htabbach

No. That is not typical. But there are already areas that need a second carrier. High traffic areas in Dallas, Houston and Chicago especially. Sprint is deploying additional LTE carriers in three bands to improve speeds.

 

Even Verizon speeds were plummeting below 1Mbps in many areas. They are deploying a second carrier now too.

 

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Cool, thank you

This is not a question specific to Tucson but I arrived to Dallas today with my new iPhone 5S and although LTE is everywhere the speeds I have seen so far are anywhere between 400k and 4mb down and 200k and 4 mb up, I was sitting inside a restaurant and my LTE brought down 600k while my friend VZ brought down 23 MB, are these the speeds we should expect from Sprint? Not a rant but truly an honest question.

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I am getting LTE signal strength of -102dB, but I am hundred feet away from the tower on the far east of Houghton, since the signal is not strong is it safe to assume I am not getting LTE from that tower?

The truncated Cell Identity (GCI) sucks, but I doubt we have GCIs for anything in that area anyway so it's not a big deal. The Physical Cell ID (PCI) is valid, however I don't see any information in this thread regarding that ID. I can't share info here gleaned from sponsor threads, so I can't confirm a whole lot for you. Drive a circle around the site you suspect it's coming from and see if you find PCIs separate from the one you've got by increments of 169 (452-169=283, 283-169=114). An RSRP better than -90 is a fairly good indicator that you're very close to the source of the signal too... or just donate to help keep S4GRU broadcasting

That's the problem, I don't know what site is broadcasting this signal, I though I was picking up LTE from the Harrison/Broadway tower because if I was picking up from the tower next to my house I would think I would have more than 2 bars.

1: Look at sensorly, you can pretty clearly see what's broadcasting.

2: The LTE Engineering link in my sig will get you into the serving cell info (hopefully)

3: Cross-reference serving cell info with info posted earlier in this thread or with the sponsor map.

Thank you, this is what my phone showed, also, in Sensorly, it only shows me the coverage map but nothing about sites

Hello guys, I was just wondering if anyone knows if the site way easy, east of broadway and houghton is broadcasting LTE, according to Sprint CS, they are but I am only picking up a weak signal and I live about 300 years from it. How do I know on the iPhone 5S which tower I am connecting to on LTE?

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Is the tower way east, east of houghton and Broadway broadcasting LTE? I live few hundred yards from that tower, and i do have LTE but I get only 3 bars and the signal does not seem to be strong. I just got an LTE phone so I am still learning what is going on in Tucson, thanks!

How can you tell on the iPhone if you are running on evdo or ehrpd?

Did anyone pick up lte on the east side? Broadway and Houghton area?

Any one have any new info about the lack of lte in tucson?

It seems nobody know why Tucson is cursed!

OK. When they are ALL Sprint LTE capable. :-)

 

Lateck,

You guys at least can taste LTE, I am here in east side tucson rocking 1x! Pathetic!

So quite here it is depressing lol

I knew the natives were restless (because I am too), but I must have seriously missed something based on the response. C'mon folks, nobody here can do anything to make Sprint, the vendors, the contractors, the subcontractors, the backhaul providers, or anyone else move any faster. LTE is already in our back yard with Casa Grande lighting up on Sensorly. Keep it civil for just a bit longer and we'll be in on the big secret too

Lol, wow, Casa Grande got it first? We are last then.

No love for Cincinnati, Columbus, Toledo, Dakotas, VT/NH/ME, UCV, LCV, Hawaii, Tucson/Yuma, and likely more. I'm working up the full list as we speak because I was already working on a spreadsheet to track progress and completion estimates for every market simultaneously...

 

htabbach, being whiney is understandable at this point, but please at least whine accurately. We're definitely not alone in this boat. Some states still have no LTE at all. At least AZ has gotten off that list.

Ok Smurf! I will whine accurately, I though my comment was clear that "every other market" meant the market that Sprint has been working on, markets that show on a regular bases in the accepted sites thread, looks like i needed to clarify.

Since last Friday, not one site has been accepted (even 3 G) in the Tucson market while every other market has had site accepted, pathetic!

You want to know what the hold up is? Be my guest and call up the backhaul providers and see what is taking so long.

 

Major mistakes? Yeah, WiMax didn't make it to your local area. Clear went bankrupt... Sprint couldn't have known that when they committed to WiMax. If you're going to blame someone for that, blame Clear.

 

Sprint learned from that, and brought everything in house now. With SoftBank backing, you can be sure any hold ups will be found unacceptable, and whatever is the issue, it must not be something that can be corrected easily, or LTE would be lighting up already.

I do not want to drag this debate any further, but my last thought, looks like Sprint is a perfect place to work, make mistakes and blame vendors. WiMax is Clear fault, LTE is Cox and CenturyLink, I am applying to work for Sprint tomorrow! Lol

Perhaps in a sense. But once the order is placed, they can nag and nag, but if Cox, or CentryLink drags their feet, is it really still Sprint's fault? Sprint dropped CenturyLink in New Mexico because they were dragging so much, but that's only put them even further behind schedule. 

I am sorry, I work in business and negotiate telecom contracts for my company and there is no way a vendor I pay money to provide service would drag their feet like this, and this is in a company that is way smaller than Sprint. I cannot for the life of me understand how Sprint exec team keep their jobs, from their CEO down. Too many major mistakes starting with the WiMax disaster!

Actually, Ehrpd does not mean that the equipment is there or that a tower is upgraded with NV equipment. Ehrpd is software on the servers for handouts from LTE to non LTE.  I believe it came after the Verizon fiasco of loosing calls when they started their LTE transition. 

And even if that was right it still does not mean anything to the consumer, my phone is with Sprint, not with Cox, not with CenturyLink, Sprint is ultimately responsible.

Wow, this is taking way so long! I do not even understand why! Not one LTE site? Not one?

I have a question, can we assume that we will not see better 3G speeds even if the tower is 3G accepted until LTE is accepted? And is that because when an LTE tower is accepted it means back hauls are installed and therefore 3G will be better as well?

This has nothing to do with anything. Sprint already has dozens of sites in the Tucson market with LTE equipment on it. They are awaiting backhaul. Cricket doesn't mean anything. And Cricket is in the process of being bought out by AT&T. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

Why is it taking so long to upgrade the backhaul?

I really am trying to be optimistic about this. Looks like they are actively working on towers again. I set a date of end of Sept to start seeing LTE here if not I would move on.  This gives me hope that it will happen sooner than that. 

 

right now, signal out of that tower where they were working off of Ave B and 20th street is very low. Voice calls are digitized and cutting out. I passed by there again and there was no one around. 

I am not very optimistic, I setup a deadline by the release of the next iPhone next month, if Sprint does not have some LTE in Tucson I am as good as gone.

Yes. All technology will go through the same fiber connection.

So on an approved LTE site, 3G should be good too, right?

Couple things to consider here. You have an iPhone 4s which is not capable of using the LTE network.

 

Dallas' LTE network is well deployed, but that is only half of NV.

 

The other part, the 3G part, is still ongoing in Dallas. Maybe half of sites have had 3G upgraded, and even then there's no guarantee that it's actually active. Until the whole market has had 3G upgrades applied, or you get an LTE phone, this is not a fair judgement to make.

Does 3G and LTE share the same backhaul on the same tower?

My trip to Dallas FW area was not encouraging! This is supposedly a NV announced city but the network state is just plain bad! Does not look good!