WiWavelength

"Loose" = "lose" is an Internet pandemic.  Sad.

AJ

Are these usage figures self reported?  And are they trustworthy?  People will under/over report and cherry pick numbers to suit their agenda.

"I use only 13 GB per month" could mean that is the data I used one month, while several others months I exceeded 22 GB.

Regardless of total usage, subs who are consuming a significant majority of their data on LTEiRA partners should not be VZW subs.  That is a mismatch.

AJ

21 hours ago, RedSpark said:

The specs for these devices were finalized probably between 18-24 months ago.

Sprint publicly unveiled HPUE in Mid-December 2016 and it was certified very shortly thereafter.

When you factor in the component sourcing timeline for the production volumes that Apple needs along with the cost margins it wants to have and the device testing regimen it wants, it makes sense why HPUE isn't supported this cycle.

By the time of the public unveiling in December 2016, the Specs for the iPhone 8/X were already set in stone and nothing was going to change them. Even if Sprint was asking for HPUE behind the scenes we'll before the unveiling, it must have not been done with enough time for Apple to agree to it for this release cycle.

The same explanation could be why it doesn't support 600 MHz for T-Mobile either.

It's just Apple being Apple.

No, you are playing fast and loose (sidenote: Steve Dean, see the correct use of the word "loose") with the timeline.

Sprint and 3GPP did not hatch HPUE out of thin air in December 2016.  It was in the pipeline prior to then, a known commodity.  Apple could have planned accordingly.  LG and Samsung certainly did on handsets released months before the 2017 iPhone cohort.

The most accurate thing you said is your final statement:  "just Apple being Apple."  The iPhone historically has been a generation behind in the latest RF technology.  And until Apple settles its kerfuffle with Qualcomm or Intel gets its modem technology up to speed -- neither of which appears imminent -- iPhone will continue to be behind, even intentionally so.

AJ

2 hours ago, bretton88 said:

If you're on B13 for an LTEiRa provider, it shows as a Verizon signal, however if you have a 1x or 3G signal, it will show the local provider information for that.

That is because the CDMA2000 networks are not tied in any way to VZW.  Most LTEiRA partners already had deployed their own CDMA2000 networks.  And that is why VZW contracted with them just for LTE overlay.

AJ

Montana:

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2017/09/13/cant-hear-me-now-verizon-drops-some-rural-customers/663146001/

AJ

39 minutes ago, Mr.Nuke said:

The partner in question is Wireless Partners LLC who appear to own, build, and operate the towers Verizon is deploying their spectrum on there.

Other than the partner not marketing its own service directly to consumers, all of the above sound like standard operating procedures for VZW and LTEiRA partners.  VZW only contracts out or leases a minimum of Upper 700 MHz C block (band 13) spectrum to LTEiRA partners, while VZW retains de jure control over its spectrum licenses.

26 minutes ago, swintec said:

hhmm...as opposed to a "normal" cell set up where the carrier itself installs and manages their own equipment by leasing space from a tower company and thats it?

wonder if this set up was because it is so rural and was quicker for verizon to go this route.

Are you not familiar with the VZW LTE in Rural America program that has been in existence for most of this decade?

AJ

Could the Maine LTEiRA partner then be the one ultimately ceasing operations?  Bankruptcy, perhaps.

AJ

29 minutes ago, stealth said:

Also how do we know it doesnt support 4x4 and hpue, has any of them passed through the fcc or has anyone confirmed from sprint or apple?

Yes, FCC OET.  Trust that, after 5+ years, S4GRU staff knows what it is doing.  Apple device authorizations pop up in the FCC OET within hours of their announcement events.

AJ

I side with VZW on this one.  Perma roaming on LTEiRA partners is not okay.  Those subs should be signed up directly with the LTEiRA partners that they are using nearly 100 percent of the time.

AJ

I tend to hear gasps and screams if my dongle is external.

AJ

The only thing I'm aware of that functions below the noise floor is GPS (by design).

CDMA1X.  Ec/Io always is negative (by design).

AJ

Folks, if you are getting a negative CINR with the Magic Box, it is not going to work well, if at all.  The Magic Box is not the right solution for your situation.

AJ

Carrier to interference noise ratio.

 

In the most basic terms it's a description of the quality of a received LTE signal is. Similar to SINR. The closer to 0 cinr is, the worst the signal quality be. 

 

ie a CINR of -15 is far superior to a CINR of -2.  

No, Tim, just the opposite.  Both are negative CINR:  interference + noise exceeds carrier.  For many airlinks, including LTE, that is poor to unusable.  A 15 dB CINR, on the other hand, would be superior to a 2 dB CINR.

AJ

Hpue doesn't do much.

On the Samsung Galaxy Note 8?  Do you have one?

You and others need to stop with these unsubstantiated generalizations about HPUE -- based on one handset that may be just a mediocre band 41 performer.

AJ

My magical box shipped!

Magical Box?  You are getting a Chinese knock off.

AJ

In case anyone wanted to see me lose my mind during the total eclipse

Where is David's mind?  Where is David's mind?  WHERE IS David's mind?

AJ

Yeah, and I'm told many would be happy to see the state of Georgia just go ahead and claim Auburn as part of their state anyway, but I digress.  

Good riddance to the redneck farmers on those god forsaken Plains.  Georgia can have 'em!

AJ

Looks to be a beautiful bangel. I got a female bangel and she's a handful haha.

Susanna Hoffs?

AJ

People, this should not be a question.  Read the first post of this thread.  Calling Plus does not receive network prioritization. That has been stated from the beginning of this opt in soft launch.

AJ

That SHOULD have already been thought of and set up. If it was not, then somebody looks bad.

Yes, the somebody who looks bad is you -- for seemingly not knowing that voice QoS would mean implementing VoLTE.

Calling Plus is NOT VoLTE.

AJ

just have to get out of work for 30 minutes... heh .. 

Weather forecast for tonight: dark.  Continued dark overnight, with widely scattered light by morning.

Work: done.

AJ

My apologies to you AJ for wasting your time the time of the other members of the S4GRU staff...my only intention was to ask the members of S4GRU for their opinions and advice.

 

If you feel that my post was 'out of line' then I will gladly remove it.

Huh, what are you talking about?  My response was to Arysyn's suggestion, not your post.

AJ

Tell the retentions about your history as a long-term Sprint customer, how you are a member of the world's best Sprint enthusiast website, S4GRU...

"Ess-for-jee-wat?"

That name dropping will not get you anywhere or anything.

AJ

I had to go pick up my fiancee from work lol. Then put the kid and dog to bed.

Pfff. Excuses, excuses!

Fiancees, kids, and dogs are excuses.

Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.

AJ

I can imagine that will take a very long time

Yeah, when...

AJ