kamiller42

I am confused by Son's latest comments. Now, after the failed merger, they say they'll invest serious money into Sprint network. Softbank has owned Sprint for 5 years. 

What happened last 5 years? Spending just enough to get by? Are they saying NOW they are serious about rebuilding Sprint?

If Charter were to buy a majority of Sprint, judging by what they have done to TimeWarner Cable, I see it as horrible.

I hope Softbank gets serious about Sprint. I often get the impression they are just trying to flip Sprint.

Anyone know the dial code to get into the service menu? I want to initiate a proximity sensor test. Hopefully will recalibrate it.

I m switching back to Sprint again later today.... Anyone suggest what phone I should get.....

 

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LG V20 for aural pleasure. 2nd screen is useful. Maybe Sprint will throw another promo on them.

S8 for a lot of everything which sadly includes the worst placed fingerprint sensor ever. And you have decided if you like the shiny, glass edges.

Check out the G6 too. 

What might make the difference on these in what specials they are offering.

Perhaps they can.  Either way, should OEM's stop developing or incorporating new technologies in their new devices to avoid rendering the perception of their older devices obsolete?

We're talking about the LG V20, not an LG G4. It was released just months ago, during a time when Sprint knew HPUE was right around the corner. I'm sure Sprint and LG have conversations about what Sprint needs in their phones.

In addition, LG advertised as the modem as "future proof."

Good to know my LG V20 with "advanced programmable modem" is already outdated. 

Can they add this functionality to the V20?

I'm in a CA market. What should the settings be to ensure 3x CA is on?

My LG V20 got it on Dec 12. Wife's Nexus 5 still doesn't have it.

Got the LG V20 on Black Friday. Sprint store was well stocked with employees, like 10 to 12. Unfortunately, I was the only one waiting. (This is in a city with about 129k pop.) Loving the phone so far. I miss the stylus of the Note, but I know I'll get more use out of the secondary display than the stylus. Do wish the primary display was OLED. Awesome audio.

My free TV came in. Debating whether to keep. I read about the RGBW on it. Enter the RGB vs RGBW debate.

Wow. Disappointing for us. I could trade in my Note 4 and get a V20 for $200 plus get $200 credit. I would love a deal like that.

Good to know. I'm waiting for mine to arrive. I might not open them. I'll just put them on Craigslist for $100 and take the best offer. I'm not a big fan of earbuds anyway.

 

I love the phone though. I came from a Note 4. Huge upgrade especially the camera.

Better camera than Note 4? That's good to know. I thought the Note 4 was a pretty good camera.

Looking at the LG V20. Sprint has a good BF deal, but I don't really need a TV. Would rather price match Verizon and throw a $200 discount on top.

Anyone know of good V20 BF deals?

 

 the 2016 Nexus do spec out typically average or slightly below.

Well. That's disappointing. With the Note 7 overpriced and the Nexus being a par to subpar performer, it's looking like I'll hang on to the Note 4 for another year. Maybe LG will surprise and bring a great V20 to Sprint. They just cut their mobile division, so that doesn't look good.

Ookla had pretty positive view on Sprint, and they said 93% of their test on Sprint were taken on LTE.

 

So take your pick which figures you trust more. Open signal seems the least reliable for Sprint users and would have probably been more apt to trust sensory more since Sprint power users contributed more consistently.

 

But at the end of the day crowdsource data(even sensory) based info always should be taken with a grain of salt.

Every crowd sourced report, e.g. OpenSignal, Sensorly, Ookla, should include a breakdown of carrier usage. Preference or lack of affects the weighting of results.

OpenSignal said their tests were the results of billions of test given by 120k users. What's the makeup of those 120k users? 50k T-Mobile users and the remaining 70k divided among the remaining 3?

There's no specific Doze setting.  It's on by default.  You can go into Settings>Battery>App Power Saving and click the detail button to set when power saving kicks in for each individual app installed.  But doze is running all the time. 

I had to turn mine on after the update. Maybe it's default if you do a factory reset.

I'm enjoying Marshmallow so far. It's an improvement over Lollipop for me. Also enjoying Good Lock. Just make sure you turn off the fingerprint lock screen before installing. Latest version may have fixed that bug. Haven't checked.

Was there a PRL update in the past week or two? My Note 4 reception has gone to crap, and it keeps dropping into roaming. Roaming... in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex. It was very rare that would happen in DFW. Now, it frequently happens, like I'm driving out in the country.

The worst part is the OS bug which ignores the roam guard setting. I have it turned off, and the phone still pops up the roam guard warning screen. Click "Don't show this again." and OK and it keeps coming back again and again.

I did a PRL Update, profile update and restarted the phone. No change.

Since I don't used Facebook at all, I hope that won't become the only way to chat with Sprint CS

Facebook messenger does not require a Facebook account.

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Sprint and T-Mobile are trading places -- in both perception and reality.  We have already seen Sprint drop to fourth, T-Mobile rise to third.  T-Mobile finally is improving its rural network beyond "2G" -- much like Sprint did twice over, first with EV-DO, then with LTE.  And in the near future what I see Sprint becoming is the "city" operator -- much like T-Mobile has been for the last several years.  Sprint is not going to engage in a massive rural buildout.  Sprint will focus its ample band 41 resources on cities, aim to be the network speed/capacity king in those cities, and try to thrive in that category.

 

AJ

You sound bearish on Sprint. Will they not pursue a rural build out because they believe what they have plus the rural carrier alliance is enough? Or, not enough resources to build metro and rural? You say TMo is building up its rural network. Is it building out too?

I'm going to monitor T-Mobile deployment up here. If the coverage and performance is adequate for our needs, we will commute all our lines to Tmo.

I know you mentioned it's a coverage issue, but it still seems strange (unsettling, awkward, etc) hearing such words from the admin of a Sprint based site. Will Sprint be able to deliver where TMo has? I never thought I would be formulating such a question. Times are a changin?

Federal, state, and local governments plan and fund highway construction.

Where do those funds come from?

You are starting to grate on me -- because now you are questioning our integrity, suggesting hypocrisy.  Silence or acquiescence does not imply approval.

I have to agree assumption is erroneous path. So why do you assume I meant silence means approval? Perhaps those in the other thread have no interest in a thread dedicated to the topic. Perhaps they are not not aware I moved the conversation to this thread. There are many logical reasons for silence, but you assume the worst.

Whitelisted and/or sponsored data is a transgression against the principles of Net Neutrality.  No bones about it.  That the FCC pussed out and failed to make it a violation -- maybe because John Legere would have thrown a hissy fit and played himself up as a victim -- does not make Music Freedom any more acceptable, any less wrong.

Saying repeatedly and maybe emphatically does not make a statement true. All your text and the quote from Chris did not provide one argument as to why or how unmetered traffic violates net neutrality.

Anyway, I will leave this here.  It is from The Verge's deputy editor Chris Ziegler, who is far more influential and important than little old anonymous you, small web site tech editor me, or anybody else at S4GRU.

If I wanted Chris' take, I would write him. I am interested in the opinions of the readers at S4GRU. No need to belittle their opinions.

At one point, I figured by reading here on S4GRU, that it was against net neutrality for T-Mobile to have streaming music not count against data. However, if no one here pro- net neutrality is going to state the same about Virgin Mobile, which I read on the other thread, then it definitely is a double standard.

And there's the problem. T-Mo had an idea; Sprint didn't. Therefore, it was bad... until it was discovered Sprint has very similar plans. Then, all went silent at S4GRU. (There were many voices against T-Mo's music service in another thread. None of them have spoken here.)

I read some of the net neutrality discussion on the other thread and found the content quite helpful.

 

So basically if I'm understanding this correctly, it is perfectly fine under net neutrality to give internet services away for free, such as music streaming, ...

Many here would say it is not acceptable. They believe giving certain content providers' data a free ride on a normally metered service breaks net neutrality. You should pay for access to all sites equally and let no one pay your toll.

I don't understand the thinking, but maybe one of net neutrality proponents can explain.

If you treat data different it doesn't matter how or who does it then net neutrality is broken. Just because the customer benifits does not change that.

 

When you start to bend the rules they can go in the other direction fast.

 

The isp job is to shuttle 1 and 0 back and forth. Net neutrality is an all or nothing game. Your neutral with the data for better or worse.

What if the data isn't treated differently but whether the customer is charged or not is? Keep in mind the customer under normal circumstances would pay for metered data. The carrier and content providers worked out a deal to deliver content for free. (If Google did that for their sites and services, that would be fantastic.)

Does such an arrangement break net neutrality?

I thought I was re-raise this topic in the hopes the S4GRU community could discuss what is and isn't violations of net neutrality.

I've been told T-Mo's offer of providing unmetered data to certain music sites is a violation. Note, T-Mo is not giving prioritized traffic to said sites. They are simply not charging for data to and from the sites.

I was told this is bad. But, what does that mean when Sprint does the same?
 

The plans include two months of free music streaming, which will not count against the data allotment of the user.

http://www.bidnessetc.com/32811-sprint-corp-brings-shared-data-to-the-prepaid-market-with-virgin-mobile/

Sprint is a net neutrality violator? No, and neither is T-Mo.

Remember the primary issue which raised accusations of net neutrality being violated involved ISP's charging a premium for special handling of Netflix traffic. Handicapping traffic and requiring a fee to remove the handicap is a violation of net neutrality. Would Sprint do such a thing?
 

Additionally, for $5 per month customers can access apps such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Pandora on an unlimited basis without that usage counting against the customer's data allotment.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprint-dumps-virgin-mobile-custom-brand-keeps-itson-technology-and-walmart/2015-01-16

Well Sprint. This is awkward.

Note: I have no problem with Sprint or T-Mo's offers because it simply controls what is metered and what isn't. It does not control what is preferred or prioritized traffic. Users are free to use any other service uninhibited.