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Updating the status of the Duluth market. There is n41 deployed out in Spirit Valley, downtown, near UMD, near the Miller Hill mall, but there are still some gaps in coverage. At some point recently it was widened to 80 MHz and I've been able to get about 750 Mbps DL. UL seems to cap out at about 50 Mbps, no matter where I am in relation to any of the sites. LTE still seems to be 10 MHz B2 centered at 851 EARFCN. B71 is 5 MHz, n71 is 20 MHz, and B66 is still 10 MHz. If you're in range of n41 the network is pretty great, but it really starts to show it's dark side when you're on sites without.

@WiWavelengthAny chance you can do one of those antenna performance based on FCC filings for the iPhone 13 series? That would be amazing to see how far they've come with Qualcomm hardware and 5G!

8 hours ago, Destroyallcubes said:

What in the heck? Have never seen one of these before! Really  looks cool! Can you post the address to this site, or cross streets? I work at ATT and curious what this looks like through an internal tool for where cell sites are and has information  on them in a basic way

On Google Maps the address is 1628 Como Avenue Falcon Heights, MN.

Duluth was widened to 60 MHz n41 and I could muster about 550 peak. Quite impressive. B2 LTE is still stuck at 10 MHz, n71 is still 20 MHz, B71 is still 5 MHz. Hoping they'll start eating into that Sprint spectrum soon. They've got A block, B block, and G block. 35 MHz of potential DL spectrum but only 10 MHz on air for LTE.

On 7/14/2021 at 10:36 PM, belusnecropolis said:

Matsing ball!
 

 

AT&T has one of these permanently mounted outside of the MN state fair grounds. Seemed really impressive when I was being served off of it. Thousands of people at a music festival and I could muster 60 DL, whereas T-Mobile and Verizon outright didn't work.

6 hours ago, red_dog007 said:

Auction 110, 3.45GHz to 3.55GHz, starts October 5th.

Gonna be interesting to see how big carriers go after all the coin that was dropped on C-Band.

Does this spectrum have a referred to name?  Or will this just be referred to as C-Band once the auction is over instead of 3.45GHz?

I think it's thought of as more of an extension of CBRS and has similar power limits, auction process, etc... single bidders are limited to 40 MHz again as well.

T-Mobile has completely shut down B2 UMTS in the Duluth market but still hasn't widened PCS LTE. It's been over 2 weeks. LTE is currently at the 851 EARFCN, will be 874 once widened which is how the rural sites are. Also I can connect to 8115 EARFCN which is Sprint's A2 block on the 310-260 PLMN. n41 has been deployed at the Miller Hill Mall and the site near UMD which are both at 40 MHz. They roam on Sprint B25 in many spots of town they shouldn't be and won't roam in many spots they should be. Seems like a lot of growing pains.

Just now, RAvirani said:

Where exactly are you seeing this (what sites/counties)?

Duluth, MN or St. Louis County. Active on 4 sites at least, haven't been around town enough to check others.

In the last few days, T-Mobile shut down PCS UMTS in the Duluth, MN region. Areas on the outskirts of town have been widened to 15 MHz using EARFCN 874 (formerly 851 when 10 MHz). This becomes their first wideband LTE channel in the area. The other thing I noticed is they’re broadcasting LTE on EARFCN 1150, which is C block C4 and C5 and belong to Nsight / Cellcom. C3 remains untouched. This block of spectrum has never been deployed in the region as Nsight does not offer native coverage here. I can’t find any evidence of a lease agreement or sale to T-Mobile. Does anyone know how / why T-Mobile is using this spectrum?

 

Time to change the name to T5GRU and re-direct all S4GRU traffic to the site? 😄

6 minutes ago, mdob07 said:

I wonder if this virus pandemic will delay the DoD rebanding in AWS-3. Target completion to clear the J-block uplink was April 30th 2020. Currently still relegated to to downlink only for J-block AWS within about 50 miles of Ft Knox. 

Do you have a source where we can view it for all areas? I wanna know H+I in mine. 😃

Anyone have any updated info on Day 0 actions? Will Sprint customers be on T-Mobile's network through MOCN tomorrow morning?

On 3/22/2020 at 8:57 PM, mdob07 said:

I've seen the 5G indicator whenever a site has "Support" for the UPPERLAYER_IND_R15 field in the Service Mode screen.

Upperlayer indicator is what both T-Mobile and AT&T are using with their 5G rollouts. It allows them to show the 5G icon even if you aren't necessarily connected. A fun infographic if you're curious.

 

5G icon scenarios

In case anyone was curious, iOS 13.4 enabled EVS-SWB to iPhones. How far back that goes I'm not sure, but iPhone 11 series and Xs for sure. I know that EVS support in general goes back to the iPhone 8.

DSS requires a 10x10 MHz channel, so it will be 5x5 NR and 5x5 UMTS until the UMTS shutdown in 2022. Who knows if they'll bother to deploy DSS at that point, with 2 5G iPhone releases happening by that point.

iPhone Xs and up if B71 is a concern, if your area has B12 then anything back to the 6s. Samsung S6 and newer are compatible with B12, and anything S8 and newer is able to be swapped to T-Mobile firmware via a software update. S9 and newer for B71. Everything back to the OG Pixel for B12, and Pixel 3 for B71.

On 2/12/2020 at 11:28 AM, Brad The Beast said:

Found this AT&T relay site. Thought it was quite interesting. https://www.google.com/maps/@46.8760889,-97.2574935,3a,31.7y,0.45h,98.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXZQozc6oKv1CbrsfHXo-CQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That's a long lines tower, unless you've seen new equipment added to it.

14 minutes ago, Brad The Beast said:

Well that's garbage but whatever. It's better than T-Mobile. 

Which part of ND do you live in? Fargo? If so they've got a boat load of spectrum out that way. Pretty much identical to what we have in Duluth.

B2: 10x10 MHz

B4: 20x20 MHz

B5: 12.5x12.5 MHz

B12: 10x10 MHz

B14: 10x10 MHz

B30: 10x10 MHz

B66: 10x10 MHz

Haven't seen any evidence of 29 being deployed out that way but we've got some sites with B29.

Just now, Brad The Beast said:

Pings of 110+ to Chicago is not even remotely close to normal or acceptable. 

I agree, but that's how it is. You're at the very edge of the PGW and SGW.

On 1/26/2020 at 9:55 PM, Brad The Beast said:

Here's a test I just did. Network is clearly not congested so I don't know why I'm being deprioritized. 

First and foremost, there are 0 signs of deprioritization in that speedtest. None.

Secondly, your pings will always be high in North Dakota. Their core is in Chicago, which is about 550 miles away (I'm assuming you're in Fargo, which could be way off base). T-Mobile, Sprint, and Verizon all have a network core in Minneapolis.

Thirdly, I visited Fargo in December. AT&T's performance was nothing short of fantastic. I averaged about 75 down and 20 up across the region, with about 250 tests run, all over the place. The kicker was my ping was about 90ms on average. If/when AT&T adds a core in Minneapolis, things will change for ping performance there. I think they are opposed because they don't own any wireline infrastructure down there. Here in Duluth, my pings average about 35 ms... with a 35 ms jitter. So 70ms. Hope this helps.

Lots of cobwebs in this thread. Anyone familiar know if/when Sprint will have 41 on all macros in Duluth?

Take it from a Duluth native, heading up to Two Harbors, Gooseberry, Palisade Head, etc. Sprint is nonexistent and T-Mobile is awful as well. Super patchy and unoptimized... it will say you're connected to LTE but won't load. This happened on my iPhone XS, Galaxy S8+, and a LG G7. AT&T is really the only way to go that far north.

I am referring to this, if anyone is wondering:

 

https://twitter.com/lynnlaaa/status/1134162727168086018

Why would Sprint want to show off how awful their LTE network is in actual use? Having 1 network run at 3 Mbps which 99.99% of your customers use seems pretty embarrassing to me.

I might was thinking TMO or vzw. I'll see. Does the unlocked S9+ have B14? I can't remember

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T-Mobile is garbage in the city. Tests failed all over the place. I have them as eSIM right now. Verizon isn’t a bad option either but will cost more than AT&T and still isn’t quite as good. Yeah, the U1 S9 has B14.


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