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And there are a lot of sites where you believe backhaul is installed? Just curious. I was not aware of that fact.

 

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No, but I'm guessing (and I am just guessing) that work has started on a bunch of them. In many cases pulling in new fiber from a POP is not a 1 day job.

Even that is a little hard to fathom for me. When you think about the fact that backhaul orders were placed probably 13-15 months ago, and this is all we've got so far... -_-

 

Sorry to be Debbie Downer

 

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The thing is, for us a 99% complete backhaul installation looks the same as an installation that hasn't started. i guess I'm counting on a lot of work in the pipeline that's about to be completed.

I think the only way they could make the end of June deadline would be to turn on a bunch of LTE sites without the back-haul complete. That would be a bad thing image-wise since it would give the appearance that Sprint LTE was extremely slow.

I could see LTE being 50% complete in Denver Metro within 4 weeks depending on how many crews are working on fiber. The majority of the NV installs are done, (and it looks like Boulder and Highlands Ranch NV are underway).  Missing their announced goal by 2 weeks isn't bad in this business.

do microwave signal gets affected by weather?

 

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A properly engineered microwave path should be extremely resistant to rain/snow fade. Likely it would take a 100 year storm to affect it, and it would be just at few moments when the worst of the storm is directly in the path. If it does fade the signal would just drop off a cliff, it wouldn't be a gradual slow down....Edit. Actually, the error rate in the data path would climb when the signal gets close to it's threshold until whatever error correction is in use couldn't cope any more and the receiver just gives up and mutes. Much like what happens when OTA HDTV is at the limits of its coverage area.

Could someone with some inside knowledge answer a few questions?

1. What is the current status of csfb in Colorado?  Has it rolled out to the point that Spark phones are reliably getting a solid lock on LTE, or are they still mostly having to force LTE?

2. What is the projected (best guess) roll out of band 26 LTE? I'm seeing 1x800 voice at most locations now even though it isn't showing up on the maps at most locations, will band 26 LTE show up at the same time band 25 LTE shows up? When a site is NV accepted does it have all the hardware in place for band 26 LTE and it's just waiting for backhaul, or is there additional hardware to install?

I'm not asking for locations or specific towers, just general info here. Both of these questions will help me decide when to make the jump to a new phone.

Band 41 LTE is far better than WiMax. Plus, the new 8T8R antennas that are being deployed as part of NV 2.0 (likely showing up this summer in Denver) use beamforming to achieve propagation similar to PCS LTE

That's good info. I owned a Wimax phone for 2 years and probably got a useful wimax connection less than an 5 hours in two years. I'm way more excited about band 26. I'd be real happy with 10Mbps if it were consistent and reliable. 

I don't have a triband phone so cant speak from experience, but if the propagation and building penetration characteristics for band 41 LTE are similar to what they were with WiMax I wouldn't count on seeing a lot of it indoors. Wimax never made it to Louisville where I live, but at work in Denver it was really picky about where you stood in the building and how you held the phone. I assumed that was more about the band than Wimax itself.

Band 26 on the other hand should really help out. The 1x800 voice coverage really is starting to fill in the dead zones from 1900, Band 26 LTE should be able to do the same once it's rolled out.

Hi I'm new to this website and got the iPhone 5 when it first came out and have been stuck with the slow 3G ever since, my contract will be up in September and was wondering if it be good to stick with sprint or go back with AT&T? I live in Arvada and haven't been able to pick up lte at my house yet but would it be better once we get spark if we are getting it here in denve

It's hard to know your exact situatioin but by September the Sprint build out in the area should be mostly done. Your phone won't get spark, but you should have LTE. I'd say stick it out until September and see if things improve to your satisfaction.

My renewal is in July and I am basing my decision on how much things improve.

edit: Just to be clear, from everything I've read Sprint is building the most advanced network in the area and it's designed with room to grow. i totally expect to be pleasantly surprised by the coverage once the system is built out. But I've had my heart broken by Sprint a few times (remember WiMax?)...(remember the Q Phone? ) and I hope this time they make it work.

Can anyone in Denver on a stock S3 with the KitKat update post what PRL its using? I updated my S3 to the ND8 modem on CM11 and service is shotty. Need to know if I need to update my 25017 prl. I know this is off topic but I dunno any other forum I can find an S3 Denver specific prl. Sorry.

 

On topic, quick hit of single band at Mineral Light Rail tonight! So excited for the end of June. Sprint better not have made me a false promise!

 

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Sprint announced in early March HD Voice will be ready/live nationwide end of this month. I'm assuming HD voice is 1x800?

 

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Actually HD Voice is a codec and voice processing technology. It can run on any of Sprint's frequencies.  Not sure but it may use multiple mics for noise canceling. Here's Sprint's explaination:

http://support.sprint.com/support/article/FAQs_about_HD_Voice_from_Sprint/3b348589-81a4-452d-8758-cd47d7ddb952

With a picture of the sign, we'll let you slide

Kind of hard to read on the picture, but it's there.

Please only use site IDs in the Sponsor thread! Thanks!

 

But yes, that is a GMO site. 

Crap, I posted the last two items to the wrong thread. Sorry.

On the other hand, i actually got the site ID from the sign on the cabinet.

Here are a few pics of site #########*********** in Superior, right behind the Costco. As far as I can tell it's GMO site that has been upgraded but is not operational yet. Note what looks like base mounted RRUs and a GPS with a red dot. On the map it's marked as not started yet.

Got rock solid LTE in Lafayette this morning for the first time Indoors at the Bowling alley at 287 and South Boulder Road. That used to be a dead zone for Sprint 3G.

The sites are real. It will be interesting to see how fast they to to 4Glte, or 4glte and 1x800 (for voice).. Don't know about you, but I'll be watching, waiting and hoping!

Most of the sites I've seen have been live with 1x800 voice as soon as they are accepted for NV.

A little disappointing at what I'm finding along the US 36 corridor. I've been looking at a few of the "brown dot"  sites and so far can't find any hints of NV installs. Makes me think the US36 NW corridor might be the last place in Denver Metro to light up.

Soooo... I had to call customer service today after some lovely individual decided to steal my iPad. For grins, after filing the report, I asked if she had any further info regarding the LTE roll-out here. She asked me to hold for a moment while she looked it up. When she came back she read what she found; It said all towers throughout the metro area are scheduled to be 100% complete as of April 1st. She continued reading her notes which said there is a buffer of at most a month after the completion date for all cell sites to be brought online, fully transmitting LTE. It concluded by saying if at the end of April I did not see LTE then it is a device issue, as the network is scheduled to be fully operational by then.

 

Obviously, we all know the info provided by customer care needs to be taken with a grain of salt. However, because she didn't immediately know the answer and had to look it up made this info seem a bit more legit. Maybe we can get a couple guys from here (Santa, jthawks, I'm looking at you guys) to call customer care tomorrow and see if they get similar answers?

 

For the record, she was nothing but pleasant the whole time. Such an amazing job representing Sprint and setting an example of what excellent customer service should be!

Hope she was right....I just wish it were any other date but April 1st.....can't FOOL me

I'm still going with January 2016.  I've been saying that since 2012 and I have yet to be proven wrong.  

I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts you're wrong.

Where in Boulder county are you? I'm in Boulder proper and haven't seen any 1x800 at all.

I've picked up 1x800 in Lafayette, Louisville, and Longmont. I think that the current PRLs will prefer 1900 mHz first, and only switch to 800 if 1900 is marginal. You would see it mostly indoors.

I don't think Ive seen any 800 in the city of Boulder yet, but it's coming.

The day Merlin said things would begin to turn on here. Don't know how accurate it is, I think it was close to when he finally had enough.

I would take any deadline with a very large grain of salt.

I also think we are confusing the LTE turn-on with the NV build-out. As I understood it (and please correct me if I'm wrong) , the 3G NV tower sites needed to be turned on in clusters because they had issues with graceful hand-offs between NV and non NV towers. Once a cluster of NV towers were on line, then LTE could be brought up on each individual tower based on when the contractor could get the new data path (fiber or otherwise) installed.

If that is correct it explains why we are seeing a few islands of LTE instead of full clusters. 

Hey all!

 

I've been lurking for quite some time and wanted to post my first question.

I have the Note 3 and just got KitKat pushed to it.  Love that Sprint quickly pushed out an update for this phone

I'm also pumped to get LTE in Denver and very jealous of my friends that have LTE all over...

I live at 225 and 25, do I need to do anything on the phone to force it to look for LTE?  Any reports of that area getting LTE coverage?

I've been using Sensorly but my speed tests are pretty dismal and I want my first Sensorly picture on here to be a good result

-Jake

I think your phone isn't Sprint Spark capable....all the instructions to force your phone to LTE only are for Sprint Spark (triband) phones only. You shouldn't have to do anything to get LTE except the following:

(These menus are what I see on my Galaxy S3, so you may find these options in a slightly different place)

Go To:Settings>Connections>More Networks>Mobile Networks>Network Mode

Make sure it is on LTE/CDMA and not CDMA only.

That should do it.

LTE is just now showing up in very limited locations in Denver Metro. You may just not be in an LTE location yet, or your location may be Band 41 only (you need a triband device for band 41). Don't worry, band 25 LTE, (what your phone receives) will cover the entire area very soon.

Has anybody been picking up any decent 800 voice signals along the front range?

Lots of people have. My phone is on 1x800 right now in Boulder County.

Its almost the same towers they just got 1x800 accepted, but still nice

Kind of odd. The towers near me have been running 1x800 for the last month but they just showed up on the map as accepted today.,

Been lurking for awhile on here, but never posted. I am at the Pepsi Center right now and am getting lte. I have the HTC One, so it is obviously band 25. Speed tests have me at about 2.5 Mbps down and 3 up. That's inside the arena with a decent crowd. Will have to run a speed test outside the arena after the game.

 

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There will be free wifi available at Coors Field. It may not be ready by opening day, and it probably won't help outside the ballpark but it's coming. Also, there is now LTE at Pepsi center, just a few blocks away.

Dear Sprint,

As you know, Opening Day for the Rockies is fast approaching and you're probably just as excited as I am.  I was thinking it would be a great omen for the new season if you were to make the majority of the Denver Sensorly map purple with LTE coverage by opening day.  I know I asked you for something similar with the Superbowl and while I'm not blaming you specifically for that loss, I'm also not, not blaming you either.  Please make this happen so we can win the NL pennant this year.  

 

Yours Truly,

J_GAG