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Even 160 MHz wouldn't be enough if every sprint customer were streaming pandora 12 hours a day.

fact or conjecture? I'd like to see the math on that, either way.

Pandora is probably a bad example to use, since it is not real time streaming, its simply a buffered audio file and will download as fast or slow as the network provides, and once the playing track finishes transferring, it stops and waits for the next track, so it is not a constant stream, its a stop and go of variable time and size.

pulling out the random numbers and conjecture, lets say that on average pandora users xfer ~5 meg every ~5minutes. The faster the network can transfer that 5 meg, the less time is spent using that spectrum.

I don't know what the current or projected customer base numbers are, nor do I know how much spectrum that 5 meg every 5 minutes uses, so I can't really provide any further basis for extrapolation, but I'm sure someone here can fill in the blanks.

I'd agree that *conservative* or tapered throttling would be better than caps and overage charges, but not like how att/tmobile drop you from 3g/4g to an un-usable .0000002kbs* if you go over some arbitrary limit.

*obvious exaggeration

tl;dr: WiFi offloading at home works. I can be a power user and still use under 2GB. But I'd love not to have that limitation. Hence my sticking with Sprint.

What is you're total bandwidth usage *including* wifi offload? Oh, you mean you are using over 2gb...

Just because you are offloading to wifi, that does not mean it doesn't count.

If you are using someone other than sprint for wifi, that bandwidth is still being paid for, and could in fact be counting to some other cap (ie att's ~150g cap on dsl).

Unlimited is for, pardon the tired expression, the 1%. The 99% uses less than 2GB of bandwidth a month.

As phones (and tablets) become more powerful and LTE expands, a lot more people will start (or want to start) using more multimedia, or larger/online/streaming games etc.

pardon this tired expression, but anyone using less than 2gb bandwidth a month is not really using their phone for much and probably does not even need a smartphone.

in the small print under the 'hurry offer ends', you can see that it says direct connect and pre-owned devices excluded, which infers to me that you can upgrade to other phones not listed.

Today (9/1/2012) received in snail mail a sprint flyer advertising early upgrade (for my phone#), offer ending 9/26/2012.

Pictured on the flyer are xprt (free), epic 4g touch (99), and evo4g lte (199).

While the 3 phones are listed in the fine print, I don't see anything that specifically states they are the only phones offered for early upgrade, even though I suspect that is the intent.

I have an evo 3d and my current contract ends 6/2013, so this is a pretty nice deal, even if limited to those phones.

Regarding the promo end date, I suspect it means either;

- iphone5 will be announced prior to 9/26, but won't be available until after 9/26.

or

- iphone5 will be available prior to 9/26 and promo-eligible customers may be able to talk sprint into applying the upgrade promo to the as yet unannounced iphone5.

In any case, I think the date is significant in some manner.

I propose we get back on topic, Sprint should obviously have LTE in LOCATION Z first because everyone will need it when the Z-POCALYPSE happens.

awesome, now I have a timeline for my next phone, if I can keep myself from picking up an evo lte before then.

the timeline pic is nifty, looks like we can expect a 'tizen' (intel based) phone mid 2013 and keylime pie android early second half 2013.

also, it looks like we can expect the iphone 5 to only support 1 lte band, though the 5s or 6 should be triband.

you can control the service and how much battery it is allowed to use or disable it so it only collects while the app is active.

whoops, you are correct, office depot.

the better question would be, for how long will clearwire unlimited 4g plans last, and will they support unlimited lte once its rolled out.

I've used sensory off and on since the original evo 4g came out, its an ok app but there is no local logging that you can access, at least nothing indicated as such from the app.

The maps are essentially the breadcrumb area trails that are uploaded as people drive around with active/background scans going. I plotted out alot of the original wimax areas in the stl area with it when I got my evo4g.

I am curious, is it expected/known whether NV upgrades will continue outward from KC along I70 towards and into STL, or will KC deployments reach a certain threshold and stop, and then eventually deployments will start within STL and expand out eventually covering the i70 corridor?

I picked up a nexus 7 8 gig at home depot, it was tax free weekend, so I got it @ ~$259 with the 2y warranty and some accessory pack.

The device itself is awesome. I have had an evo view 4g for a while now, so I've been pretty familiar/comfortable with the form factor.

I think the evo view is awesome and was ahead of its time, but the nexus 7 has a few generations of improvements, both hardware and software wise. I wish I could get ics/jb on the view.

But anyway, the n7 is definitely the new leader of the class.

One thing, I would highly recommend the 16 gb, the 8g has less 5.9gb of usable space and that quickly disappears if you put any of the tegra or other large games on it. I am already out of space from putting the various apps I already had on my evo view (which was 16gb).

The whole problem I have with data caps/tiers, is that they are fundamentally different from the 'minutes/texts' tiers that we don't seem to have a problem with.

And why is, because minutes and texts have a definitive use/cost structure. A minute is a minute whether you call your mom or your girlfriend/wife. A text is a text regardless whether the recipient is on-net or off-net.

Whereas, data usages is inherently an unknown and completely variable factor, and it can't be completely predicted before use, like watching the clock on a phone call or limiting your number of texts.

When you go to youtube to watch a video, or you read an email with attachements, it is theoretically possible to know how much bandwidth you will use, but in most cases it is not known beforehand. Further, simply browsing the web is a completely unknown usage factor, because nearly every modern website generates pages dynamically, and often has 3rd party content (ie ads) which introduce further variability even when refreshing the same page.

The phone companies obviously see huge dollar signs in tiered pricing, and as noted above, tiered bandwidth tends to force nearly all parties involved (users/phone manufacturers/apps/content providers) to be more efficient, than say when you have an unlimited pipe and you don't have to be 'careful' about going over some arbitrary limit.

I stream pandora and/or last.fm daily at work, and use 5-9 gigs per month of wimax. If caps were around 10gig I think that would be plenty for most people to not worry even with streaming. Using a shared data pool between multiple people, well that would be nerve wracking for just about any size cap.

When I was on att (with a grandfathered unlimited) and started hitting that softcap, it wouldn't hardly keep up with a stream with the low bandwidth.

Of course, if I was stuck on sprint 3g all the time, it would be just as horrible for streaming, but fortunately wimax hits 95% of my normal usage pattern. When I get out of wimax area, I tend to go back to radio/sat/usb audio.

icloud is not really that big of an advantage (if any) over android, between google's integrated services (books/music/photo's/etc) and amazons new cloud player/drive with similar functionality as 'itunes match', its basically a wash.

For those that are not aware, you can sync photos and such via android with picasa/google photo's, at least in the newer android versions.

an older lifehacker article comparing icloud to google

http://lifehacker.co...oud-from-google

essentially it boils down to whether or not you are 'mac centric', or want/don't want to be.

I have the same drive connected to my netgear router and streaming on my PS3 is lightning fast!

that is the first time I have heard 'mybook live' and 'lightning fast' in the same sentence... let alone hanging off a low power router? edit: well I read that as meaning USB connected, but then I realized you probably meant gbit ethernet connected, in that case disregard the bit about hanging off the router.

While I don't doubt it can handle basic file tranfer to your ps3, I have to wonder about your consideration of 'lightning fast'.

copy a bluray iso to it and back, and let me know how fast that is.

I believe this is specific to vz, because of the restrictions placed on vz's lte 700.

Other carriers/freq's don't have that restriction (that they cannot restrict specific data usage).

I would like to get an evo lte, but what I am holding out for is the next nexus (or iphone eek) with LTE 800/1900/2500

you can get a diskless readynas ultra2 for $262 at amazon

http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ReadyNAS-Diskless-Attached-RNDU2000/dp/B004AM61XY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1343847803&sr=8-2&keywords=readynas+ultra+2

by default it will be in expandable mirror (x-raid2), but can be configured for individual disk volumes if that is what you prefer (no redundancy).

I was in a few hundred shares of sprint until I got out during the recent peak, but one of the idea's I was hoping to happen would be apple or google buy sprint and use it to further their applicable phone ecosystem.

I'm still holding on some clearwire for the same concept, I figure that either sprint, or google/apple will eventually make moves to either buy clwr or their spectrum.

So this has been out a while and now that lte is live in a few cities, how many have one and how well does it work?

has anyone tried using the device with non-sprint branded service, ie clear or virgin?

I'm in a decent wimax area, but no LTE yet (stl).

I would be interested in the device for use with clear unlimited data wimax, until lte goes live here.

Hello, I have tried searching around (here and google) but haven't been able to find an answer.

I realize that eHRPD works hand in hand with LTE, but I have been trying to confirm whether or not eHRPD can/should/does work with any existing 3g/1x/evdo phones/radios?

I personally have an evo 3d (and a loaned out evo wimax), but I was wondering since eHRPD is an enhancement of 3g, what exactly does or would it take on the client (phone) to be able to connect via eHRPD. IE does it require certain hardware, or baseband/firmware, or system/software or all the above.

I have not noticed eHRPD on my 3d, but I don't know if there are any supported towers in my area (st louis).

Thanks, and thanks for the great site and info.