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On a side note, what is your issue with VZW? 

"Gold standard" is silly. Verizon and AT&T embarrass this country. Neither has gathered their stuff to consistently stay number 1 or tied in the vast majority of markets. It's a perpetual cycle of laziness and springing into action, and Verizon happens to do better staying close to the top. Good for them. 

For one, I'm incredibly disappointed in their network performance and how nothing has changed for years in some areas. I'm sure AT&T is still disappointing people out there. I don't care, they shouldn't be using what doesn't work. Much of this is anecdotal anyways. So if I move somewhere Sprint and AT&T sucks, I switch. Super simple. I don't make this a career or cause. It's a hobby.

It's sad I still hear people on the big number one saying "I don't get data here" or "I don't get texts or calls sometimes", when I can pull out an AT&T, Sprint or occasionally T-Mobile phone with a 3G or better data connection ready and never a vanishing message. I also hate how people stick up for them when they are not worthy. Number 1 shouldn't mean an earned excuse, it should mean the opposite: they should be delivering more with pride and have zero excuses. 

But honestly and jokes aside- at the end of the day I'd use them if I needed to. And I don't care if people use any given carrier. Unlike these psycho magentans, I don't think people using any one of the 4 carriers are getting duked (unless they have a poor experience and refuse to leave, but that's their problem). Likewise, I also don't think any carrier cares about me as a person.

Ok?

https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3uqrqz/since_bingeon_and_unlimited_data_for_all_my_data/

 

   

 

That's right! Regardless of whether they add YouTube to the their CringeOn manifesto, we still have to start popping the popcorn for December 1st and their Unlimited Throttle Deprioritization nonsense!

Oh that's going to be good. Just wait until the end of next month. I bet we'll be picking a best horror story post of the day every day. 

Maybe we should start a new thread to try and be somewhat decent to this one. 

Verizon Band 13 Congestion (10x10Mhz)

 

 

8:49PM HST

That's not bad at all and quite usable. That's usually the best I'd ever see out of VZW. On average I'll see 1-2 down and 2-3 up for LTE, including on AWS overlays. "Unloaded" sectors are like 30/10.

The one and only milan03 on why BingeOn won't break the network, complete with anecdotal evidence.

 

https://np.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3unrek/personal_thoughts_on_binge_on_in_dense_urban/

 

Note this a NP (no participation) link. Commenting and voting is not allowed.

He has a very strong bias for T-Mobile and secondarily Verizon. I tend to wonder if he has employment or other affiliations with either or both, past or present. 

You have to give him credit: if you want anecdotal evidence to make you feel like T-Mobile is the greatest thing in the world, he can deliver. 

Congestion? No, no, this is their new service: GreenOn - slower data saves energy. it'll play really well with millennials, like John.

GreenOn: What are you Sprint trolls talking about? We don't want faster speeds anymore. We want efficency. You see how good we are. We're good for consumers AND the environment. But we'll still have speed test hour every day at 3AM. 

Part one of GreenOn: Download speeds at 1 Mbps. There's nothing you can't do with a magenta 1 Mbps. 

Part two: Upload speeds at 128 KB/s. Coming soon.

ATT is god damn expensive.

Well, their postpaid service (without a good discount) is unreasonable, very much like Verizon. However, if you could use them for a secondary line, GoPhone, Cricket and other MVNOs are actually quite reasonable. Or, if you can go without HD voice which most people can't even use anyways and can buy devices outright or have a device to bring, you can bring your primary line if needed. I believe Consumer Cellular has roaming if you need that. 

If you went the Cricket route, that's $50/$60 AFTER taxes for 5/10GB. And subtract 5 bucks for autopay discount, and then even more if you have more than one line. GoPhone also has an autopay discount. Consumer is better for lower usage. 

Well on the bright side maybe this whole ordeal will serve as a good example to point to when people say stuff like "carriers overcharge for data and all carriers could serve unlimited @ $10 a month if they wanted to with no impact on the network blah blah conspiracy".

Also, this mess will obviously take time to spread. Obviously the trolls will still travel 10 miles to suburban or rural towers at 3-5AM to whine about how the speeds are still fine. Obviously some areas won't see much on an effect, maybe none at all until (if they even do) T-Mobile adds YouTube to the list. 

The moral of this whole mess pink has created will likely be that, yes, carriers can do more, but not unrealistic utopia offers. And also hopefully not a laundry list of NN violations. 

So once again, we'll continue to hope for a future of large and fair data buckets. Not gimmicks, not unlimited, not harshly priced tiers.

We'll just wait till Binge on for YouTube is added and all the toddlers and kids will start watching youtube because parents wouldn't have to worry about hitting their high-speed cap.

 

More congestion, YAY!

 

That'll be the ReCarrier xmas gift if it doesn't come sooner. 

CringeOn 2.0: Now featuring downloads lower than Verizon's worst B13 and buckling AWS "XLTE" areas. CringeOn with industry leading buffering times at all new highs! Highest upload:download ratio speeds, highest latencies, highest jitter, highest unreliability, highest dropped calls. We are number 1! 

That's really strange...

And very rude. But I'm sure Atlanta users will have another reason to sport Sprint now. 

 

Was wondering why spotify was buffering so I did a speed test...

 

This has to be the worst congestion I've ever seen. I used to get 70 mbps at this spot. My upload seems fine so this has to be congestion.

#cringeon

Wow. And with no bad intentions, I didn't even think the anecdotal evidence would start piling up this quick. 

I guess they're trying to start 2016 off with a bang, and not a good one. 

Anybody remember when orignal nv was thought be donevby sprint . End 2013 if i remember right.

No, end of 2015. They are still on track. It could also mean early-mid 2016 as many have argued in the past, as that's when the deployment physically started. 

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/sprint-announces-network-vision-network-evolution-plan.htm

 

Completion of Network Vision across the Sprint network is expected to take from three to five years.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=16230160

 

I think someone needs some counseling.

What miserable people. And wow fraydog, you're documented! 

http://imgur.com/46Vzakb

 

Roasted that dude.

Good idea. Marcelo should also inspire him to get some shades as well. He needs them. 

lava lamp
 

Cell tower

Only EDGE 

Ahh they are cute with those name tags "recovery Sprint victim" on the reddit forum. You have to give them credit because they are tmobile policymakers, that is the place where Legere gets his uncarrier ideas.

 

For the last two years they have credited oakla as the source of their fast LTE network, but now since binge on, and all the free candy Legere is giving they are changing the narrative. Now they say 5 megabits down is enough for everything, and in two weeks they will discredit oakla as not accurate for network speed testing .

Yes. Their "movement" is a never ending circle of excuses and troll logical fallacies. Every one in the book they try to use to promote and do damage control for their bs. Sucks for the young and adult hipsters who took it seriously.

It's ending. This was their last good (if you'd call it that) year. Now it all goes downhill from here. 

Nah,  the magentans believe they will stay ahead of Sprint, Verizon etc because they have only used 45% of their spectrum holdings for LTE, in addition they LAA WiFi will save them of congestions.

Agreed. It's sad how seriously they take it. No wonder the dumbest of them hate this site.

Legere is basically the creation of the Sprint board. Had they allowed Hesse to buy metro PCS tmobile would be in a weak position, and Legere would had never been around.

Excellent quote. I agree and although it's over now that had to be among Hesse's greatest moves (love or hate him) and the Board's dumbest mistake.

"Sprints high band spectrum is useless...it can't even penetrate paper!"

"T-Mobile is utilizing 5Ghz unlicensed spectrum and will make things work!"

That was by far the greatest nonsense they were spewing and it was funny. It's gotten old, but when you do see those residual comments still being made, it's got to make you chuckle. What idiots.

It only shows the theoretical capacity, which frankly should be 150 Mbps on an empty 20x20 AWS LTE channel next to the site. Yet this is brought up as a great achievement if a 3 AM speed test finds this speed. Duh, that's what it should get.

But, it's not just any kind of AWS. It's T-Mobile's AWS. That makes it special. Also, so long as you can get 1 megabit or more, that magically makes it acceptable. But not for any other carrier. 

no one of the best if not best band 41 performers arounds. Note 5 is ridiculously good at all 3 bands.

Good to hear. 

Question to all: How's the RF performance for the S series? I hear the S4 and S5 aren't so good. How's the S6 compare to the S3-S5 or Note 3-5?

Any general experiences? Thanks.

http://9to5mac.com/2015/11/23/tmobile-uncarrier-unwrapped-unlimited-data/

 

T-Mobile seems to be on a mission to rapidly destroy their network.

Exactly what I thought. I think they forget what the gift that keeps on giving actually is and will be. 

And because more people will be streaming since it doesn't account for data usage. Congestion will occur costing T-Mobile even more money to erect new sites.

 

If YouTube is added, why even pay more?

 

I can get a kid a cheapo LG Leon with the 3GB package, Give him Netflix, Hulu and Youtube (Added soon)

 

He uses 30Gigs from streaming cause it's free, where does T-Mobile make money from that?

The higher tier packages wouldn't even matter anymore, Music streaming is free, Video streaming is free..

 

And here's the kicker, Now tether your tablets and laptops for free and you can also bingeon with those additional devices, WAY to suck even more bandwidth!

 

As Marcelo stated, #cringeon

 

Might even put satellite companies out of business such as Hugesnet, Cause now you can pay $30 for a T-Mobile Hotspot and bingeon the whole household!

 

If too many things are free, where's the revenue?

Because it will all magically work out in T-NeverNeverLand, everything is perfect. Even terrible speeds and many areas with no 3G fallback. Because it's all for the customer. And they really care. They're not for money, they're for the customers and pain points. Yeah, that's it. 

Sorry with the sarcasm, but this is just another long loophole. I like your post because it illustrates very well how this can and will turn into a mess. I also agree: how will it make money? 

Well atleast here I can post my slow speedtest's without getting it downvoted by the magentianites on reddit

 

Even if it's a VALID problem, the magentianites will trash it, While they have no problem going to the Sprint subreddit and trashing them on their congestion issues also

Well hey, the point was taken. Luckily most people in this community know the reality of all 4 carriers.

I'm quite amused how quickly this new gimmick is bogging down the network in certain areas already. I'm presuming it will even show up in some 1H and 2H RM reports.

What sort of backwards congestion is this!

 

(image snip)

LOL! Maybe a whole bunch of magentans running the upload portion of a speedtest at the same time? Or everyone uploading their speed tests at the same time? Or they don't like you?

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