Fraydog

Most of the T-Mobile people there would have been done the minute AT&T closed the deal. The Ex-Southwestern Bell crowd probably would not let most if not all of the T-Mobile people in. Humm would have left for Vodafone anyway.

The only smart thing DT did was extracting a high exit fee and abandoning lobbying for this when it looked like it would die, while AT&T dug in deeper out of desperation.

T-Mobile had great customer service once. It would be nice to see them return to that. I know plenty of objectors existed. They were fired.

I live in a city so I don't give a flip about rural coverage, though SMR will solve that problem.

 

VoLTE is coming, it will be fine, get used to it.

Yup.

Urban customers are the ones driving the bus. Look at the footprint of any mobile carrier NOT named Verizon.

If the US really gave a rip about rural service, they'd open up 450 for CDMA and have that be the defacto rural band for emergency use and the like. Heck do W-CDMA at 450. Maybe Qualcomm can do everyone a favor and put the good stuff in the 3GPP patent pool now that they aren't even using it that much.

Edit: Brazilian researchers are doing 450 LTE testing in rural Brazil.

http://www.rcrwireless.com/americas/20120302/carriers/brazilian-institute-tests-lte-at-450-mhz-eyes-2012-launch/

The 3GPP has 450 LTE band support as an open item. I'm hoping there's new technologies coming down the pipe to enable LTE reach other than just the low band spectrum.

I don't see it as two faced, given that Phillip the Humm was there during the AT&T, and was gone soon after. Legere wasn't around during that era where T-Mobile failed the most. He could see that capitulation as a mistake.

It would be like me judging Hesse for dumb things Gary Forsee did.

As far as the network infrastructure I refer to, some of the eNodeB's T-Mobile had would be useful. T-Mo did have some RBS 6000's and Flexi's in their system before. Now the MSC's? Completely useless. I agree there.

Would it be enough to make a dent in AT&T's cell grid? I doubt it.

 

If "network" is synonymous with spectrum, spectrum, spectrum, then, yeah, T-Mobile has a point. Otherwise, no, T-Mobile is stretching the truth almost as badly as AT&T did in trying to push through the merger.

 

AJ

Maybe.

Since it's AT&T getting slugged, I really don't care if T-Mobile is wrong. The more modern NSN and Ericsson equipment in T-Mobile's network would have been very useful for AT&T.

T-Mo's dropping the gloves on AT&T.

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/t-mobile-responding-to-atts-newspaper-ad-with-their-own-creative-responses/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sprint should go with this model, IMO.

I think Mr. Son would do something like that... If I had the choice to pay full price for a device to save over the life of a contract, guess what choice I take? The choice to pay full price.

The subsidy model is based on a house of cards, the more people know about it, the more they want to get out of that model.

Calm down digiblur lol.

Read the site policy.

Speed test posting is forbidden. I may not personally agree with that but it is what it is.

CDMA is a dying tech, guys. I don't like some aspects of that, but in the global scheme, the rural customers in the US really don't matter.

The reason its dying is Qualcomm. CDMA was (note past tense) Qualcomm's baby but now that they're making more money off LTE, they won't push CDMA any more. You may continue to see it on Qualcomm chipsets, but it won't be on chipsets by ST Ericsson, NVidia, Intel, or LTE/3GPP chipset makers.

Like all good things, it must come to an end. Please pay your respects to CDMA, but recognize a collaborative standard beats a closed one.

Also, it's not as if CDMA is going away altogether. Verizon won't go for final shutdown until 2021. That's plenty of time for future 3GPP releases to deal with the problems in LTE for rural cases.

The pongs are jumping too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDrRnJOCKZc

America Online.

 

Did Robert not get all that he could eat at the KFC buffet, feel cheated, thus return and burn the place down?

 

 

AJ

Burn all KFC's, Robert.

 

Honestly, digiblur, I find that attitude disgusting. Some of you refuse to accept that a shared resource has to be managed and that maybe, just maybe providers institute caps to manage supply and demand, not to soak your wallet.

 

You guys should find an all you can eat restaurant. Then, when closing time hits before you have pigged out enough, you should burn down the restaurant out of revenge.

 

AJ

If only people would do that to smorgasbords!!! LMAO

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it why sprint is putting lte on 99.9% of the sites to avoid what vzw did??

 

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Nexus rockin 4.2.2 using Tapatalk 2

Yes. Sprint will be able to roll out more advanced technology updates like LTE Release 10 and LTE Advanced for starters. Now if I understand correctly, most of Sprint's equipment can go to Release 10 with a software upgrade.

I can hear people complaining now with each press release. Why Hammond? Why not New York? But it has more people! Queue head shake...

 

Sent from my little Note2

There's plenty of LTE in NYC. That's the irony.

A consistent 5-12 Mbps range is amazing compared to what Sprint had there before.

IsiahL, you'll learn this stuff fast. We all had to start somewhere.

It's simple supply and demand. There's always going to be a finite supply of spectrum. With that, how do you regulate that? Simple, like the rest of the economy, you regulate that with prices.

I'm on AJ's side on this.

Here is my honest question to everyone. Why does it matter that the device does not have LTE available on BC26 or BC41? For 90% of the potential sales, LTE on BC25 is good enough.

I don't get it, especially since it's going to be a while before either of those bands are deployed.

Why? Do you want to see a pretty press release with NYC on it? Your coverage will not instantly change due to some press release.

 

Sent from my little Note2

People are conditioned to think that way because that's how the Bells and Deutsche Telekom does their rollouts. Although, to be fair, the 1900 HSPA rollout has been pretty much by tower as well.

Are there maps that show the divisions of labor between different contractors for the LTE rollouts of the other US providers anywhere on the Internet?

AT&T has really solid voice quality in my region of the country.

Am I in the outlier here? Verizon is super-compressed here. Sometimes it also cuts volume from really soft to really loud and back. I haven't really talked enough on Sprint to make a fair judgment of where they stand.

While I think many people are frustrated that Sprint has embedded SIM's, I can understand why at this point they went this route. Sprint can't afford major outages at this point, like what Verizon sustained, in building out their 4G LTE network through Network Vision.

I'd buy the One on Sprint...if Sprint ever got to putting a tower in the NIMBY little s*** towne where I abide.

The stories of Charlie being an arse are quite legendary. He'd fight anyone for a buck.

Is Sprint going to have a special "embedded SIM" version of the One?