottom once I have it on good authority that their LTE deployment isn't hitting any stumbling blocks
That takes some courage. I have mixed feelings concerning Clearwire. On one hand, I don't think Sprint can afford to lose their spectrum, but at the same time, can they come up with the funding to keep it?
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I've noticed this as well. People can't seem to wrap their minds around the idea that not all towers are upgraded. If they hadn't let users connect to these towers, users would complain. Then they do let them connect, and users complain that coverage sucks and Sprint is going to pull a WiMax on us.