RichardXy

I can't wait for this to Start. San Diego has been one of the fastest growing areas in the country and Sprint just hasn't kept up. We need so many new towers to fill in the gaps. Even Verizon with their 700 Mhz spectrum has needed to add several new sites where I live. I hope Sprint doesn't put San Diego on the back burner again.

I hope a good deal of these new sites will be in markets that don't have Clearwire sites. I know a lot of markets have already benefitted from the added density.

Does Sprint have to pay a break-up fee and if so how much is it?

Longer? How do you figure? It will be way faster. They just have to add a panel and a carrier card. Everything else will be there from the original Network Vision upgrade. It will be more like Tmo's upgrade...just an overlay.

 

And now with SoftBank money and the fact that wireless crews should be a little less busy next year than this year, the Band 41 overlay should take less than 12 months start to finish on existing Network Vision sites.

 

It will take longer in a market like San Diego because they will need additional cell sites to do an adequate 2600 overlay. They will need to get permits, run fiber, etc. 2600 on existing sites will not provide enough coverage to make it an appealing user experience. Additionally, Clear did not have enough protection sites here to make a difference. I stand by my statement that it will take longer to cover San Diego in 2600 than 1900.

We probably won't have band 41 in Most of San Diego for a few years. I have less than a month left on my iPhone 4S contract and LTE is still pretty scarce in this area. I imagine the band 41 buildout will take as long or longer than the LTE 1900.

Late 2014? That's not clear. That's your wild ass guess and gut feeling based on your observations. It is not abundantly clear, as you say.The final completion date of the entire upgrade is not important.

This actually is not my guess. This is a reiteration of the dates supplied on the Network Deployment list on this site. So if anyone is guessing, it wasn't me. Some second and third round markets are showing completion dates of late 2014.

I would say that I'm more negative than positive but a pessimist. Never.

I wouldn't call it pessimism. It was optimism that had me check the Clearwire site daily for a year and a half and optimism that made me think Sprint might actually pull of their Network Vision as promised. It is abundantly clear now that the program is behind schedule and Network vision will be complete in late 2014. I think that is realistic and not pessimistic. It's best for Sprint if they begin to start managing expectations.

I see they are already trying to soften the blow. I suppose its better to start managing peoples expectations now instead of waiting until December.

Nothing in Southern California again!

It really doesn't make sense

AlcatelLucent is already starting quite a few markets early. These announcements are only related to communities nearing a launchable amount of service. And thankfully it appears San Diego is finally starting.Robert

I've read your explanations but it still makes no sense why alca-lu would be starting some markets early when they are already behind on markets that were supposed to start. Also, Alca-Lu's west coast area isn't showing anywhere near the progress of it's east coast one. It's like there is an Alcatel A team for the east coast and the west is stuck with the B team.

Again, nothing from Alcatel-Lucent. Way to drop the ball Alca-Lu!

It's great that they are starting early but we need to keep in mind that starting is no indication of when these markets will finish. San Diego is another Alca-Lu area that should have started but we have yet to see any official confirmation that anything is happening. I sometimes wonder if some of these third round markets are lighting up some towers just to make the national footprint look larger.

I think the north LA deployment hints that Riverside/San Bernadino, Orange County and San Diego are most likely well under way also.

Are you even in an active NV deployment area?

Yes according to the maps I am. Alcatel-Lucent and/or the backhaul vendor seems to be falling far behind.

Since his company in Japan is using WCDMA/HSPA & LTE, he was probably roaming on AT&T. Unless he was using one of his competitors (KDDI) phones to roam on Sprint.

Even sadder still. Its a good thing he wasn't on Sprint or he might not have bought the company! Hopefully, he'll get Sprint up to speed and thankfully, Japanese companies seem to give a lot of attention to California so that's going to be great for me.

Must have been using AT&T ;D

Most likely he was using Sprint. You get 100 kbps if you are lucky. Sure there are a few towers that go faster but they are few and far between. My friends with AT&T are getting 4Mbps on the iphone 4S. Network vision so far has been a huge joke.

If so, that would be the very first time they have crossed a market line and not be working in the rest of the market. So it seems unlikely. Also, we have had confirmation of work going on somewhere in almost every 2nd Round market, except for Southern CA, Pacific NW, Michigan and Long Island. Since the 2nd Round is well under way, it wouldn't be accurate to say Missouri is Round 1.5 if starting now.Robert

Are there no "sources" in these markets or is this more of a behind schedule situation?

I am very please to see more California cities on the list. As usual, nothing new from Alcatel-Lucent. slow pokes! just kidding.

I suppose there wont be a September map for San Diego. Can we see the October map for sites scheduled for LTE?

I plotted all of the cities in the list....unfortunately....nothing near me!You can see the map on this link.http://batchgeo.com/...4f26e69cf9e96d0

You forgot Long Beach, CA and Glendale, CA. This map starkly illustrates how the entire western half of the country is being largely ignored. It's a shame.

Now more than ever I feel like i need to see the maps for the planned September deployments. If I just saw a few sites in San Diego starting it could really calm my nerves.

Well hopefully, they will wait for a California event like the iphone 5 launch or MobileCon in San Diego to announce the cities west of the Rockies. I can only assume that this current announcement was made without reference to the west coast because Samsung and Alcatel-Lucent haven't released updated progress reports for the region.

There was not a single city in the Mountain Time Zone and only LA in the Pacific time zone. I thought that San Francisco was under way and I swear I saw some 4G sites in the San Jose/Silicon valley area on the maps on this site. It seems like they failed to list cities west of the Rockies except for LA. Was this list simply thrown together from a much larger list or is this all we can expect in the coming months?

is there any chance that San Diego will have any sites that are scheduled for September? I can't wait to see the September maps.

Richard...as usual, we disagree on some points. (I had to re-read your comments, they didn't absorb tonight)Robert

Right, Right... I just don't worry that Sprint will delay their launch plans because of people complaining about spotty coverage. The fact of the matter is that they need to have as many cities listed as possible as having 4G LTE even if the coverage is not so great. I think Sprint will continue to launch markets with as little as 40% coverage.

Verizon launched San Diego in 2010 and they still haven't covered the whole San Diego market. It took them over a year to get to my neighborhood. Sprint also needs to launch markets as soon as possible. If you check google news, all the stories are about Sprint's new coverage and not about complaints by customers.