EarlyMon

what's a 3vo? Is that the l33t way of saying evo?

Evo 3D, coined by AndroidForums member Candyman. It's pronounced three-vo.

EL TEvo was coined by AM2 from the name LTEvo (lte evo) by drexappeal, also members there.

Sorry for the shorthand, no l33t intentions, just habits, especially after seeing EL TEvo used here.

OK, so that 800 spec on the Evo and 3vo are in the same boat - n/a??

Welcome, from a fellow newcomer to this forum.

Increased package (chip) count doesn’t go hand in hand with slim and cost savings. The future of devices to support the proposed LTE updates will be most interesting indeed.

4G, ok, but wifi on newer phones?? We leave wifi on on both a 3vo and a Shift, and empirically find no difference in battery consumption compared to managing wifi by hand. My Evo, on the other hand, had a huge difference controlling the radios by hand.

Interesting tool, many thanks for this info.

I would think that a large part of the routing difference between home and cell, other than routing itself being stochastic, is the fact that Sprint phones route through their proxy servers by default.

This looks pretty good if ideal speed is of interest, though.

Honest question: what is the interest in ideal speeds?

Except for the modem data, yes.

In NM?? Yes. Yes, I am.

I'm heading to ABQ for a granddaughter's birthday.

[hide]Hopefully, my first post in a tech area here qualifies as cromulent - http://s4gru.com/ind...dpost__p__12071

Oh, yeah -- that is shameless self-promotion, promise I won't make it a habit. [/hide]

(no hide tags -- booookay)

Does the EVO 4G LTE contain an unmentioned second Qualcomm modem so as to enable SVDO? Or does the S4 MSM8960 internally contain multiple radios, such that it can do SVDO by itself? Those are the greater questions right now.

 

AJ

I believe that it's a common myth that Qualcomm SoCs contain radios. When considering the RF that must be managed to deal with bus crosstalk within the SoC (system on (a) chip), adding raw antenna inputs and managing to that would drive costs through the roof.

According to Qualcomm, here's the modem set built-in to the S4 SoC -

Snapdragon S4 Processor MSM8960 chipset includes the industry’s only complete platform that integrates all of the world’s leading 2G, 3G and 4G mobile broadband modem technologies on a single chip. This new integrated multimode modem is based on an advanced, programmable architecture that is performance, size and power optimized for the fastest combination of modems available for:

• LTE FDD/TDD (Cat3)
  
• 3G (DC-HSPA+ Cat 24)
  
• EV-DO Rev. B
  
• 1x Advanced
  
• TD-SCDMA
  
• GSM/GPRS/EDGE
  

(and)

 

For LTE handsets, the 8960 modem enables UMTS/GSM voice and LTE data (CSFB), as well as simultaneous CDMA voice with LTE data (SVLTE).

 

(and)

 

Mobile broadband technologies are growing increasingly complex in their implementation. LTE is currently being implemented in over 40 different radio frequency bands throughout the world. To complement its wide range of modem standards supported, Qualcomm has designed the Snapdragon S4 Processor MSM8960 CHIPSET platform to address all commonly-used frequencies (from 700–2600 MHz) and bandwidths up to 20 MHz, allowing its customers to address any mobile network opportunity whether the sim- plest single frequency implementation to the most extensive multi-frequency global mode, whether 4G, 3G or 2G.

 

(and)

 

Industry’s first fully integrated 3G/4G world/multimode LTE Modem: Supports all of the world’s leading 2G, 3G and 4G LTE standards. It also includes integrated support for multiple satellite position networks (GPS and GLONASS) as well as short range radios via Bluetooth, WiFi, FM and NFC.

From http://www.qualcomm....-new-mobile-age

Note, PDF download required.

Hope this isn't redundant and is somewhat helpful.

Wouldn't the modems be shown on some diagram from the FCC filing?

The Evo 3D submission to the FCC included a full schematic, with part numbers, that was fortunately leaked - I don't know if that's happened before or since, but was hoping for it with this phone (one can always hope). If we can get a leaked schematic, then as with the 3D, we can nail the entire phone's capabilities per various semiconductor data sheets and answer a lot of questions.

Sadly, as AJ suggests and you say, we'll most likely be stuck waiting for a teardown, and those aren't always complete.

Your faith in Network Vision's potential cromulescence embiggens my spirit and enobles us all!

Hi.

So, here's the thing.

None of the above predictions are mine.

I will predict that you may enjoy my posts, they're always perfectly cromulent.

Lma0!!

I promise to do my utmost to act as BSOD repellent.

Haha - howdy!

Man, talk about calling the White House and the President answers the phone!

Hi guys!

Buddy!

Uh - you asked the question and we all know what that means!

Glad to be seen!

Now - we need our other muchachos and muchachas.

Here comes the neighborhood. LoL

Can't let twospirits have all of the fun.

Shout out to all my other buds from AF and XDA.