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Greenbastard. It doesn't matter if it is a one time cost, it matters that it is a cost.

 

 

Also, there CAPEX spending seems to suggest sprint financial constrants are not "baloney" despite your all knowing wisdom.

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Wrong. Small cells are being hidden into street lamps and macro sites are blending in as palm trees/pine trees in many new subdivisions.

 

Cellular companies have shown that they're more than willing to abide by local rules since it's usually a one time cost to hide panels and equipment.

So, most macro sites are going up in subdivisions? I would be willing to bet you that isnt true. Most small cells I habe seen have been out side subdivisions and on city streets. So I dont know how sure you can be I am wrong. Lol

 

 

Also, every site is a coat benefit analyst, raise the cost and more marginal areas are not going to see sites. You cant get something for nothing.

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People who don't own a home would never appreciate the importance of local zoning laws. Those are the loud voices that yell NIMBY whenever property owners try to protect their neighborhood from being defiled by unscrupulous telecom operators. They will eventually grow up so I would save my breath arguing with them.

 

 

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Well, speak for yourself. I am a home owner and NIMBY drive me nuts. I dont care about your personal aesthetic sensibilities, I care about having infurstructor running to my house. Wireless cites arent ofensive to me in the slightest, it would be like saying you dont want street lights because you dont like the way they look.

 

In any case most of this stuff isnt going up in subdivisions but just out side of them or in parks and open areas with in them. So, what is the big deal?

 

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Are you serious? That is your counter argument??? That Sprint is broke and they should be given a pass because of that???

 

I just...I'm....speechless.

 

Don't blame local zoning laws for the bad management Sprint had. And please try to use better examples and well thought out arguments next time.

Hmmm.... You are not worth even talking to. I didn't blame sprint being broke on zoning laws, I simply pointed out that they face different constraints than T mobile. When you develop critical thinking skills I'll pay attention to your NIMBY complaints.

 

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Let's try to keep the argument to one response.

 

And your logic is flawed as T-Mobile is also doing a great job of hiding their small cells in light poles and fake pine trees.

 

So there goes your argument.

No It doesn't. Ill try to make it simple, they aren't the same companies facing the same constraints. T mobile and sprint may have similar number of subs but look at their balance sheets and you'll quickly see different constraints. Nice try though. Bottom line I dont want to pay because you think something looks ugly.

 

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Greenbastard

 

Because vzw can do it doesnt mean sprint can do it too, the company face entirely different constraints and advantages. Verizon has over twice the customer base that Sprint does, they can eat the extra cost you impose. In any case, go FCC.

 

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McDonalds, Starbucks, and so many businesses conduct interstate commerce, yet they follow local zoning laws. Why can't National carriers?

 

Either follow local laws or don't do business there. Simple as that.

Freeways dont, airports don't. It is called infrastructure. In fact, your property rights dont even protect you in those cases. Look, I dont want to pay more for wireless service because of your sense of Aesthetics, I think that is fair. I dont find wireless towers ugly and I dont want to pay more or have cheap service because you do. And I definitely don't want to hear from people who drive up the costs of wireless service and deploying the network complain about their wireless service. If you want to know who is to blame, look in the mirror.

 

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Federal government should butt out. Small cells and zoning laws are local government issues, not federal.

 

If Trump is as "conservative" as he claims he is (he isn't), then he should just stay out of it. If a homeowner has to follow zoning laws, then carriers should as well. Local utility companies don't get a pass, and neither should wireless carriers. Hide your panels and equipment if you want to do business there or just stay away.

Thanks for the NIMBY's point of view. I just wish you'd be consistent and not complain about bad service. Also, zoning laws are the result of government actions. If trump was a conservative he would be advocating getting rid of zoning laws.

 

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https://www.recode.net/platform/amp/2017/6/22/15853732/wireless-drone-execs-president-trump-tech-week-regulations

 

Speaking with Recode later Thursday, Marcelo Claure, the chief executive of Sprint, said that he and others in his industry had emphasized to Trump that the government must help them deploy new tools like small cells — essentially, mini cell towers that improve wireless connectivity.

 

“It takes one year to get a permit, but it takes one hour to install it,” said Claure, whose company has embarked on a nationwide campaign to deploy such devices. “We heard him say loud and clear we have to fix this.”

They do. Regulations and NIMBYs kill wireless infurstructor.

 

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This too!

 

https://twitter.com/guengott68/status/875430220509007872

He might have to start investing in magenta clothing soon.

 

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I cracked the screen on my tablet.

 

 

AJ

Find someone that still works on those is going to be tough.

 

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In other forums I've told Sprint customers if you haven't already switched to an unlimited plan you better do it now while it's still available. I foresee it vanishing not long after the merger.

I dont think it will.

 

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It's unclear how much is really happening network-wise. When I look at the excellent maps here and see changes, that's encouraging, but it's a bit painful honestly to see how many areas still have 3G towers or no 800 MHz/2.5 GHz deployed. This isn't a short term fix. A tremendous amount of work remains to be done.

 

Magic Boxes aren't shipping until late summer per the status page. (https://www.sprint.com/content/Sprint/sprint_com/us/en/shop/services/magic-box/status.html)

 

The AIRAVE 3 has yet to be officially announced, and I'm sure it will help substantially once deployed.

 

Combine that with Marcelo's CapEx remarks that seem at odds with what's actually happening.

 

It almost seems like this MIMO press release was designed to counter the PC Mag Results, even if Günther's trip there was planned well ahead of time.

 

It just feels a bit stalled out. I can't describe it.

I agree. I have yet to see any movement on small cell deployment and stoped getting b41 coverage in places I use to get it. Further, I have seen no 3xca anywhere in my area. It is extremely frustrating to see pieces like this given the rhetoric that has come out of marcelo's mouth.

 

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Redspark

 

I suspect Marcelo is being disingenuous there. The state of the network and his promises suggest they do have CAPEX constraints. Further, it suggests that the "taking the cost out of the business" initiative of Marcelo has had a great deal to do with that. In fact, that project illustraights the point quite clearly. He started out saying he would reduce costs with out touching CAPEX, in fact expanding it (project cedar and ocean). That turned into, it would not impact network densification and their new small cell strategy would allow them to spend less on their network while making number 1 or 2 in most major markets. That finally turned into, we didnt do anything for a year except CA and set up a couple of trial areas for new network strategies. I frankly cant understand why Marcelo has any credibility.

 

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It's easy to forget that WiMAX was supported by some heavy hitters like Intel, Google and Comcast. Even Apple was on the path to a WiMAX iPhone.

 

Qualcomm had a competing standard, and it allegedly bribed Apple not to do it: https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/17/14303910/qualcomm-allegedly-bribed-apple-wimax-iphone-ft-complaint

 

So that's where things are.

I havent forgot that, it just doesnt have any relevance to my point. Sprint didnt have the resources to bet on wimax and invest in their core network, the result was a decade of nearly zero network expansion and a deterioration of their 3g network. If their bet had paid off the world would look different, sure. It didnt though.

 

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Obvious and true. Sprint didn't spend much of any Capex in 2016, and added 1 million+ customers.

When looking at the charts I don't see that the network performance decreased... It just flatlined.

Hopefully that means good things now as they are spending $$$ again.

 

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There product is their network. Subcriber performance lags network quality both ways. We saw this clearly after NV and the years after Hesse decided to divert CAPEX away from the core networks and plow it into Wimax.

 

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I don't see a merger with Tmo if both are thriving. Sprint always finishing 4th and struggling would make the case "let us merge or bail us out " sprint could easily decide to shut down and sell off everything and your still left with 3. I am actually not for the merger but want sprints service to get better much faster than what it is. Merger with someone looks like the only way.

They are not both thriving. Sprint hasn't turned a yearly profit in a decade and was only able to stabilize their balance sheet by starving their network again. I dont think there are many suitors for sprint because I think the market is quite clearly stating this is a three player market.

 

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When you are an infustructor company, in a dynamic industry, you have to spend money on your core product.

 

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Because not all the spectrum is contiguous and sprint devices cannot yet do non-contiguous CA. Non contiguous carriers would be mostly unused as CA devices are constantly utilizing the carriers that are CA Enabled. Side effect is decreased network performance as it switches from 8 transmit to 4 transmit antennas per TX chain at basically no useful capacity gains.

 

 

 

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Does that mean that part of Sprint large hord of spectrum is currently useless?

 

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Or why not just put the addition carriers on air and do a series of 2xca.

 

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If Neville Ray can pull this off then I would say this is amazing and the other carriers really missed out. He did say that no carrier deploys spectrum faster than Tmobile which is true. If Sprint deployed spectrum as fast as T-Mobile they would have the mobile game on lock.

The amount of Sprint spectrum that remains unemployed is really amazing, especially since sprint keeps saying that it is cheap to do and there are growing number of areas that are over burned. I think this is my peraonal pain point with Sprint. Put the spectrum on air, for the love of god.

 

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I wonder if @digiblur would be able to confirm whether Sprint's speeds actually improved around him or not. I recall him leaving a few years ago because they weren't rolling out LTE in the areas around him.

 

EDIT: He's in New Orleans.

I thought he was in baton rouge.

 

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What I really hope is that if it is a tie up with T mobile then the networks merge almost right away though a project fi type set up.

 

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They're definitely not at all trying to hide that they are wide open for discussion. I guess my biggest concern is that they not scale back the rollout of band 41 to non b41 towers as they wait for a potential suitor.

 

Given recent capex guidance, however, it would seem they plan on plowing ahead either way.

I don think they'll put there network plans on hold until they have a tie up. It is already baked in to their forward guidance, thus "baked in". After that there will be a six months to year and half delay as they coordinate network plans and close the deal.

 

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Sprint's equivalent to Nextel's pump & dump or T-Mobile's uncarrier moves? Get as many subscribers as you can as fast as you can before you merge?

What's to prevent people from getting a year's worth of free service and then move to another carrier?

Nothing. It requires you to bring your own equipment. Sprint would claim they want people to try their network and have a shot at converting them to a paying customer, but see as this "marketing effort" would likely drive up churn a year from now I think it is clearly a pump and dump scheme.

 

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