iansilv

Did something get switched on in southern OC? It seems like coverage is way better suddenly.

Are all the sites surrounding Ladera accepted? Can anyone comment on whether back haul had been done?

So what is the deal in South OC and Ladera Ranch?  Coverage seems to have gotten worse!  I cannot get LTE in any reliable capacity near my home, in the middle of Ladera Ranch, and the area is supposed to have two fully working, upgraded LTE towers right now- am I wrong, or aren't both Ladera Ranch towers now full LTE?

So... Any updates in Orange County?

 

 

I'm frequently in Newport beach and I havent had a single lte connection. What parts are you referring to?

South OC near San Juan and Ladera Ranch

I'm seeing a lot of LTE in south OC that is not mapped. It may be "flickering" though...

Watch what you say. You might reveal yourself to be an "idiot."

 

Long story short, if contributing to Sensorly and/or other crowd sourced data is important to you, do not use an iPhone. Apple is making choices regarding data gathering reportedly to protect you. If you disagree with those choices, blame Apple, not the messenger who points out those limitations.

 

AJ

I just proposed a solution to this problem so that iphone users could use sensorly to map LTE signals...

Nope, Nazi ways fits perfect for me with the several graphics I have seen people do of it. I see the relation and you see something else which is perfectly fine.

 

And this would be just for speedtests? Sheesh. Double vote of no for me. Speedtests are an absolute waste of bandwidth 99% of time. They are only useful to the folks who have to measure their "size" with their buddy in the locker room.

 

Maybe you should start your own app that would rely on inaccurate data as what you are suggesting.

 

If you want to contribute then obtain a device that allows that or just wait for your fellow market mappers to map the area for you.

 

Sent from my little Note2

You sir are an idiot. I hope your title does not mean you are a backbone to this site.

Can't there be away with jailbroken iPhones?

I think so, however- if Sensorly caters to the jailbroken crowd they might not be allowed on the app store. My solution is a work around due to the fact that there is no reporting of the network type by the iOS operating system.

For one, I'll need to confirm this but I'm sure a speed tests by Sensorly and the newly updated Speedtest app read tests differently. In fact, I nearly 100% guarantee it just for the fact that prior to the new Speedtest app update, speed recordings were just fine. Now the whole contributing thing for mapping data, thats what you should be inquiring on. Maybe Mr. Sensorly can answer why iPhones arent able to map. Personally I never asked since I've never needed to know. But changing the whole structure of sensorly just to do if ands or buts on data strength is not really a thing to take up. IMHO

I am just talking about the ability to contribute to the maps. That is all this feature is intended to address. It would actually be extremely simple to implement. Just a matter of an acknowledgement that the iphone mapping results reported must be above a certain threshold to show up and a screening of results based on that speed level and the device sending them on Sensorly's end. iPhone users cannot contribute to maps. This would change that for LTE networks which is the most important part of sensorly right now. In fact, the only reason I even have sensorly installed is o I can see the LTE network on Sprint spread out.

And whats the maximum possible 3G? youre looking to much into this buddy. Just take it for what it is and be happy with it. I for one dont rely on sensorly to tell me exactly what signal strength I'm going to have in an area. To many variables to rely on something like that.

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1869-fastest-3g-speeds-ever-seen/

So set the threshold in this small update to the iphone app to be above the highest seen here. And as I stated earlier, set Android results to "knock out" iphone results if there is a newer slower speed.

And you don't have to use it. This is just a way to get iphone users the ability to contribute.

What does speed have to do with actual signal? You could have a crowded sector but yet have excellent signal.

 

Sensorly works great on android and is a huge asset. Why screw up the data because of Apple's Nazi ways?

 

I vote no.

 

Sent from my little Note2

What? I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. Let me explain:

1. This will be an option, and a condition, added to the app that only applies to the iPhone app. This does not affect data gathering as it stands right now on the Android platform in any way.

2. This does not change, alter or lessen the quality of the data currently being collected. Again, like #1 above, this does not affect anyone currently.

3. This would ADD the ability for iphone users to contribute data. The only data that they would be able to contribute is network information on speed tests collected on LTE networks where the speeds are ABOVE what 3g is capable of. Because Sensorly can detect whether or not a test has been performed on a wifi network, and the iphone does not operate on WiMax, if a speed test reports back a speed that is greater than what 3g is capable of, the only possibility is that it came from an LTE network if this test is performed on Sprint.

If the test is LTE but not faster than 3g- the data is not reported. It is ignored on Sensorly's end. This means that no inaccurate data is collected. The benefit for Sensorly is more data collected because now iPhone users can contribute.

And BTW- "Nazi ways" compares the death of millions of Jewish men, women and children to the actions of a software company that you do not agree with. Not appropriate here, or anywhere actually.

And what exactly would that switch do ?

No- simply do this- "For iphone users- if you want to map LTE you need to check the option "disable 3G mapping" and Sensorly will only report results with the following parameters: GPS is ON, WIFI is OFF, speed is ABOVE the MAXIMUM POSSIBLE speed 3G is capable of. ONLY then will your mapping results will contribute to our networking mapping for LTE."

What's the "disable 3G mapping" option ?

A forthcoming update to your product to allow us iPhone owners to contribute mapping data to your maps for LTE networks!

I think all of that would be a mess. We should never rely on the user to report data, it should all come from the phone hardware with no user intervention.

Exactly- and there is a way to do this.

We'd mischaracterized 3G speeds and report them as higher than they really are. Lots of people still don't have 4G phones and that would provide them with false info.

 

 

Perhaps, we would just ask you what type of network the phone is connected to, that would be even easier.

No- simply do this- "For iphone users- if you want to map LTE you need to check the option "disable 3G mapping" and Sensorly will only report results with the following parameters: GPS is ON, WIFI is OFF, speed is ABOVE the MAXIMUM POSSIBLE speed 3G is capable of. ONLY then will your mapping results will contribute to our networking mapping for LTE."

Yes we have cell vs wifi. The thing is, some LTE tests are slow and we don't want to miscategorize those.

So? Let's say you exclude all tests from iPhones that are slower than maximum 3g speeds from being labeled as LTE and label them as 3g- what harm would that do? Anywhere there is LTE there is 3g.

Or- for those of us who really want to provide you with data, give us the option- "do not report tests below maximum 3g speed" and let us check that- so the Sensorly app only reports those tests that are above what 3g could be capable of carrying, that are not WIFI- BAM! The problem concerning the iPhone not being able to report LTE signals for mapping is solved- and you get a lot more data for your maps.

As long as you know that the result you are getting is not coming from a WIFI signal this problem can be solved.

Sensorly- why can't the iphone app simply label any speed tests above what 3G is capable of for the carrier selected as being LTE if the carrier is Sprint? Sprint only does 3G and LTE, the iPhone does not support WiMax, and you could Further screen results by overall market area- if someone is testing within a known market area "pioneered" by an "official" test with an android device, then it would likely be legit for LTE. Further, iphone tests could be secondary to android tests- if an android test later comes up blank or shows a weaker signal- cancel out the iphone testing- who cares?

This is all pending the idea that whether the phone is connected to wifi IS something you have access to...

Here is the speed I am getting:

For some reason it did not do well on the download- no idea. It's incredibly fast.

Boy the iphone frustrates me with it's inability to map on sensorly. Here is another shot of LTE coverage in an unmapped area:

I have an iphone so I can't map, but here is LTE in an unmapped area on Sensorly:

When service gets bad, it means work is being done and stuff is being installed. It does not mean that is an indication of how bad service will be when the upgrades are done.

Ladera Ranch LTE signal is live and strong! Hope everyone is mapping today!

I’m new to this, so excuse the question, but are you saying if I start mapping with Sensorly everyday to and from work I should see LTE possibly be activated sooner in my area? Near the Main Place Mall in Santa Ana, next to the Discovery Science Center or known as the Cube.

No- what I am saying is that if you start the continuous mapping or testing part of sensorly and just drive to and from work, you will be mapping all the spots for LTE as you get to work. You will be mapping it for everyone to see where LTE coverage is. I suppose it might be activated sooner as Sprint may see the activity and want to react towards it, who knows. But you would mostly be doing everyone a favor by mapping the LTE coverage on the sensorly maps.

Just turn on sensorly mapping every day during your commutes!