ericdabbs

magic trick

That is the idea.

Sprint better still be testing LTE in some of these cities because it seems like some of these speeds are pretty atrocious for a empty LTE network. I am hoping to see 10-15 Mbps avg speeds everywhere.

Thank you for explaining that. RevC is coming out soon, do you think Sprint will jump on that or just focus 100% on LTE?

There is no EVDO Rev C coming out soon. By the way Rev C was later renamed to Ultra Mobile Broadband (UMB) back in Dec 2006. However UMB never took off since Qualcomm in 2008 decided to kill UMB in favor of LTE and started focusing on building chipsets for it.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/08/ev-do-revision-c-becomes-ultra-mobile-broadband/

Hmm...if FreedomPop can get LTE, it sure would be nice if Virgin Mobile could as well. Ting's cool and all, but its phones are quite expensive, what with no subsidy and all that.

I can't see Sprint offering LTE to Virgin or Boost Mobile anytime soon after it just launched its Wimax phone lineup to them. I think another couple years from now after Sprint is finished blanketing LTE nationwide and the Wimax contract is winding down first we can see Sprint offering LTE to Virgin and Boost Mobile and by then there should be enough LTE carriers to accommodate everyone.

I looked at my EVO 4G LTE phone this afternoon and noticed it went to 4G...and has been on for over 3 hours now. 3Meg Down and 2 Meg up last speed check I did.

Where are you located at?

Eric...like dmchssc eludes to above, your comments must be predicated on the belief that the new Sprint network will be managed the same as the old Sprint network. Sprint cannot manage things like that post Network Vision. And I don't think they will. The revenue from MVNO's must pay for the increased carriers that will be needed because of the additional strain. I'm sure that it's factored in. And if it still makes them money beyond that, then I say the more the merrier.

 

So far, the amount of customers from any one MVNO is negligible. I like to think of MVNO's as little marketing and pricing model laboratories. If one becomes successful, Sprint will have to adopt similar strategies to keep from losing customers to the MVNO. The fact that Sprint doesn't feel threatened, but rather embraces MVNO's, makes me feel good about Sprint's long term vision.

 

Robert

Thanks for knocking sense into me once again. You are always the voice of reason .

Why is Sprint doing this??? Save the LTE for the postpaid customers.

I think the main competitor for sprint is AT&T, but I think AT&T will focus on the next AWS spectrum auction. I believe the FCC is freeing up another 40mhz. AT&T could probably go in and grab 20mhz nationwide since tmobile will likely be it's only main compeititor.

Yes I agree that AT&T is going to be the main competitor for the PCS H block spectrum. However if the Verizon deal gets approved, Verizon has said it would do the concessions of the Verizon/Tmobile spectrum swap AND sell its 700 MHz A and B blocks. I am sure AT&T is going to gobble up all of the 700 MHz B block spectrum since it coincides with their 700 MHz holdings and the rest like Metro, US Cellular, etc are going to gobble up the 700 MHz A block.

If this is true, then the FCC could look at AT&T and say you recently bought up spectrum in the 700 MHz so you should have sufficient spectrum and not allow AT&T to gobble up as much PCS H spectrum as they would have liked. Besides I think that the FCC should also consider whether the carrier that is obtaining the new spectrum is planning to build LTE in that band. It seems like AT&T is focused on trying to deploy LTE on the AWS spectrum so why should they get PCS spectrum? We know that Sprint would use the H block spectrum in the near future if they obtained nationwide licenses.

I think we can extrapolate that it is not hockey towns sprint is ignoring, it is NBA towns they are supporting. Sprint is now a sponsor of the NBA. Out of 33 first and second round deployments only six (excluding K.C.) are non-NBA towns and most have a NBA team they are supporting as in relatively close to. Put another way, only two NBA cities are not represented in the initial first, second or third round deployments and they are Denver and Utah (Salt Lake City).

 

Atlanta Hawks

Boston Celtics

Charlotte Bobcats

Chicago Bulls

Cleveland Cavaliers

Dallas Mavericks

Denver Nuggets

Detroit Pistons

Golden State Warriors

Houston Rockets

Indiana Pacers

LA Clippers

LA Lakers

Memphis Grizzlies

Miami Heat

Milwaukee Bucks

Minnesota Timberwolves

New Jersey Nets

New Orleans Hornets

New York Knicks

Oklahoma City Thunder

Orlando Magic

Philadelphia Sixers

Phoenix Suns

Portland Trail Blazers

Sacramento Kings

San Antonio Spurs

Toronto Raptors (Don't Count)

Utah Jazz

Washington Wizards

Technically Sacramento should be on the list as well since it hasn't been announced yet. The SF Bay market does NOT include Sacramento.

Nah, I think that's probably pretty close to what we will see. It just struck me as funny to lay everything out like that.

HAHAHAHA...I did put etc. I don't how much more you want me to bring it down by. You want me to listen the dimensions, WxHxD?

Robert has there been any developments in the borderline 2nd round markets like Phoenix, Cleveland, Tucson, OKC, St. Louis, Milwaukee?

I wish there were more details on the device like the screen size, RAM, processor, flash storage, etc

I am hoping for a 4.7 in screen, 1 or 1.5 GB RAM, Qualcomm S4 8960, 16 and 32 GB storage, NFC, BT 4.0, ICS 4.0.4 (upgradable to JB in the future), 2500 maH battery, microSD card slot, etc.

A couple interesting tidbits:

 

This device is a Band 25 LTE transceiver, operating between 1850 and 1915 MHz, with

channels of up to 10 MHz in bandwidth.

 

So apparently it can do 10x10 LTE unlike the GSIII, though that will likely be irrelevant for the immediate future.

I still don't understand why the SGS3 is the only phone that only has 5 MHz bandwidths for LTE. I believe the rest of the LTE phones so far can support 5 and 10 MHz bandwidths. They should have included 10 MHz bandwidths for longevity purposes.

so southern CT article is tomorrow?

HAHAHA Give the man a break!!!!

OMG I see San Francisco now with an anticipated launch date of January 2013.

I notice a lot of post regarding the markets in IL,FL,TX,PA,NYC.... but how about about the Los Angeles market? I THINK it was samsung doing the set up for the L.A market? Not sure though.... I'm not a sponsor member of the site so I can't really check... if I had a job I'd most definitely donate!

 

Couple of months ago the local towers were all down and being upgraded to NV I assume since Larry from Howard forums said there was NV work being done my zip code. The speeds were better for a bit but now they are awful again.

 

Can anyone (most preferred Robert) make a comment on if there is any LTE activity near 90255 area code?

 

Thanks, great site by the way... I'm a Lurker.

Febby. Welcome to the site. LA is being deployed with NV at this moment. Since you are new to the site, I will refer you to this thread below for the list of NV markets and their anticipated launch dates. I would suggest you bookmark that thread if you want to keep progress on any other markets that you are curious about.

http://s4gru.com/ind...t-running-list/

As you can see from the thread that LA is anticipated to be launched in the September 2012 time frame.

Another suggestion would be if you do have the opportunity to become a sponsor, DO IT!! Its totally worth the donation since you are able to get access that shows you which towers are live throughout the US including the ones that are live in LA right now.

Looks like the Motorola Photon Q has hit the FCC with Model XT897.

http://www.engadget....oton-q-lte-fcc/

FCC Link

https://fjallfoss.fc...%27IHDT56NL2%27

HAHAHA its Joan Lappin. Wasn't she the heckler during the Oct 7th Network Vision conference that called out the Sprint executives for not just contracting out its LTE deployment to Clearwire for 600 million? If it is her, then its kinda embarrassing to see 2.5 MHz as a typo.

Looks like San Francisco is in huge trouble. They are the last first round market that has yet to have a estimated launch date. Hopefully it can be launched in December if not by January.

No need for the sarcasm my friend as this was an honest question..I really want to stay with Sprint but I need to make a choice pretty quickly. In order to stay with Sprint I need an LTE phone and to do that I would have to pay 165 to reset my upgrade eligibility which is non refundable if I do so. So in order to save face thats why I am asking the question. Also do you know the radius of coverage one tower has to your device? How do I find out the exact lte tower location in relation to where I live?

Supertones wasn't trying to be sarcastic. He was giving an honest answer. I don't understand why you took offense to what he said. Basically what he said was accurate in that at launch about 40% of the towers in that market will be upgraded to LTE but after launch Sprint will continue to add towers every week until the entire market is done. Please read the market update article for Houston to find out more details. Please keep in mind that the goal of Network Vision is not to only upgrade to 4G LTE but to also improve 3G speeds through its new tower infrastructure and backhaul.

Just by your post count I can tell that you are new to this site so you haven't been able to read all the progress that Sprint has been making. Just watch come July 15th, you'll be amazed when tech blogs start doing speedtests for both 3G and LTE and it will be much faster.

With an (almost) complete target set for the end of 2013... Which is pretty fast, shouldn't we be seeing an (extremely) faster rollout coming in the few months?

 

It seems like there should be market launches similar to Verizon or more?

 

Or instead of launching cities like Verizon, are they going to launch cities and branch off of them slowly? Not sure if that made sense but maybe someone will get me.

You have to keep in mind that Sprint and its vendors are attacking the largest metropolitan cities first so they take longer to deploy enough coverage so that there are not that many gaping holes in LTE coverage. If you look at some of the recent markets that Robert has provided market updates like Jacksonville and Charlotte where its only going to take 2 months after the first LTE sites are launched to be market ready deployable. I expect to see Sprint ramp up their LTE market announcements dramatically in the first half of 2013 where the majority of the second round markets will be deployed.

Now that Jelly Bean is upon us, hope the new Moto Photon phone includes Jelly Bean instead of ICS. However knowing the track record of Motorola, I doubt that will happen unless Sprint demands them to. No point of deploying an ICS phone when Jelly Bean is the next biggest thing and they still have time considering the phone probably won't get released until late summer but who knows.

Just curious if anyone in those launch markets got some sort of text message to say that LTE will be launched on July 15th?

I think this is a smart move by Sprint PR. Instead of just launching 2 markets by end of June and then launching a few more in July, combine them with the July markets except for Baltimore. This gives all the LTE launch markets another 2.5 weeks to get their act together and get as many NV towers up as they can. I am too curious why Baltimore is not part of the initial LTE launch markets.