jwang

Some AT&T markets -- Miami, Dallas, San Antonio -- and some VZW markets -- Phoenix, Cleveland, Omaha -- are going to be in that position just about forever.  Barring a technological breakthrough, regulatory shakeup, or nuclear war, AT&T and VZW are going to hold dominant 50 MHz contiguous low band spectrum positions plus huge head starts in mature network deployment and subscriber acquisition in those dual license Cellular 850 MHz markets.  All other comers are just competing for second place.

 

AJ

Is the 600mhz spectrum to change that? If S got 30~40mhz national wide to deploy.

jwang, you need to go back and edit your posts.  You cannot, for example, refer to 3 GB as "3g data."  That is not an accepted convention, and far too many readers are going to misinterpret it.  So, please fix the missing "GB" notations.

 

AJ

Good point. Thanks. I just did.

The crazy thing is, all 3 band are available at her house. I get -86dbm on Band 25, -69dbm on Band 26, and -89dbm on Band 41, though Band 41 is coming from a different site that is not as close by. Most of the time, I'm on Band 41 or Band 25. Band 26 gives me the highest speeds by far at about 20Mbps. Band 25 is about 10Mbps and Band 41 never crosses 10Mbps.

 

Not to say that's insufficient, it's very good. It's just that my speeds aren't very high on Band 41 in this area when compared to when I am in other areas on Band 41.

It's good enough to beat ATT & Tmobile in NYC if in most part of NYC can get all 3 bands and maintain this speed in building.

Most subscribers Sprint needs to retain or steal from other carriers focus on availability of service and usable data speed. At least for now is like this.

coverage is very varied by location. I can tell you that sprint does not come close to att levels of coverage in Miami. But they are talking about the equivalent for four lines on sprint not 7. You should only compare apples to apples, just got they compared 4 lines for att and big red. Sure the framily is cheaper when you have 7+ but that's not they are taking about. Also this isn't a shot at sprint but at att. They made the chart just for comparisons.

 

 

-Luis

I agree with you.

The 7 line thing for $25 per line is just a bad idea approved by the marketing company/marketing head got fired recently. Is the high-value consumer group going to save $20~40 a month by hassling their friends or relatvies?

If Sprint wants to grab those high-value customers, they don't need $25. They need an easy-to-get basic price like $40 with 3 GB data. So family plan of 3 or 4 will go down to $30 or 25 per line. Getting the $25 from framily of 4 lines. That's what they should do. It will help them to steal customers from individual plan and family less than 5.

Apparently Sprint knows the 7-line-for-$25 is not working well so they are testing the $50 for single line unlimited everything. But they still have not figured out they don't need the unlimited data to win the game. But well the idea to focus on unlimited data is also from the marketing guy who got fired. So I expect Sprint will focus on cheaper and higher data cap instead of unlimited data soon.

It's a sign that TMOBILE is getting hard time under lowered price point of AT&T plan.

That's why they throw out the deal. But it's a patch for now. It seems they want to wait and see how many new subscribers they can get under current plan with this new patch to tackle AT&T.

I don't expect Sprint to make patch like this. They should reprice the framily completely. If they do it, they should do it without needs to adjust in a year or two. The starting point of Framily plan for individual should go to $40 with 3 GB data. Then we should have options like addtional 2/5/7 GB data for $3/5/10. And unlimited data should be priced at $40 to justify the burden. The framily plan should allow user to choose share the data or strictly distribute the certain data for each user. This kind of price shall bring a lot of most-valuable subscribers to Sprint. I mean those people who use less than 2 GB a month and have stable income to buy nice phones and pay the bills. Most high-value customers will settle with the basic plan $40 plus monthly easy pay for their phones. Most of them will not even use 2 GB so that the 3 GB data is making them feel good and won't cost Sprint too much network capacity.

And you can't count on Joes on street to understand which band their phones are using. Verizon is doing right thing to market they have a network with engineers and tech workers serve customers everywhere. Look at their commercials from 5 years ago and those old sprint commercials, have to say it's so good sofybank fired the marketing company sprint used before.

It's true. Most users don't test speed every day. I don't even do that every week. What could make them upset is lack of voice signal and usable data speed like 1-2m per second. Just my opinion sprint should price data half price as Verizon and give a plan with 6 gig and a much more expensive plan of unlimited data. Those non-business users with usage like 10gig a month are not the customers current sprint should gain. They are not profitable for sprint.

Sprint should get more people off their single band phones for the spark ones.

Five guy is okay. But I won't say their burger is great.

I think the topic needs to be corrected to 2Q 2014 earnings instead of 1Q 2014.

I feel the majority of people that switch are the people that would switch right back to sprint if someone told them sprints service had greatly improved in their area. But then again, some of them are hard core data abusers and sprint won't tolerate that crap anymore.

Just make a promotion like "sign a contract with new SPRINT/TMOBILE combined company" for any top notch phone for $49 and a truly unlimited everything plan for $50, plus if you have a framily plan it will be $40 if you have 3 people or more.

Let's do the math, $1 billion can do 2,000,000 subscribers with allowance on $500/each for the low phone price. Prepare $2 billion budget to run this promotion for 12 months.

Most people will give a try right away if you give out some real deals. The hard part is how to make them feel the network is good enough to stay with for long term.

Last I remember reading on the topic of the FCC approval; it has to do with spectrum holdings. Can't site it, but I did read it on s4. Basically its been thrown down that in order to have any chance in future auctions and or merger sprint would have to let go in an agreement "spectrum". Now i'm not sure if this would be doable by lets saying T-mobile letting there 1700 go? leaving them to there 1900 / recent 700 holding? This would then allow them to later bid for 600mhz I'd assume on a equal playing field unless wheeler made a decision against that. 

 

Also the other group that would have to approve this is the DOJ... They would have a side with the FCC with what ever they decide to run with. However, they would also probably throw down the combining of the two companies as an issue, leading to a potential monopoly (even though it wouldn't).  So not sure how Son plans to counter that honestly, but the FCC seems the easier fix of the two. lol

No spectrum needs to be divested in the TMUS/S deal. The solution is to get DISH involved.

Let DISH to use Sprint/TMUS combined network to form an MNVO company owned by both DISH and combined TMUS/S. This company will provide wireless broadband including fixed-LTE for home broadband users. Assign the at least 60 spectrum into the new company then FCC can shut up.

The COMCAST/TWC deal will make the home broadband market be controlled by ATT/VZ/COMCAST after that. So FCC will have no argument if they want more competition while they want to block S and DISH to add competition in broadband market.

And if FCC block S/DISH to swallow TMUS, then they should also kill COMCAST/TWC deal and ATT/DTV deal for same reason. So ATT/DTV/COMCAST/TWC won't send letters to FCC against SOFTBANK. Then VERIZON just swallowed cincinnati bell, and FCC still needs to approve it. So Softbank won't have any major players in the industry against the deal.

But DISH is hard to sell itself. So S is playing with TMUS first to get DISH on board with lower cost.

Do they have plan to deploy 2nd B25 carrier in NYC?

How could you go anywhere with the weather NYC is getting. Its like a hurricane.

 

 

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It's not a surprise if you live in Northeast. Everybody here knows we have very rough spring with snow/rain/flood. Once that's over, the summer begins. So technically we have no spring here. Maybe only less than 10 days pretty nice between late April and mid May.

EARFCN 26315 puts the center frequency at 1877.5 DL / 1957.5 DL or right in the beginning of PCS B block.

 

 

• Block A: 1850 - 1865 and 1930 - 1945 (30 MHz) - issued by MTAs
• Block B: 1870 - 1885 and 1950 - 1965 (30 MHz) - issued by MTAs
• Block C: 1895 - 1910 and 1975 - 1990 (30 MHz, 15 MHz or 10 MHz) - issued by BTAs
• Block D: 1865 - 1870 and 1945 - 1950 (10 MHz) - issued by BTAs
• Block E: 1885 - 1890 and 1965 - 1970 (10 MHz) - issued by BTAs
• Block F: 1890 - 1895 and 1970 - 1975 (10 MHz) - issued by BTAs
• Block G: 1910 - 1915 and 1990 - 1995 (10 MHz) - issued by EAs

Also see this post for info on what spectrum was swapped. 

Thanks it's helpful.

So the 2nd carrier could be 10x10, from my understanding of your post.

5X5, I believe. Many devices on the Sprint network cannot access a B25 10x10 FDD carrier

Most of those old phones will be replaced in next 12 months. And is it less expensive for Sprint to deploy 5X5 carrier over 10X10 carrier?

Second PCS LTE carrier on PCS B block...  aka USCC spectrum. 

is the second carrier a 10x10 or 5x5?

Sprint is paying the price of not upgrading their network from 2005. They are behind the game for so many years then from 2012 they decided to catch up.

After softbank took over, they are doing pretty good job in roll-out speed. B41 roll out was delayed due to the bidding drama with Dish network. And 800 LTE roll out is picking up the speed from Feb.

Sprint needs to focus on their top markets in order to turn around the customer loss trend in 2014! And that's what they are doing now. When 800 LTE can be widely found this summer,, they can start touting the network from then.

Tmobile is not in the game. Their LTE roll out now is behind Sprint. How many people remembered that before Softbank took over last summer, Tmobile was 100 market ahead of Sprint in LTE. And we has not heard Tmobile rolled out to new market for 2 months. They are burning their cash in those ETF drama and their parent company doesn't want to commit another 15Billion for network. Without the capital, how can Tmobile increase their coverage. They said this year they will spend 4Billion but well Spring is spending 8Billion so Tmobile won't be able to get near to Sprint on coverage after 2014. The 700mhz radio may show up in Tmobile store in another 24 months.

I have verizon phone also. Well it has better coverage most of the time as I travel many places often. But I noticed from 12 months ago verizon has its data speed slow down over the time. And this year I can tell you every day I have 2 or 3 times can't refresh my browser because verizon LTE doesn't transfer the data even the signal is not too bad. And I never used over my data cap so it is not throttled. Verizon is really overrated after their network became slow and congested through 2013.

Iphone 6 will have B41 anyway. Their iphone5S for China mobile sold there has the B41 already.

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