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clearwire was not hemorrhaging money because of 'data abusers' or 'data hogs'.
They were hemorrhaging money because of poor management and customer service, (initially) locking customers into long term contracts for high speed internet then essentially reneging by throttling users down to un-usable or barely usable speeds.
By the time they got rid of contracts, it was already too late, with the fall of wimax and success of LTE, clearwire had expended tons of money on already obsoleted technology. (not that they had much of a choice at the time, lte technology was not yet readily available)
Clearwire lost money not of data usage by its users and considering that most users came on the network as Sprint owned customer. They never had the fund to fully build a network that would have provided the coverage as demanded by its users.
Clearwire lacked the coordination and strategy to run the business. I remember the plans to allow phone service, their expensive retail network etc.
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So far there is no hint, press release or otherwise, that Sprint is opening up its Band 41 TDD-LTE network for fixed internet service. The only mention so far is a joint venture network test with Dish in Corpus Christi, Texas. However, that is a separate network and not tied to Sprint's Band 41 network. In the joint venture, a customer of one is not automatically a user of the other from either direction.
It may change after the joint venture test and grow into something else. However, at this point, there is nothing official or credible that says that Sprint will open up their Band 41 network for home/business ISP usage. And I think that it would stay that way until possibly they can deploy 4x4 or 8x8 MIMO and Band 41 Carrier Aggregation. Then they could possibly stand a chance to support the kind of traffic that a fixed ISP service would put on the network.
And if they do, it would likely not be an interchangeable mobile/fixed solution. You likely would have a separate fixed ISP account, and it will likely have limits. If there ends up being an unlimited option, it won't be $49. There would likely be data tiers, like $50 for 10GB, $75 for 25GB and $100+ for unlimited. Something along those lines.
You can forget a Clearwire-like ISP offering on LTE by Sprint. Clearwire ISP business was hemorrhaging money. The model was unsustainable and destined for bankruptcy. No way in the world someone as shrewd and smart as Masayoshi Son would allow a Clearwire business model repeated.
If Sprint offers a wireless LTE ISP in the future, you can count on a few things:
- It will be more expensive
- It will have data tiers
- It will have enough limits that it will not impact the network performance for smartphone users
- It will be used to draw more postpaid subscribers to its standard network and increase revenues, not be a burden to the network or capex
- It will not be a new place for data abusers to hang out
Sprint doesn't want to keep or attract data abusers. They are too expensive. They want to lure all those lucrative customers who are used to data tiers now at Verizon and AT&T back. If you can give them unlimited smartphone use and a tiered data home ISP for the same amount or less than Verizon does just for smartphone, it would be very attractive.
No one should be holding their breath or counting on a Clearwire customer experience on Sprint LTE. It will look nothing like it. If it even happens at all. If the Corpus Christi trial is a bust, they may run from it all together.
Let's not forget that Verizon and T-Mobile are deploying 20MHz channels in many markets around the country now. Sprint has to compete with that. It would be foolish for Sprint to allow their 20MHz channels bog down with home use while their competitors tout speeds and capacity advantages.
Robert
Considering all the spectrum Sprint gained from Clearwire, how much is really in use at the moment and why not keep WiMax going. There is little or no capex to continue to run this network and if Sprint has on average 100 Mhz of Spectrum or more across the U.S. what's the rush to shut down WiMax? Why not utilize the 80 MHz not in use at the moment?
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You really ought to consider home based internet if you are in the Vegas Metro area. My best friend has CenturyLink, and he gets decent speeds at home. And the price is even reasonable.
Edit: I keep my ClearSpot Voyager as a backup now that I have U-Verse in Visalia, CA. And when I need WiMax in Vegas, I use it. However, you must be the reason my WiMax is slow everytime I come to Vegas.
I wish we could have cable but they stoped building out about 2 miles from my place and they don't want to build more at this point in time. CenturyLink is not an option either because their next DSL hub is too far to have good speeds plus they have too many outages. Seriously, I have a truck almost everyweek across the street fixing the lines at a neighbors house.
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Now I know why my 4G wimax data was mostly useless on my Evo 3D.
I have several FreedomPOP Wimax phones running and my daughters use their data quick. Still I limit them to their 500MB of free data. I have been using Wimax in Las Vegas, Los Angeles and in the Bay Area with no problems and it works just fine.
I have been down in Laughlin and Wimax was sweet and fast too besides just being a protection site.
Definitely loved the free data on Nextel phones when I visited/traveled Mexico.
I had to get a TMo phone just for the free data because the roaming fees are really bad. I used 6GB in Mexico and there was no compalining from TMo (yet)
Personally I would not be the one to be boasting about how many hundreds of GB of data I use...Maybe ok if it were home broadband use, but I know some people who have portable unlimited on Clear and use that much. I would personally try and keep those high numbers so People do not attack you for abuse and such haha
Sorry, but some people don't have Wifi in their house from their cable or phone company and we have to rely on Wireless data.
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I have 2 clear accounts one under the $39.99 and the other on the $54.99 and I hope they don't change the prices if they do I'm gone, I use about 200gbs of data on the $40 account and about 300gbs of data on the $55 account. So if I see a change in this months bill I'm gone.
Why would you leave? They will increase the prices but honestly there is not much out there if you need wireless internet. I use a lot more and I stick with them and hey I remember the extra fees I had to pay for Nextel but it was worth it because I had free data while roaming in Mexico in addition to killer coverage in my area. I just hope Sprint gets their 800 running soon.
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I received an email from Clearwire today that my old $37.50 rate per device (I have two) will increase by $5 on my next billing cycle. Okay, I have been (Ab)using Clear for many years and the $10 or $120 a year a still better compared to other wireless providers.
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Not likely, at least a WiMax agreement anyway. Sprint didn't have to keep any agreements when they purchased Clear. They either gave them a new agreement that ends with the end of the WiMax network, or possibly, they have worked out a new long term LTE deal with them keeping WiMax in the interim.
Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro
They will switch to LTE as long Sprint wants to maintain the leased spectrum eventually.
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Hi all...
Just wondering if anyone experienced this. Just got a 4g-wimax Galaxy 2, my 1st 4g phone last Friday.
I have been in some great coverage locations and got a good 4g connection BUT NO DATA. I found my assigned IP in all those instances was 6.6.2.142, one in a pool of IP addresses (NetRange: 6.0.0.0 - 6.255.255.255) allocated to AS668 DoD Network Information Center, Department of Defense.
Anyone experienced a great stable connection while stationary but unable to get any internet data?
Was it resolved? I'd sure appreciate some ideas. The phone is bone stock with the gb27 radio.
This is wierd...
Could be your local tower is down. I had this several times over the years and Technical Support (Clear) was able to get this pretty fast fixed.
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I used a tmobile SIM for a couple months to try out their network. It's pretty good in SF however I did have some problems with it when visiting family out of town and I had zero signal on a while traveling I-5 on a road trip I did to Las Vegas last week.
T-Mobile should be called MetroPCS becuase their network stops to be useable outsite any major metro area. MetroPCS had LA to LV covered with their slow 4GLTE but Tmo has not been able to convert it along the I-15 yet
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LOL, what people do these days for cheap Internet.
But honestly, $120/yr, I would love to know what their wholesale rate is.
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Your own quote above says they provide service exclusively to schools and non-profits...
That was my first impression too but it seems they opend the system a bit depending on your zip code. Let's see what happens because you can bring old Clearwire equipment to their service and I still have an old hotsopt in reserve.
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I stumbled across Mobile Citizen previously and was under the impression this was for non-profit organizations. Has something changed?
Not sure but I will try to sign up after the Holidays :-)
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The lease is just to broadcast over said airwaves, the airlink matters little.
As long as it covers the same or more people they will maintain the floor of pops covered for use in BRS. EBS is a lease from the current license holders, so I imagine they have no essential use it or lose it time/coverage stipulation unless this is spelled out in that lease. They could simply use LTE instead. It is a more stable, and as in the name longer term technology. Fazing out Wimax to free these airwaves is the best utilization for future capacity, speed, and growth.
Unless, again, of course this lease stipulates a certain technology to support a license holder as well. I.e. Sprint gets to use the license if they provide a carrier to a university or institution, but better to just upgrade that carrier. So I sure see it as being phased out. Sooner the better, as the company has stated they will.
That would be good to know because I looked it up for several markets and Las Vegas is one served by CM. Still their price is really great and from what I have seen, pretty much every person quilfies for their service. $120/yr for unlimited Internet would be really great. Brings back memories of my $3.33/month Boost Berry with Free Data :-)
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I found this while looking at FreedomPop's site and followed some of the links. It seems like that FP is part of connect2compete.org and they offer services for schools and other non-profits via mobilecitizen.org.
Now I found this on their website:
Mobile Citizen's wireless broadband is powered by WiMAX, a 4G technology from CLEAR. In 2006, CLEAR entered into a 30-year excess capacity agreement with the five EBS licensees which established Mobile Citizen. This agreement allows Mobile Citizen to offer advanced mobile broadband service exclusively to schools and nonprofits, helping to further learning and productivity by providing internet access beyond the classroom or office. Mobile Citizen has been providing its low-cost mobile Internet services since 2009.
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Now their prices are really great and $120 for unlimited Internet is not bad. But will they transistion to LTE eventually or will Sprint / Clearwire keep some WiMax runnung which covers their EBS licensees?
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You can bring any Sprint phone to Voyager Mobile and they activate it fully incl. Spark. I bought an LG2 and the phone works great for an unlimited $39 plan. The only negative site with them, prices are going up in January.
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I would recommend Voyager Mobile (www.voyagermobile.com) and they offer Unlimited Talk, Text and unthrottled Data for $39/month. You get all what you have with a Sprint direct contract with the exception of Data Roaming. I drive from Nevada to the Bay Area a lot and I roam in MetroPCS, Cricket and even Verizon for voice.
Works great and I get the same speeds as my contract Sprint phone.
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Still standing outside in city limits waiting for Tmobile voice signal.
They can't even provide 3G data coverage in major coridors like LA to Las Vegas. You have to love 2G data...
I guess TMO is the "new" MetroPCS :-)
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Thanx, hog...have you stopped using Wimax all together, then?; my
tri-fi comes up for upgrade in 20 days and I'm leaning towards the
Zing but wonder if that's wise given lack of LTE south of the 215..
What are your thoughts on this?
Not at all, and I still love Clearwire until they go one day. They still provide basic needs and I am fine with the speeds I am getting for my work. LTE is nice and I have enjoyed it with Verizon for since 2010 but WiMax still is a good network
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Not sure what Windows phone update you are thinking of, but most iOS and Android apps are only a couple of megs in size and many of them only use a handful of megs. I'm not looking for an exclusive Internet connection. I am talking about pulling out the iPad once in a whole to browse a Web page or check some emails. My wife has an app on her iPod that is iOS only that we use for our trips to Disney that allows you to browse all the menues and such. None of that would use more than a few megs here and there. I'm not looking to do bit torrent or hack the NSA database with a hot spot.
I just updated two apps in the morning and both were about 40MB. So that would be 40% of your 100MB free. Just do yourself the favor. You can test this via Ting or install a data counter on your phone and you see what you use.
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Really? Where? Seems good one minute and then a day or two later in the same location..nothing..
Sensorly maps have not changed much in 4-6 months as far as I can tell...still loads of light shades of purple
I tried in North Las Vegas and it worked just fine. I am actually tethering right now without any problems. I will try to map later some speeds when I drive home
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I was looking at the website. Once they have an LTE hotspot, I am totally in. WiMAX is so poor here, so I can't justify $99 for a modem. LTE penetrates just about every building I've been in and is available nearly everywhere I've been. I can see that being extremely useful for anyone to use. Definitely keeping my eye on this. If not, I've been keeping my eye on freedom pop, as well. I am just looking for a low cost way to be able to use my wife's iPod touch or bring a tablet along once in a while for email and simple app usage while on vacation. I just can't justify the high cost of adding hotspot to my Sprint account. If they offered something like 0-$5/month for 100 Megs, that'd be pretty cool. I don't look to go overboard with a hotspot, but just be able to use a few iOS only apps once in a blue moon or check a website when I am away.
Edit: Look what I just found, this is crazy awesome news. I may be getting this after all.
I was looking at the website. Once they have an LTE hotspot, I am totally in. WiMAX is so poor here, so I can't justify $99 for a modem. LTE penetrates just about every building I've been in and is available nearly everywhere I've been. I can see that being extremely useful for anyone to use. Definitely keeping my eye on this. If not, I've been keeping my eye on freedom pop, as well. I am just looking for a low cost way to be able to use my wife's iPod touch or bring a tablet along once in a while for email and simple app usage while on vacation. I just can't justify the high cost of adding hotspot to my Sprint account. If they offered something like 0-$5/month for 100 Megs, that'd be pretty cool. I don't look to go overboard with a hotspot, but just be able to use a few iOS only apps once in a blue moon or check a website when I am away.
Edit: Look what I just found, this is crazy awesome news. I may be getting this after all.
Sorry but one little Windows update and your 100MBs are history. Just watch your phone (any standard phone regardless if Windows, Android or Apple) and the amount needed to keep every app up to date
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Wimax is still King as far as I'm concerned here in the LV metro area..lots of NV accepted towers..great 3G but very little consistent & usable LTE sorry to say....can't wait for Spark to become reality here!
I have seen progress in speed and now see usable Sprint LTE speed between 10-15MB down and about 5MB up. Not too bad for a jump from zero in just a few days.
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Limited to a point yes..i am a ham radio license holder..
HOwever this shortage is mostly manufactured by the fact ALL of the wireless companies are sitting on large swaths of spectrum. Modern technology is driving wireless growth BUT it will also drive efficiencies as well. You are so right about that and considering Sprint's "new" Clearwire spectrum which has not even been fully utilized. They have so much spectrum and I hope they start using the service and yes it would support home Internet services and I would not mind to be limited to 5-10MB. Honestly, I don't need 70+ MB download speed in my line of work.
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If the business model worked, Clearwire would still be in business and would have thrived. Sprint saved it from bankruptcy several times. And now it has a different use for the assets it acquired. If it wasn't for Sprint, Clearwire would have been bankrupt in 2011. And you wouldn't have had the last two years of high speed wireless internet. However, that gravy train ends with the end of the WiMax network. It is what it is.
People who are on the receiving end of a good deal never want to see it go away. We understand. But it is.
Robert
I am not sure if with the proper funding and the right execution of network deployment Clear would have been able to make it as provider. Their network is good if you are covered and their speeds will do for all day use regardless if for personal or business. The entire relationship between Sprint and Clearwire and the lack of additional support from founding partners made it difficult. Clearwire lacked the funding and Sprint wasn't able to provide it too.
Hesse even admitted that without Clearwire, they could have not launched any type of 4G service at the time.
Lets see what will happens and I am still loving the unlimited Clear buffet,
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HOwever this shortage is mostly manufactured by the fact ALL of the wireless companies are sitting on large swaths of spectrum. Modern technology is driving wireless growth BUT it will also drive efficiencies as well. 
Sprint to Shut Down Wimax by End of 2015 (Was Wimax network shut-off date?)
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I would not be able to work from home if Clear would be gone tomorrow and I hope Sprint will keep them on air beyond 2015. I wish cable or telco would be able to provide Internet in useable speeds or actually provide broadband speeds but we are out of luck in the sticks.