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On 7/25/2023 at 9:22 AM, Trip said:

All they have to do is make it cheaper to do.  I'd already have one if it wasn't a full price phone and $25 or $30/mo!

- Trip

It's not a full price phone though. $400 for the Edge+ is pretty solid as that's easily a flagship. Same league as as a Galaxy S23+ but $200 cheaper at retail.

Saw 20x20 n25 in Atlanta when there Sunday/Monday. Also, 100+50 MHz n41. IIRC DFW also has 20x20 n25 now; I know I saw it on the ride up 35 somewhere, on top of 20x20 n71 at the time. Albuquerque continues to have 3CA n41+25+71.

2 hours ago, S4GRU said:

Look what I found in Port Townsend this afternoon!  n66 baby!!!  NR AWS FTW!

Not as fast as n25 or n41

Robert

 

So, that's 10x10? I recall n66 being seen in some places super early on, but the times I've checked I've seen none of it.

I doubt I'll see it here for awhile, as I figure T-Mobile would rather run 15x15 n25 and leave AWS for LTE than have at most 10x10 anywhere. But AWS NR can definitely perform well (looking at you, Dish).

Got back home last night, and my Edge+ 2023 was there. Hit 500 Mbps down indoors on an extended (10 GB) download. Have also seen 60 Mbps up when near a cell site. There are still kinks in the network, but given how much spectrum Dish has, the performance is pretty impressive. IIRC they'll aggregate 70+71+66 here when signal strength allows, so that's 20+25+10 MHz down here, 15 MHz up (no UL CA yet).

Update from Denver: the top 15x15 of PCS is n25 now. There's also 15x15 B2 still. Locking to n25-only gets me about 75/35, which isn't bad. VoNR is not yet active.

On 6/23/2023 at 5:56 PM, Dkoellerwx said:

I wondered what the second n25 carrier was that I was seeing on Cellmapper! I've yet to see it in person. Usually when I'm in town I'm on 100 n41 + 40 n41 + 20 n25. Haven't ever seen the second n25 channel. Pulled 1.2 Gbps on that configuration of SA NR in downtown Shawnee last time I was in town. Upload was around 90 Mbps. 

Yeah, I only connected to it because I forced n71+n25 only, which was significantly less shaky 9 floors up at the KC Crowne Plaza near the convention center.

So, T-Mobile actually has two n25 carriers live here. In addition to the 20x20 one mentioned earlier, they also have a 5x5 one in the G block. So you can get 35x35 FDD NR here by aggregating n71+n25+n25, which I did earlier this week.

On 6/2/2023 at 2:14 PM, red_dog007 said:

And the hotspot is no longer available.  S22 has been replaced with the Moto Edge+.  Plan was reduced from $30 to $25.  Does anyone know if this plan allows hotspot? T&C says that hotspot is allowed on allowed plans basically, but the plan doesn't mention if hotspot is available.

It does say additional devices coming soon.  Hopefully another hotspot option.  I was afraid something like this was gonna happen soon.

The Moto has n70 though, which will give you 50-150 Mbps more than the hotspot does.

Planning on cancelling my hotspot line and ordering the phone as it's got a better modem and better band support for Dish...and I've unlocked the hotspot anyway so I can use it for Boost/AT&T

Sitting in the KC convention center right now and the DAS here is still running on Sprint LTE gear. 15x15 B2 plus some B41. AT&T also has a B2 iDAS here. NR is weak enough in here that the in-building LTE network works better. There's definitely a > 1 Gbit backhaul site nearby though, as I got 800+ Mbps last night nearby, on 100+40 MHz n41 plus 20x20 n25.

The spectrum swap in Gillespie County is very much live; T-Mobile now has 20x20 contiguous PCS, as does AT&T. AT&T is running theirs as LTE, while T-Mobile is splitting theirs between B2 and n25. This is actually a net *loss* for capacity on T-Mobile short-term; they previously has 10x10+15x15 all in PCS A-F; they were running n25 on the former and B2 on the latter. Now they have two orphaned 5x5 blocks. But long-term they'll have 20x20 n25, so I guess that works.

Or T-Mobile could be planning to trade away the 5x5 PCS A-F block to VZW in exchange for either some AWS (plus moving blocks around for better continuity) or maybe 5-10 MHz paired of B12 that VZW will get from the West Central Wireless acquisition (with the remainder going to AT&T in exchange for...something).

T-Mobile in Chicago is now running the top 20x20 of PCS as n25 (including G), in addition to the usual 100+40 MHz n41. No VoNR yet but my phone is definitely camping on NR. B2 LTE appears to be 10x10.

Found mmW at the Austin airport at Gate 15. It's a bit shaky, as mmW is wont to be, but I can live with 700+ Mbps speeds while tethered. Sure beats the heck out of the free airport WiFi at this point.

5 hours ago, Trip said:

Out of curiosity:

1) What did you spend on it?

2) How were you connecting it?  Boost Rainbow SIM on a service plan, or something else?

I'm still trying to work out how to track the Dish wireless network and it's being a real pain.

- Trip

1. $350+tax, minus some Amazon gift card and credit card points that I had. Since it's unlocked, I can pop in my Boost/AT&T SIM and that one actually works fine (incl. n5 and n77).

2. Project Genesis Rainbow SIM (which normally sits in my M6 Pro). If I throw the SIM in my S22 it works on roaming; it locks to the XAA CSC there, which doesn't include and SA NR bands. Apparently I can avoid the CSC switch by doing some finagling with adb, but I don't exactly get any new info if I go that route, as I already know n71 and n66 SDL are live here from my experiences on my M6 Pro, so the only thing I gain is being able to map (which I might do in a few weeks anyway).

The Edge 2022 definitely works well enough to throw at Cellmapper at this point. You just won't be able to actually pass traffic with the rainbow SIM, it seems. Maybe once they have VoNR live here that changes.

Welp, grabbed the Moto Edge 2022 because it actually has all Dish NR bands, and while it can connect to the network and definitely sees n70 (and n71), it won't actually pass traffic, and eventually falls off the network.

I'll probably keep the phone until toward the end of the return period to see if I can get anything sorted out on it.

2 hours ago, schmidtj said:

T-Mobile - T-Mobile Supercharges 5G Standalone Uplink Speeds with Carrier Aggregation First

n25 + n41 makes a fair amount of sense for UL CA, particularly near-term, since otherwise n25 uplink would be basically unused, and right now even 10x10 n25 should provide comparable uplink capacity vs. 40-50 MHz of n41.

AT&T just did a NR UL CA field test as well, but they only hit ~120 Mbps. Narrower channels and 850 as the FD band, i guess.

On 5/2/2023 at 8:05 PM, red_dog007 said:

Any word on when Genesis will go out of beta?  I am considering getting the mobile hotspot but don't need it for another month or two.

Why would you wait for "out of beta"? The network isn't gonna magically get better by removing the label heh

Posting this connected to DishNet in Austin. n66 SDL is definitely working hear, as I'm seeing speeds above 100 Mbps. n71 is 10x10 so uploads are getting close to 30 Mbps (of course they do...I'm probably the only one on the network).

Having to SSH tunnel to my Google Fiber connection to get reliable connectivity for the normal DishNet reasons...direct connectivity is a bit shaky. Looks like sites closer to downtown don't exist yet, as I've dropped to n71 on the way back from the airport. But I'm pretty sure there's a site closer to where I live, so I'll be able to test from a stationary location later this evening.

n5 10x10 is live in ABQ but the S22 with a VZW SIM doesn't do SA, and VZW doesn't do n5 + n77 + LTE.

Reporting in from Albuquerque, a lot of the city now has n77 at 100 MHz (though I've seen 60 in some places), and there's a fair amount of CBRS live. On top of that, I got mmW downtown, with 3.4+ Gbps down and around 450 Mbps up. There's still some inconsistency, where things will drop all the way down to LTE, as n77 isn't exactly the most robust band (T-Mobile rarely drops to LTE), but enough traffic is on 5G now that the areas with LTE are fine connectivity-wise.

Another voice note: at least on the VoNR call I made earlier today, connectivity to Verizon now uses EVS, at least when there's a Pixel 7 on the other end of the call (guessing any reasonably modern phone would behave the same, since EVS has been around since at least the S20). It's nice seeing cross-carrier HD Voice working, particularly given that the extra bandwidth requirements are negligible (I think the call from earlier today was running at 13.2 kbps).

Albuquerque now has only 10x10 B2 LTE, with 15x15 thrown at n25. I'm seeing 3x CA on 80 MHz n41 + 15x15 n71 + 15x15 n25. LTE still has plenty of bandwidth, with 20x20 + 10x10 AWS and some B41.

In bigger news, I just placed a VoNR call there (forced n25-only). I'll force NR-only for the next bit and see if that's the case elsewhere in town.

Seems like Dish is slowly dialing things in in some markets; Albuquerque indoor coverage seems to be improved at 170+ Mbps down, 15 Mbps up on my Netgear.

I also saw 313-340 in Austin last night/this morning, so maybe when I'm back in a week it'll actually be live. As it stands, roaming service in Austin on T-Mobile is excellent; I hit 600 Mbps down, 100 Mbps up last night (my S22 exceeded 800 Mbps in the same spot, but 600 ain't shabby).

On 4/18/2023 at 4:30 PM, dkyeager said:

https://www.lightreading.com/5g-and-beyond/t-mobile-rumored-to-be-eying-5g-equipment-from-samsung/d/d-id/784419?

Personally preferred the Samsung equipment over Ericson in terms of performance in the Sprint days.

I definitely noticed more interesting CA combos in Samsung markets than in Ericsson ones, though I was late to that party. 25+41 (that was a thing, right?)/25+26 weren't a thing in Ericsson markets.

On 4/19/2023 at 4:09 PM, the_intern said:

Can't speak to all of these but I know for a fact that Flamingo will have a new site build live later this year. 

That'll be super helpful. If it's a tall tower running at least n71 + B12 that should go a *long* way toward filling that coverage hole.

On 4/9/2023 at 3:01 AM, mikejeep said:

I believe that Sprint had several 2-sector sites along Alligator Alley that provided coverage on the highway.. did T-Mobile take those down? Or were you elsewhere?

Were further south, I think. Shark Valley, Anhinga Trail, and down to the Flamingo visitor center.