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It's a good service but I'm not sure if its for me. My city lacks wifi hotspots in alot of areas to the point where my nexis never connects to open wifi because there basically is not many here. So I use a lot of data. I'm on almost 3 gigs and I have only had the service for a week. On Sprint only I use 8-11gb a month. It would probably be more if Sprint worked well in the congested parts. Since T-Mobile does I have been using way more data without meaning too. I don't like T-Mobile for voice as the quality is terrible since it won't do volte on Project Fi. So I try to use T-Mobile for data and Sprint for voice. Still it's starting to get expensive. I'm at $48.70 which is not bad but at my current rate I will use 12gb in months time and I'm not trying to pay $140 for one lines service. It's a good second line service.

 

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That's what I'm using it as. Sprint line = main number everyone knows. Fi line = used for roaming data after my 300mb run out + eip nexus 6.

 

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How long until yours started to change? And I wonder why it initially prefers T-Mobile over Sprint?

 

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I was thinking that maybe the Sprint towers were congested at first but my issues occurred in a rural area at 5am. There was no way it was due to congestion. I did, however, contact CS about it and gave them the area that I was having issues with. It took about 2 weeks since then to really notice the change.

 

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So far mine stays on T-Mobile at all times still. Mostly on band 12 even if there is strong band 4. It will hold band 12 even if I pass a site with band 4 only and the band 12 signal starts to become bad.

 

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I experienced the same thing besides the b12. Even hspa+ over b41. It gets better!

 

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I've noticed after a few weeks using Fi that the switching between Sprint and T-mobile has gotten better. Whether that's due to backend changes or the network 'learning' the areas you frequent.

 

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Don't have to I put in the sim, installed Google fi, then rebooted the phone and it works. Latched on to T-Mobile.

 

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I think that fi will work on the n5 but it won't connect to Sprint. Or have wifi calling.

 

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I'll do it now but since my nexus 5 is now connected to my Sprint account it might not work.

 

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Do you have another sprint phone to temporarily activate? Or maybe put your n6 on your Sprint line?

 

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So far activating fi was easy and simple. I deactivated my nexus 6 online and used my nexus 5 to occupy the number. I had no issues like others reported after doing that. It liked to use Sprint for the longest time then it switched to T-Mobile and now its clinging to that. I don't know if it used volte but it uses hspa+ and CDMA no problem. I need to switch to the Google fi nexus image to get wifi calling to work. I will do that later. Love the care package too.

 

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Have you put the fi sim into your n5 yet?

 

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Does the nexus 5 have the USCC LTE bands?

Band 5 yes, but not 12. I don't think it'll work. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Nexus 6, yes.

 

Edit. Band 5 not 4

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I got my Fi invite today. I really wanted it at first, but the more I thought about it, I don't need the cash outlay for another number.

I accepted my invite and I'll be swapping sim cards out with my Sprint line.

 

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After hearing all of these issues with Google Fi, I've decided that even if I get an invite from them, I won't be using the service, unless the rate drops to $5 per gb from the current $10 per gb. At this rate, it doesn't seem that Google Fi will be much of a success.

 

Also, I'm hoping Sprint/Softbank will be able to buyout T-Mobile to help with site density and coverage. Especially considering the reported cost issues associated with building a massive macro network, where buyout of an existing one along with its subscribers, seems to be a better deal for me. I think Masa ought to be exploring workaround ideas to getting T-Mobile.

I'm no expert, but isn't there issues with the amount of spectrum that both companies own?

 

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Yes, I cancelled my Fi account today for that reason. It makes very poor decisions on which network to use, almost always attempting to hold onto a faint T-Mobile signal when a strong sprint signal is available.

I'm still going to wait it out. I've got a week and a half left on the return period. I may pause the service, pay for the phone in the instalments and transfer it to my Sprint line. The only thing that I LOVE is roaming is unlimited, data wise. That's nearly enough to keep me. Maybe what I could do is pause the service, then when my Sprint allowed 300mb of roaming data is used up (I work in a place where I there is no native coverage), turn the Fi back on and maybe tether my N5 to my N6. I'm still undecided.

 

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Maybe it cant change as fluid as we thought it could. I notice tmobile sticks with either band 12 or band 4 no matter how many times you airplane mode it. It will have a 118dbm before it switches to band 12 and once it switches it stays there regardless of what you do including restarting your phone or even a profile update. Sprint switches flawlessly most of the time.

 

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Unfortunately, t-mobile doesn't have the 700mhz spectrum in my area. US Cellular has it all. So I'm stuck to band 4. I believe I saw somewhere that it takes a bit for the signals to 'learn' or adapt to the areas signals. We'll see if that holds true.

 

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Interesting. I know where I stay Sprint is the signal champ but the speed chump. It will likely prefer tmobile most of the time. Yesterday my invite was 8-12 weeks and today its 1-2 weeks.

 

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Ahh the wait sucks haha. I'm still not sure if I'm going to stay with it. My primary sprint line is the ED1500. It'll be tough to choose.

 

As far as the signal issues, a quick toggle into airplane mode makes it connect to the Sprint signal. IIRC, it's about a -85 to -95 dBm signal. But the EDGE signal is -80 or so.

 

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Is Sprint fast in your area? If band 25 is congested I could see it going to hspa instead due to it likely not being as congested.

 

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I usually get 4-15mbps (I know that's quite the range) download around here. It is just starting to come online though. However, in the more rural parts of my morning commute, sprint is definitely stronger and most likely uncongested being as it's around 530am.

 

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I've tried. It's hard. Signalcheck pro doesn't update correctly. You have to manually open the map to see which band you're on. The notification icon doesn't update properly.

I received my Nexus 6 and Fi welcome kit on Tuesday. I've been testing it as my main phone (and using my Sprint number through Google voice on a secondary Google account) and some things are great, some not.

 

I haven't had signal check issues I don't think. But I've noticed that it likes to stay almost exclusively on t-mobile. Even with a strong band 25 presence, it stays on EDGE, OR W-CDMA. Have you noticed a GSM preference?

 

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At a certain zoom level, i see some bright purple.. But it should be the whole area lol. We'll see, hopefully it's starting to update again

I just hope I didn't map for nothing. Not that I drove particularly far but still.

 

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Having same problem, only thing that's mapping are speed tests :/

So some of my recent mapping has worked. I need to be way zoomed in on the map to see it.

 

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Clear data, try again. If still fails, uninstall reboot, reinstall.

 

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Hmm. I just did about 45 minutes of mapping nearby. I cleared data beforehand. Still nothing an hour later. I hope my efforts weren't in vain. Is this data lost?

Has anyone done any sprint tower mapping with Fi yet? I imagine it may be more challenging with T-mobile being available too. I suppose you could force the Sprint network.

 

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Yes. Despite containing thousands of entries, a PRL file is relatively tiny -- because it is entirely binary text. To interpret a PRL, the binary text has to be cross referenced against a known database of SIDs, then organized into a readable format. As I recall, Qualcomm's CDMA Workshop software may be a key piece in the process.

 

PRL interpretation used to be a popular online activity, and several individuals besides digiblur maintained PRL databases. But that seems to have fallen by the wayside, as users have grown tired of the process, ported to AT&T or T-Mobile, or stayed with VZW or Sprint but spent nearly all of their time on LTE.

 

AJ

Sounds sort of intriguing. How would one get a hold a known list of SIDs?

 

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Read the top post. Not pseudo native. S4GRU made that very clear.

 

AJ

Oh, yep. I'm dumb. Carry on.

 

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This pseudo native evdo means what exactly? When I'm connected to US Cellular and on their EV-DO, is that counting as roaming data or native data?

 

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When I talked to Fi support they said there is no roaming even for voice

 

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Well, surely we can get someone to confirm of deny this.

 

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There is no roaming

 

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Huh. I just got off the Fi tech support chat asking the same question. They said that Fi roams on the same partners that Sprint and T-mobile does and that there are no limits. I saw somewhere else that they allow roaming but just at a much much slower speed.

 

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What has been people's experience with data roaming? Are there limits? Overage fees? Etc? This is one of the things holding me back. Also, I'm trying to force myself to wait until October/November when the next Nexus devices come out, hoping for a Nexus 5 reboot.

 

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