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10 hours ago, danlodish345 said:

I have gigabit Xfinity Internet. Sprint works great but I get ludicrous speed on my Wi-Fi.

My comcast WiFi is insane! My charter works well too charter never goes below 100 down (Speedtest) my Comcast is just ridiculous speeds. Seems like they’re both always telling me I got a speed upgrade. 

I think the arguement could be made NOT to divest spectrum. Yes it’s alot however everyone is looking to get more. So give up some to then need more as the 5g and the user base grows? 

Maybe forced to “swap” or sell but letting go of the spectrum if I was the NewT I wouldnt do and back out.

14 hours ago, Dkoellerwx said:

- The networks will be merged. They are expecting to have 85k macro sites after decommissioning 35k sites, and adding 10k for expansion.

- T-Mobile equipment will be added to remaining Sprint sites, and Sprint bands added to T-Mobile sites (especially B41 / 2.5 LTE).

- Part of the NV project was installing base stations that are flexible, adding T-Mobile band should be no issue. I don't know as much about T-Mobile sites, but most are using modern equipment so it shouldn't be a major issue there either.

- Most recent devices support the majority of T-Mobile LTE bands, so no issues there.

- 1x800 will continue to run until Sprint subs are migrated over to T-Mobile (2-3 years at least).

- Customers will be migrated over to T-Mobile billing over the course of 2-3 years (at least). What plans those will be is not clear now.

Maybe this ^^^^^^^^^ could be a sticky and updated as more comes out? 

1 hour ago, nexgencpu said:

Fixed 5G yes, not mobile mm wave 5G. It makes zero economic sense, don't think Verizon is in the game to lose money.

Which my previous point was vague,  but this is what I was alluding too. Everyone is going to take on more but rolling out 5g, fixing the network sprint could have made huge gains and $$$. The others aren’t in a good position to even offer Mobile 5g. Sprint  would be a giant step ahead for once if they could have gotten over this last bump. 

3 minutes ago, utiz4321 said:

It my missed my point. Sprint's debt is burdensome, to the point that they wont be able to pay it back and continue to invest. Sprint is me, VZW is warren buffet. I thought that was clear but maybe not. 

Lmao!! Since you put it that way. My point is only that even we the members knew sprint wasn’t going to be a overnight turnaround. I thought sprint had pointed the ship and the right direction and was about to sail with 5g. They were finally going to take the lead in using their only advantage..Spectrum/5g. Was it the fact of their prices? Doubt it, I think it was more the name “Sprint” that just didn’t give people confidence. I wish Son would have followed through. All that BS with mini cells and telephone poll heights.... seems sprint tried to many shortcuts and always got caught. Oh well can’t express how disappointed I am in yet another sprint executive.  

2 hours ago, utiz4321 said:

Yeah, let's not look at the free cash flow, revenues, dividen payouts or anything else when we think about how burdensome the respective debt loads are. Let's just look at total debt, because that is the whole story. Look, warren buffet has more debt than I do, I must be doing better than him!

Let’s not. Let’s just keep it simple. Son was hoping for a quick turnaround... it didn’t work rather than take a chance he chose to get out. 

Your point about Warren is exactly what I am saying. Many kept pointing to Sprints debt, as you mentioned earlier (point) debt isn’t the only part. He chose to get out. 

Son just wanted out.  I keep hearing about debt, if Sprint has 34billion and vzw $120bil in debt what’s the problem? Sprint has the spectrum to get better whereas vzw can only buy more then deploy.  My point is in comparison they all have about the same amount of debt in relation to the size of their companies. -Son just wanted out because it’s a long term investment not a quick turnaround in the American market like he thought.

i Read Tmo only gets 40%??? 

https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/28/t-mobile-and-sprint-finalizing-merger/

soooo how does this work 40 of sons 85?

It could be sprint wanting to acquire tmo

crazy as it sounds sprint may be in a better position than Tmo moving forward...

tmo needs more spectrum...etc,etc 

could be a partnership where Tmo uses some of sprints 5g to aid sprint in costs and save Tmo from having to purchase more spectrum soon....

who knows  but I bet it isn’t gonna just be sprint Tmo some other 3rd party will be involved 

1 hour ago, bigsnake49 said:

Well they are colocated in a lot of sites. They would have used Sprint's PCS spectrum to beef up midband and totally blanketed the county with 2.5GHz. They made a stupid mistake. Now it might be that the FCC/DOJ might not have let them merge but at least they had to try. Sprint/Softbank also made mistakes in that they did not make the investment necessary to keep up with the rest of the industry, thus falling behind because they were waiting for the merger.

I am not so sure about sprint NOT making the investment. Masa wanted to merge with someone who would benefit sprint. “Not” making the investment or possibly strategic planning? Meaning why keep paying to upgrade when we know 5g is coming. I think sprint may have had a window where they figured if they merge/Buy/sell it won’t set them any further behind. If it falls through, Plan B is 5g buildout asap. 

All of the areas that are lacking will be brought up to par with 5g rollout anyways. I know it sounds confusing but if sprint was “shopping itself” I think they were thinking wait and see before they upgrade as mentioned before many towers are co located which would have been unnecessary had the merge gone through. It hasn’t disrupted the 5g plans so I “think” this may have been their strategy or plan b of it all along. 

Sprint could fix the network tomorrow and people still wouldn’t come in flocks because of the bad rep. But if sprint gets its 5g out and can brag speeds or they could do a big media push and start to get people’s attention?

36 minutes ago, ericdabbs said:

One thing for sure is that with 600 Mhz, they will definitely be able to deploy the 5G network faster and wider than with the high band frequencies and there are not any incumbent cellular technologies deployed at this point at 600 MHz.  I think that in itself will also pay dividends.  Just look what being the first to deploy 4G LTE quickly and widely did for Verizon back in 2010.  I am pretty sure that Sprint will not deploy 5G on its 800 MHz until a while since Sprint has CDMA and LTE deployed on it and their treasure trove of spectrum is in 2.5 GHz band is where I see Sprint first deploying 5G.  Again the problem with Sprint is that there is a lot of talk but not enough walk.  I still think that what Tmobile did with spending 8B for their average 35 MHz of 600 MHz was worth it.  Again we won't know until a few more years when TV stations vacate the 600 MHz spectrum. 

I am not saying that Sprint has doesn't have great potential with 2.5 GHz but even now it still has yet to fully bear fruit after 7 years of Network Vision.  Sprint is where they are at in 4th place with people bolting because of coverage and inconsistent capacity issues.  Lets hope that its true that Sprint and Masa are fully dedicated to competing and raising capex for the next few years to 5-6 billion because the 3 billion figure they had was surely not cutting it.  I would like to see 4 strong competitors rather than a weak Sprint and Tmobile.

I wasn’t even aware Tmo would roll out 5g first in 600! You’re right it could be huge for them.  I see everyone trying to get the high band for capacity so I was under the impression it would a must have for 5g. Low band would be the fall back

51 minutes ago, ericdabbs said:

I disagree that 600 mhz is overrated at all. Is it the most important piece of spectrum for 5G? Not by a long stretch. But it does help bridge coverage gaps and does help stretch into new markets faster that it would not otherwise. I would say sprint severely lacks low bamd spectrum.

 

While Tmobile may be praising 600 mhz but that is because they are now able to truly say they have spectrum nationwide that they can build into new markets. Tmobile is in no way content with just 600 mhz. In fact they have been very vocal in pressing the FCC to open up 3.5 ghz and just the other day pressing the FCC to open up 28 ghz, 37 ghz and 40 ghz spectrum to be auctioned. Also they have been doing test trials of 3.5 ghz, 28 ghz spectrum and other spectrum bands for 5G.

 

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I agree with your points however you also pointed several others frequencies that may end up being more important than 600. Which is why I feel it might be overrated. It definitely has a role can’t argue it doesn’t. But I don’t see it playing a huge part in the future as we see the numbers are clearly going up for capacity.

Again, not saying it doesn’t have a place just wondering with the price paid for what it will probably be used for might make it overrated.

4 hours ago, derrph said:

For the the jury is still out on 600. T-mobile has a serious obsession with Verizon. They may get close to the coverage that they have but where T-Mobile still fails at is their reliability which I have yet to understand as to why at this point.

Something in me feels like when 5G starts to roll around, I think think Sprint will be one of the carriers that’s going to shine and will be one if not the fastest. I feel as though For them to deploy 5G, they will have an easier ride since their 2.5 is suited for it. No one is from the media, other carriers or their subs will admit to this but Sprint is definitely the carrier to watch for going into 5G.


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I couldn’t agree more, I know we have been waiting for sooo long but I feel when sprint hits the switch a lot of people will be shocked.

i have mixed feelings about what I am saying but I think 600 is waaaaaay overrated. Yes it helps with coverage but it is clear the future is automated. Cars, refrigerators,phones, tablets Alexa and so forth. For this massive amount of data that will only continue to grow where does 600 fit if it has capacity setbacks? With cable in the mix the future will be small cell located at every street light/corner. 

I think Tmo mistake may have been to purchase the 600, they are clearly going for coverage to get themselves the same credibility as att/vzw. 

This may be a long term mistake as everyone is moving up.  Or it may work out for them long term, short term I don’t see any benefit of 600 with everyone racing to get 5g out. Maybe I am missing something 

Great news! What's the backhaul for these sites? Wireline/Microwave/Satellite?

I would guess all three will play some part. What better place/way to try out the satellite part, in areas u can tweak it and maximize it before moving into more dense areas.

 

Keep moving forward Sprint!!????????

https://www.engadget.com/amp/2017/08/16/t-mobile-600mhz-lte-live/

Tmo has a 600 tower live apparently but no phones yet.

Warren buffet is a great idea, I don't think charter/Comcast is dead. Maybe buffet gets part ownership for 5 billion... then with charter/Comcast contributing to a "partnership" sky is the limit! They can still buy tmo!

Maybe sprint will spin off a new company for charter and Comcast to do wireless with. Then merge with tmo. Basically keeping competition by bringing in a potential powerhouse.

 

Divesting some of their spectrum to this new subsidiary of sprint/SoftBank that runs this "new" network/ company that involves charter/Comcast wireless.

Just a wild thought

I have signal detector logs and SCP that say B41 is wide spread on the western part of the state. 70% of Newtown and Monroe area is covered. 90% of the interstate between Waterbury and Tunxis Community College is covered with B41 not "small spots". 100% LTE coverage the last time I went into West CT since I started a massive signal detector logs collection. Which I was in the Monroe area and up to past Tunxis Community College. A lot of B41 sites around Bridgeport. West Haven had the first B41 3rd carrier in ALU markets. Windsor Locks has a decent network the last couple years I have worked up there 4 or 5 weeks a year.

 

The maps are sponsor level different color pins for different tech.

Conn coverage is unacceptable. You are giving us spots- yes there is b41 in Ct considering it was there years ago now it's isn't on par with the other 2(3) companies. I drive it on the reg and it's spotty. Spotty as in some here and some there. 91 corridor isn't that bad, but there are way to many place people go with iffy coverage. Let's not forget it's a small state in a major market so why so long to get coverage together? It baffles me how some cities like Chicago have all deployment but here where there are major cities in such close proximity they haven't deployed like Chicago for example.

I don't see a merger with Tmo if both are thriving. Sprint always finishing 4th and struggling would make the case "let us merge or bail us out " sprint could easily decide to shut down and sell off everything and your still left with 3. I am actually not for the merger but want sprints service to get better much faster than what it is. Merger with someone looks like the only way.

Many of the highest earner get cell service from their employers. I would also argue that Sprint service in those areas is still probably better than say Verizon's in say northern MN. There are areas larger than RI that have no service from any provider. Get out to day Northome MN and see what spotty service really is. It's an expectation game. You simply expect more.

 

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My expectations are based off what the other carriers have in my immediate area, not someplace across the country. This is where I use my phone 80% of the time. Myself and many others like me don't expect to NOT have usable service In highly populated areas here in the northeast. Sprint should have better coverage period. In places where they do the experience is great. Sprint just needs to step up and they will be fine.

Out of those four states only one can have a large ignored area as only one is a large enough to have a large area at all. You are also assuming that density of population has anything to do with profit. All of those four states are also have one thing in common. Higher than average per capita income. Most are not looking for a deal and are probably going to stick with the big two.

 

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I am in western mass and sprints coverage is very "spotty". Voice works but there are many areas where data is just well .... I have many friends who have all tried sprint and ran back to att/vzw now Tmo as sprints coverage as well as reputation just doesn't cut it. Many who are on sprint is strictly to save $$$ because of that they deal with coverage. I myself have been a sprint customer for over 15 years and recently activated a att account. I can tell you first hand they all have places where reception is so-so but sprint by far has the most in the springfield area. If sprint could prove they had the coverage and reliability people would run. No one is happy paying the high prices of the big 2. Some of the people with the highest incomes are the most frugal

I don't see a merger happening. The FCC would likely block it as Chief Eunuch Ajit Pai is just on loan to the guberment from Verizon and I cant see Verizon wanting a tmo sprint tie up. He has his eye on a cherry job with Vzw after he finishes his time as an instrument of evil so will be remembering who bought him his current job and what he stands to earn after he goes back to the industry.

Wouldn't a merger benefit att/vzw as well? With only 3 sprint can raise prices build out the network. Vzw wouldn't have to play with these cheaper brands anymore as all 3 will be somewhere close to the same.

Marcelo said it would be happening: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4075474-sprints-ceo-marcelo-claure-presents-j-p-morgan-global-technology-media-telecom-conference

 

"What are we doing from distribution? We are tremendously under distributed at least from a company-owned, so we are growing from a 1,000 company-owned store to what 1,800, so it’s a big growth for Sprint. We are going to add 100 stores. We are going to add over a 1,000 boosters in our prepaid business. So that’s big growth. I mean, Sprint hadn’t open stores in many years. At the same time we are growing through dealers. So it’s a combination of direct and indirect growth."

 

 

Maybe sprint talking itself up to promote a sale? Making things "sound good"? I definitely think Masa wants a global superpower and US won't let him get it. I am sure he wants dish and Tmo/sprint to eventually make SoftBank a global wireless powerhouse. That said I don't think he has much patience nowadays. Sprint isn't flipping fast enough, I believe he really thought sprint would bought Tmo by now and would be flourishing. He wasn't ready for American politics or thought he was bigger either way he wasn't ready for what he got.

Bloomberg's thoughts on a stock for stock deal involving Sprint & T-Mobile.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-05/in-t-mobile-sprint-talks-stock-deal-said-to-emerge-as-an-option

 

 

Very interesting.. no loans and we see its sprint being bought not sprint buying Tmo. That must surely show that Masa does really want to get out of of sprint. -- It did also mention both companies are speaking with others.. I wonder who is talking to who?