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In which case Tampa fits nicely, right?

 

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Well clearly Sprint needed capacity there since everything I've seen stated was that they targeted areas which were high in usage. Supposedly Sprint drove the areas CLWR chose.

How did I know NYC would be one of the first?

 

Based on population density? lol... Kind of obvious.

I can confirm LTE in Mt. Healthy and North College Hill this morning (I uploaded the sensorly data).  Just in time to move to colerain...

Good job on mapping. Nice to see all 3 major cities in Ohio showing some LTE. 

The backhaul argument is a good one, that kind of bandwidth must be costly. Also the GMOs won't be cheap either. And of course, this all assumes they have the revenue in the first place that SoftBank intends to use. There is a reason some markets have so many GMO sites though, and its because the justification of spend wasn't there with the other priorities on Sprint's plate.

EXACTLY.  Great Comparison.  Just take a snapshot of Shentel territory and compare it to Sprint's progress in the balance of the country. Shentel has a very high percentage of their sites upgraded with 4G and 800 mhz voice.  They are in control totally and things get done correctly and on time.  No excuses, they just do it. Shentel is more complete than the S4GRU maps are showing. So many sites are going active with 4g & 800 that it all does not get updated sometimes as quickly as it should.  Apparently inspections & paperwork get delayed.  The important thing is that the NV project has made Shentel look highly superior to anybody else and even more important is that the Central Pennsylvania, Western Md, and northern Virginia territory has service that is probably the best in the country right now.

If this is a comparison of sharp management and local control against outsourcing, Shentel wins and it ain't even close. Yes, Shentel is using contractors to do most of the site work, but they are in control and do it right and on time.

My last request of Shentel is that they're as hasty with the LTE 800 rollout.

I would love it if Sprint expanded its native corporate coverage. I'm just not convinced that's their plan yet.

 

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Well, lets think about what 16 billion will buy. NV 1.0 was around 8 bil, correct? All of these base stations can support whatever they have to throw at them. 2500 will require new antennas, RRUs, and carrier cards. Interesting aside, do you think any of the CLWR equipment will be reused? Point being, the 2500mhz rollout shouldn't take too much in terms of capital. Outside of spectrum auctions, the only thing I see taking that much cash is expansion.

 

Edit - something I didn't account for was taking care of GMO sites. Do you believe this funding to be factored into the original NV cost or will this require new investment?

I've never seen Masayoshi Son say he was going to have Sprint's footprint equal VZW or ATT. What I do recall him saying was he was going to take on the duopoly directly and compete with them. He may not even try to compete on the level of a national footprint. It all just may be his plan to spend an additional $16Billion inside the existing footprint.Robert from Note 2 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

It depends how you interpret this:

 

"If the network isn't good, customers are going to complain, Mr. Son said, adding that Sprint will seek to pull even with Verizon in high-speed coverage in about two years."

Turns out if you want a network that performs well, you need to be in control of its development. I always beleived this had a lot to do with the performance of Shentel vs Sprint

This thread seems to have turned into a referendum on the new plans as well as the competitiveness of Sprint in general; with an upgrade for me just 2 weeks away I don't really know what I'm going to do with these plan choices; like many we rarely use 450 voice minutes so why have unlimited talk time; what most of us need is cheaper data rates and honestly I just don't see cheaper data for us in the future with the vast proliferation of smart phones & tablets taking over the pc space and making video streaming on a mobile device a reality for millions of people; so for now I'll stay put on the old plans (if they will let me at upgrade time)

 

This is my biggest concern/curiousity. Please keep us updated on if they allow you to.

If I do not have an Unlimited, My Way or My All-in plan, do I have The Sprint Unlhttp://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4184-new-sprint-plansunlimited-my-way-my-all-in/page-21&do=findComment&comment=168191imited Guarantee?

No. The Everything Data and Simply Everything plans are still available and continue to offer unlimited data and to provide a premier wireless experience. However, The Sprint Unlimited Guarantee applies only to the Unlimited, My Way and My All-in plans.

 

 

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They still have the  everything Data and SImply Everything plans...

Or they could simply mean for those who already have it.

The way I see it now... I either go for the same price with VZ or AT&T or I go for value with T-Mo.

I'm curious, what arrangement of Smart and dumb phones do you have?

 

4 smartphones on an everything data plan for ~220$/month. I could get 4 smartphones on AT&T for 230$/month before a discount with 6gb.

Maybe this has been brought up and I missed it...but if some say the old plans aren't going away.  Why is it that the regular plans on the website are gone?  Then the craziest thing is if I was customer with 3 smartphones  it would be cheaper to go with AT&T.  I'm trying to read through all this on their site along with the comments made here and none of this makes sense.  Basically what this means to me is Sprint does not want any new customers.  No one in their right mind is going to pay more for Sprint than AT&T and VZW.  It used to be you got what you paid for.

 

Maybe I'm missing something with all this.  And no I'm not talking about current customers.  Talking about a typical 3-4 line family.  A co-worker of mine has been thinking of switching.  I told him to wait until the fall until the network vision was almost complete in our area first.  His contract was up in October.  He lives like a quarter mile from a site and his friends have Sprint and their calls work in his house.  AT&T isn't that great at his house.  The only thing he was worried about was the large portion of roaming on his trip from through Mississippi and North LA to his parents.  There's no way I'm going to talk him into switching when it is going to cost this much now.

That's my issue. I don't NEED unlimited. Between the 4 lines I have, we rarely go over 4 gb if ever. I'd be hard pressed to go with Sprint over AT&T or VZ given such a small price disparity. I have to say I have no clue what is going on.

Asian corporations are all about efficiency which most of the time leads to vertical integration (cough LG / Samsung / Sony / etc). Looks like Son wants to bring everything back in house to increase the reliability and efficiency of their network management teams.

 

I think saying he wishes to bring everything in house is a bit presumptuous. I'd like if that we're true but I doubt it.

It seems Sprint believes they're part of the "Big 3", when realistically, they are not all that different from T-Mo until 800mhz is widely deployed.

The last is my favorite. Reminds me of my childhood.

I have a different take on Legere's response:  "yes they are.... The next 2.5 years ... See you in 2016"

 

He is making another potshot against Sprint, insinuating that the 2.5 year Network Vision initiative will extend into the next 2.5 years.  For that reason, I am already finished engaging Legere (or his social media lackey).  He and his "rock star" CTO are filled with bravado but not much substance.

 

AJ

 

 

Exactly what I took out of this. It seemed pretty obvious he was implying it will take 2.5 years from NOW for Sprint to complete since they consistently "miss deadlines".

I'm no expert on plans (been on sero forever) but are people really complaining that these new unlimited plans are more expensive then the limited minute plans that are currently available? the unlimited family plan currently offered is way more expensive then this option.

 

Correct but all providers will now be automatically upselling you to unlimited voice just to increase revenue. Most people I know would never have a use for unlimited minutes to a land line.

I was just in Center City Allentown, along Tilghman Street, and then went into Whitehall to get a free Slurpee at 7-11 (!!) on Mickley Rd...sometimes couldn't do a speed test, then got one of 0.07 Mbps down.  Grrreat!  Come on, already!

 

Yea, there are definitely still towers on legacy backhaul. It's good to see progress, though, regardless.

Here is a speed test I just ran

 

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Very nice. I remember not being able to run Speedtests pretty much anywhere in Allentown.

I thought they upgraded the tower near my house, on Route 309 in New Tripoli, but sometimes I still get speeds in the 0.4-0.5 down range.  Shouldn't they be higher than that?  Right now, at 1:42 am, I just tested 0.99 Mbps.

 

 

Edit: Just had a burst to 1.19 Mbps down.  Still seems like NV speeds should be higher?  Are these perhaps still a T1 backhaul?

Depends on the load on the tower. But for that time I see 2mbps pretty regularly on new backhaul. Until LTE is lit up we can't know for sure what backhaul is in place. Realistically though, compared to some of the speeds I used to see around the LV, 400k a sec is wonderful!

Good speeds I live on emmaus ave near premo pizza and I get great speeds now they upgraded the tower by home depot that's the tower I useSent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

I've noticed much improved backhaul around the LV. Great to finally see.

That's what every carrier does.  You might get one more upgrade cycle from Sprint before they say you have to be on one of these plans to keep it.   

 

If so, there's not much reason left to stay with Sprint.

I have also noticed sites that perform like this. Keep in mind that there are often two completely independent teams of contractors that handle the legacy and the NV equipment and infrastructure.

 

It's entirely within the realm of possibility that the site in question has recently received a few more T1s but is suffering from some sort of airlink bottleneck.

 

It's also my understanding that LTE is broadcasted from individual towers as soon as technically possible, while the NV equipment's EVDO/1x is inactive and left to the legacy equipment (usually backhaul as well) until the geographic area is sufficiently upgraded to allow for smooth handoffs between sites. 

 

That is definitely not the ALU approach. Ericsson and Samsung do things much differently, however.

This is the part where we bring out the hater shades...

They said every reason as to how Sprint will shoot back up and in response people say, their network sucks so even if they have the money to fix it and are currently fixing it, it can't be fixed. Absolutely no sense.

Something along the lines of... Sprint is just throwing money at their problems and I don't see how that will help their network while also discussing AT&T and VZ cap ex. Smart investors indeed!