strung

post paid has more base. but pre paid has more growth

Pre-Paid is the new rage

ting.com and Straight Talk.

People are more willing to buy devices since the plans don't include a "phone on layaway". Hopefully this will propel the Nexus line

And lots of people are buying iPhones full price to use on T-mobile. So it's turning around in the US that people are getting used to the idea

Wow this tablet is weak.

what about people that don't have home internet?

Just throwing around some numbers. If you have a, lets say, 10 Mbps LTE connection (yes I know it can be faster or slower), the most data you could use (e.g. saturating it) per month is 3,000 GB or about 3 TB anyway.

On my 20 kbps 3G connection, if I saturated it I could still use only 6 GB a month.

The only way Wifi offload would work is if Sprint offers incentives (e.g. discounts) to off-loaders, or forces it (via handset software or threatening to terminate service), or institutes data caps.

Otherwise, if Sprint is faster than people's Wifi people will use Sprint and turn off Wifi. It's all about incentives. Econ 101 and /thread

Wow, lack of svdo & svlte is a deal breaker for me. Bummed HD voice is incompatible too. Guess it'll be awhile before VoLTE comes to fruition in the US.

I have a hunch that the camera (and to a lesser extent the display--resolution, color accuracy, etc.--and camera/filter/photo editing apps) is what sells the iPhone. Ever since the 4 and in particular the upgraded camera on the 4S, the iPhone sales really have taken off.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/sprint-confirms-hd-voice-incompatible-with-iphone-5/

Sprint confirms its HD Voice is incompatible with the iPhone 5

The 4S failed to impress, but then sales catapulted AAPL sky-high.

Money talks; pubes walk. -Ali G

Hopefully Opus codec will be deployed for HD Voice some day.

I am not gonna lie, in my opinion the ip5 design is by far the best looking out of all the iphones so far. I think it looks very classy with the two tone look on the back.

/agree

I might go to the iPhone 5 from the Galaxy S III

Also, unrelated, I hope Opus Codec is added to LTE Voice or HD Voice or whatever in the future.

3g SVDO? they didn't specify

I suspect VZW and ATT will randomly offer "double data" promotions to keep/gain subscribers as needed.

I get poor call quality on the Verizon Galaxy S III in places where Sprint worked great on the Nexus S 4G and the iPhone.

I get poor call quality (dropouts and garbledness) where it's about -100 dBm or less, especially jumping around -105 to -111. I'm just curious why, and I feel like Sprint has just better call quality in general. My GS3 in unusable for phone calls in my house on Verizon, but the iPhone on Sprint was fine. The house is stucco over wire mesh so I don't expect wireless to work well in the house.

No, I am not bashing W-CDMA for T-Mobile's failings. I am bashing W-CDMA, period. And lest I be thought of as a Monday morning quarterback, I have been consistent in this position for years.

Just curios, why do you dislike W-CDMA?

On 10 shares I'm already $20 ahead, so I'm happy. I can't wait for it to go over $6/share so I can get my original investment back, and maybe a few dollars more.

 

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Congratulations on your newfound fortune!!!!! :jester: :jester: :jester: :w00t:

I'm thinking if they can't sustain unlimited, they'll go to a limited model but with reasonable per-GB charges. Which most people would be happy with, you wouldn't have to think too much about it, and it wouldn't be a bill-shock type thing.

Yeah but come on now...let's be real. We all know checking a few website, email, nav is just a blip compared to streaming video and downloading files (apps etc). We'd all love to be able to stream video 24x7 but it ain't gonna happen.

Remember in the 90's when long distance was expensive? I see data the same thing. It'll cost a pretty penny now but in 10 years it'll be practically free.

Like pyroscott said if there is no incentive to not use data, people will jam up the networks like we're all aware of on a certain carrier. It's like having free roads...the roads get jammed up with cars b/c there's no costs (other than gas and your time). Paying for data is like having toll roads.

I think more than anything, it's that LTE begs to be used. Low pings, great speeds, it just wants to be unleashed. It's a wireless multimedia beast. However, with data caps I feel restricted and only end up doing things I could do just fine with 1Mbps. What a let down.

 

Robert

Exactly! I just learned that the phenomenon is referred to as "induced demand". A similar thing happens when more highways are built and traffic actually increases.

Looks like you can get 12 GB of Shared Data on a Verizon plan (e.g. a mobile hotspot) for $90. Then you could use some VoIP app on the phone connected to the hotspot.

I have to say now with almost a month of using a Verizon LTE hotspot that data caps really stink. I have not exceeded the 4GB on my plan. However, it is extremely annoying and even produces slight anxiety every time I need to use data.

 

I'm always wondering, how much data do I think this activity will use? How much have I used in this billing period? How much more data do I think I am going to use the remainder of the billing period? Then I run off to the Verizon site and check my usage meter.

 

Its almost like I need to do a cash flow analysis (except it's a data flow analysis) every day and meter myself. And now I never want to stream anything at all, fearful it may use too much data. It's awful.

 

Even my family is sick of it. I became a data nazi. When we all were connected to it in South Dakota on vacation, I was always quizzing everyone, "what are you doing right now? You better not be streaming anything!" They all kept asking, "when are we going to be back to Sprint coverage? This sucks." My kids and my wife are used to doing just whatever they want to. They didn't even like the speeds in relation to being managed.

 

Unlimited data is a wonderful thing. Like Ron Popeil says, "just set it and forget it!". I'm really looking forward to Sprint having unlimited data on a much better network. Because data caps just plain suck!

 

Now to call my therapist regarding my new anxiety disorder...

 

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Dude I'm right there with you 100%. I ported to Verizon GSIII on the 2GB / month plan and thinking about porting back to Sprint. I used 0.72GB the first week, and I'm afraid to use YouTube or stream anything, for fear I might need to stream something. Though VZ has the best data coverage in Dakotas / MN / WI. Can't win.

Interesting! So if you have:

1) iPhone or iPod touch $199

2) FreedomPop $99

3) Google Voice (free)

4) Talkatone (free) - which lets you use Google Voice to make and receive calls

Congratulations...you now have free data, voice and text.

I live in a stucco house (so it has stucco over that metal chicken wire), over concrete block. On Verizon 4G LTE I get 355ms, 0.56Mbps down, 0.38Mbps up.

On Sprint 4G I'd get 5 to 10Mbps only when putting the phone in the windows, and about 0.5 to 1 Mbps elsewhere in the house. Sprint 3G in the house I get 40 kbps to 200 kbps down.

Metal buildings are de facto Faraday cages. The frequency hardly matters -- the metal will absorb or reflect the signal.

 

AJ

Good to know!