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What failures occurred with it? I thought it was successful, at least it seems so from reading around here.

In spring 2014 sprint sent mass texts to markets where the network was "nv done" but speeds were still unusable.

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Your posts are very long and hard to get through. From what I gather you are on unlimited my way and purchased a $200 subsidy discounted phone, nexus 6 I think it was. You could have went with the $50 (iPhone) or $60 unlimited plan and either bought a much cheaper phone on easy pay or leased one with no down payment.

 

On the extreme end, you could have gotten the sharp aquos crystal for $5 a month on easy pay since it was on sale and pay $1560 over two years vs $2120 on unlimited my way with that nexus 6. Or you could have leased an iPhone 6 for a total two year cost of $1680 with $0 down up front.

 

You could have also went with a much cheaper mvno on Sprint such as boost, virgin, republic etc. Something to keep in mind, if you do manage to switch to framily you will pay an extra $15 a month service charge for having that subsidized phone on a non subsidy plan.

 

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And another thing to add to the above: you're in sprints best market!:

2.5, 800, two b25 carriers all deployed.

Chicago is sprint's flagship market like NYC is TMO's.

Why would you switch to any other carrier?

Because your phone lost signal for a few hours? Could've been phone or network problem but not a reason to switch.

Sprint has provided multiple price points to enjoy their service as travis stated:

$30 for 2GB on boost all the way to truly unlimited for $60/line (for androids).

You even have the option to do the framily thing if you're ok with jumping through hoops a bit.

TMO has slowing speeds in Chicago. One day a total stranger saw my twitter posts about TMO and stated that speeds were slowing down fast in Chicago.

Compare the two previous rootmetric speeds for TMO in chi: avgs fell from 18mbps to 14mbps. It may be below 10mbps for 1H2015, we shall see.

I'm on tmo in Detroit metro and here, TMO has gobs of spectrum but Chicago? I don't recommend TMO based on what I know about TMO's Chicago network.

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Your posts are very long and hard to get through.

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Yep. Please less unnecessary formalism. Your posts sound like a script for alfred from batman.

Will help everyone trying to read your posts. Thanks.

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If money is so tight, you could have easily

 

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What does that have to do with anything?

 

-Anthony

He stated that cincy has slow speeds and I replied that it's because of amount of spectrum a carrier has.

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Again, as I don't want to sign up on T4GRU, I'll respond to what I read on that link here instead. Although, thank you lou99 for posting it.

 

I think T-Mobile is beginning to realize their limitations, especially as I've read on TMONews yesterday (a site I personally do not like, but read anyways, as it still is the best source for T-Mobile news currently, though I try to avoid the bias as much as I can, despite it being difficult and upsetting when unavoidable)  the article about Cincinnati. Many people there, even die hard TMo fans, were complaining about the minimal speed improvements made there by T-Mobile recently. Some of the speed numbers were very unimpressive and resemblant to the Chicago market's speeds, at least those I've experienced around here. I've said before they were fast enough/good enough with MetroPCS, but certainly not the kind T-Mobile and their fans often tout about when speaking generally about their network, despite when it comes to specifics, they become more conservative, such as in the Cincinnati article.

 

The big issue is the lack of 700mhz in certain markets, which makes me think T-Mobile secretly got desperate enough to but from Verizon. I read an article on some website dated from a few years ago that T-Mobile at that time had no interest in purchasing the 700mhz from Verizon. Yet, they went ahead and bought it, despite only covering certain portions of their network. Why? I think it would have been better to save that money and had more purchasing power in the AWS auction, so they could enhance their current network with it, rather than having to do more work getting a totally new spectrum band onto the small areas where they now have it, leaving behind other areas of their network totally void of that band, giving a huge difference in network quality between those markets with 700mhz and those without it. Chicago being one of them, and had T-Mobile the extra cash available, they could have bought more AWS spectrum throughout their network, rather than satisfying just a portion of it with a much enhanced network other markets are now without completely.

 

Metropcs could not reach a signal through a simple plate of glass window, where I sit feet away from, hardly deep building penetration necessary. Yet Sprint got through deep concrete walls at Medieval Times. Shows Sprint as being the Data Stronger Network.

1) More spectrum = more speed. No one doubts this statement.

In Cincinatti, TMO has:

5x5 AWS hspa

10x10 PCS LTE (up from 5x5 LTE)

5x5 HSPA

5x5 GSM

In other markets, TMO has 25x25 AWS and 15x15 LTE and is faster than Sprint.

2) Chicago is a dense market so yeah, 10x10 LTE is not gonna be enough. 

In Chicago, TMO has:

10x10 AWS LTE

5x5 AWS HSPA (to be shutdown and refarmed to LTE in July, 2015 resulting in 15x15 AWS LTE)

10x10 PCS HSPA

5x5 GSM

Sure they could densify like NYC and they probably will. Until then speeds are gonna be sucky.

3) TMO needed low-band LTE spectrum given that even Sprint had 5x5 nationwide. 

Desperate? Sure that's fair.

But are you saying that if Verizon had owned 700a nationwide, it would've been ok to purchase it but because ownership was split among Verizon and other speculators then it's a waste of time to purchase it, one owner at a time?

4) TMO spent $3.315B cash & spectrum on Verizon 700a including $2.365B in cash

http://investor.t-mobile.com/Cache/1001182112.PDF?Y=&O=PDF&D=&fid=1001182112&T=&iid=4091145

Tmobile spent $1.77B on AWS-3 while Verizon =  $10B, Dish = $13B, ATT = $18B.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/aws-3-auction-results-att-leads-182b-verizon-104b-dish-10b-and-t-mobile-18b/2015-01-30

An extra $2.365B would've made no difference and it wouldn't have addressed a key complaint among magentans: lack of in-building coverage.

5) They're not leaving behind anyone. They've purchased additional 700a since the VZW transaction they'll purchase more if the price is right.

http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum

6) Chicago has a ch51 station whose interference, with the 700a block, probably can't be addressed until after the 600 auction. Therefore it's a waste of money to buy the spectrum from the owner - att - until the interference can be resolved.

7) Metropcs: apples to oranges. Metro never bad low-band anything.

The fact that sprint can penetrate "deep concrete walls at Medieval Times" shows Sprint as having low-band LTE. 

The reason why Sprint has nationwide low-band spectrum is because it paid $36B for Nextel in 2005.

Modification to Chicago aws hspa shutdown and date for LA's shutdown.

http://www.t4gru.com/index.php?/topic/49-aws-hspa-shutdown-and-resulting-implications/?p=846

Up to now, we have knowledge of following being shutdown this year:

Indianapolis

Louisville, KY

Chicago

LA

Did anyone see this?

 

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-claure-weve-got-enough-money-attract-customers-and-improve-our-netw/2015-05-05

Already discussed in "Q1 earnings" thread.

The only reason I'd jump on this and be a deadbeat dad to my "randomly assembled via the Internet" Framily would be because I have two kids who will eventually need one of the 10 lines that are occupied with my Framily.

 

I'm all for saving money with my 25% corporate discount, but if I have to surrender that for larger per-line savings, it'd be worth it.

I wonder what spribt's strategy is for framily or if they want to push people off it.

Death by obscurity is good tactic but unless they kill it, it'll live on forever!

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Capex spend cannot out pace performance from vendors ability to supply nor installers ability to install. Only so much can be done. Also, after a certain point you may be able to push more, but the cost may not be worth it. Cost benefit analysis.

 

There's so much more at play and the capex burn amount is much more dynamic than you realize. It is easy to believe spend more money equals more production faster. But sometimes that cannot be done for other reasons.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Sprint expedite more work this year. But this NGN plan has been a part of the internal discussion and equation since Marcelo took over. They don't want to waste money on any effort that will be duplicated by NGN, unless it has to. Sprint could waste a lot of money it can't spare. Every dollar counts.

 

These decisions are being made by Marcelo and Masa, after being vetted by John Saw. This is not the old Sprint. I feel pretty comfortable that these decisions are as aggressive as makes sense. These guys are not milk toast and do not easily accept no for an answer.

 

Also, Sprint is expanding. You know that. But not everywhere and not all at once. Tmo is doing the same thing with their expansion. Very targeted.

 

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I guess the decrease in churn validates their strategy.

Because it was "The Merger Office." It would take years to plan and integrate Tmo and Sprint, even after approval. Involving thousands of people. He not only was working on merger approvals, but technical planning involved. Site by site analysis, network integration, marketing, product development. And not only was he thinking how to integrate Tmo and Sprint together, but likely a big integration with Softbank in many ways too.

 

It was going to be a monumental undertaking in every way. It was going to be the largest wireless merger ever, if approved. It was going to take a big facility. And I wouldn't be surprised if Masa even had the plan to even eventually make it the future combined Tmo/Sprint HQ.

 

But all that was washed away. And it probably took some time and humble pie for Masa to let that all sink in. And you only offer up pure conjecture that no one is buying. Masa's explanation makes sense, is plausible and the most simple explanation and in context works.

 

Yours is just a dead end conspiracy theory. Further bolstered by your own desire to even want it to be true. In fact, you are letting the fact that you want it to be true so much that you will overlook all other evidence that does not support your theory.

 

 

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Merger office makes sense.

What other evidence?

I don't get why Sprint doesn't continue to expand 2.5ghz coverage. Wouldn't more capex help with that like with hiring more people? Or poaching them away from other companies?

Yes Sprint is densifying 2.5 instead of expanding but why not do both? Lack of people? Then increase capex to hire more.

These examples shouldn’t surprise anyone. After all, the President’s own Small Business Administration warned the FCC last year that its proposed rules would unduly burden small businesses. And yet the FCC decided to treat each and every small, scrappy broadband provider as if it were an anticompetitive industrial giant.The FCC still has a chance to heed these calls and stay the effect of President Obama’s plan to regulate the Internet. But I doubt this will happen. That’s because moving forward with this plan isn’t about logic, the law, or marketplace facts. It’s about fulfilling a political imperative.

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2015/db0507/DOC-333383A1.pdf

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Closing of the CA Office was a year ago and only indicative of the failure to purchase Tmo. That's all it indicates. Afterward, Masa has made moves and made statements regarding a doubling down on Sprint only and hired Marcelo. Nothing indicative of surrender.

 

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The article is dated dec 2014.

Question is why would the loss of TMO cause him to shutdown office?

TMO would've brought

Money - from synergies of combining two companies

More money - from removing a competitor and gaining market power to be able to not offer unlimited data anymore.

Spectrum - pcs, AWS

But none of these is revolutionary

If son had bought TMO first and been denied spribt's 2.5ghz then yeah it'd make sense to close down an innovation office.

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So how do you go from that to Son isn't willing to pump money into Sprint if they need it? That is still a huge logical leap with nothing to support it in your underlined portion.

It shows softening of his commitment at very least unless you can give a good reason why he'd close the office so soon.

Do you agree that it was because of the TMO merger failure?

We shall see for the 600 auction.

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Because he didn't need it. Just because he closed down an office building doesn't mean he's selling Sprint. You really need to get past this idea that you have.

 

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Sprint (NYSE: S) parent SoftBank plans to clear out most of the staff of its Silicon Valley offices, according to a Reuters report, following SoftBank's aborted effort to merge Sprint with T-Mobile US (NYSE:TMUS).

The report, citing unnamed sources familiar with the matter, said that the downsizing of the office in San Carlos, Calif., reflects a decision within SoftBank that the company will not be trying to forge a deal with T-Mobile anytime soon. SoftBank opened the office in September 2013, shortly after it closed its deal to acquire a controlling stake in Sprint.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/report-softbank-wind-down-silicon-valley-offices-following-collapse-t-mobil/2014-12-12

Yeah shutting down an outpost office in California clearly means Masa is throwing in the towel...

He opened it because he thought he was compete in a cozy 3 carrier environment.

He closed it because?

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Both T-Mobile's and Sprint's financial condition is not rosy. Neither is laden with cash and both are laden with debt.

Given the closure of the cali softb offices, I think son pumping more money is not likely.

Furthermore, even if other 3 want to buy 2.5ghz Tdd, they're not stupid enough to do so before the 600 auction to strengthen sprint.

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Almost exactly the same surprisingly I don't know if there is data hogs in my city or what but Sprint data consistency is not as high as the other 3. Check sensorly in 34471 and you will see the differences are huge. Worst thing is every tower has band 25/26. Voice is amazing but unless its night time data is just not consistent downloads are slow, music is doing better but still has buffer moments and videos buffer too. I went to Sprint today and they had 9 employees and 1 customer. I asked why and they said the speeds suck. Could have lost his job tellinge that for all I know.

Whenever I go in to check the speeds, there's at least one customer (and 3 employees); corporate store, big intersection.

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My city is a non spark market as well and I get .05-4mbps on average with certain towers thanks to density getting over 10. It is not common though Very often YouTube only plays in 360p at best with no buffer.

What are speeds without b26 (if you can force it off)?

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I hadn't realized there was such a thing as a "True LTE Experience" being tied to a particular network band. I often get around 15mbps indoors with Sprint on B26, which is a higher speed than Verizon advertises for its typical LTE "experience".

Burr Ridge, Oak Brook are Spark areas meaning that most of the traffic is on b41, some on b25 and the rest on b26 so of course you're gonna have high b26 speeds.

If you can disable b41 and then b26 on your phone, let me know how your experience is.

Now that I think of it, this is really Q1 results, not necessarily Q2. Oops.

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No. Ocean has been funded for some time. Mostly last year and this year.

 

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That is for the next gen network build...

 

Network Vision is tainted. It's been associated with false promises, missed goals, massive delays, and losses of millions of subscribers.

 

NGN is now Marcelos personal project and the new branding of NV and he will be the one to blame if it goes bad and he will be the one that everyone will applaud when it goes well. He now directs how and where he wants the network equipment to be deployed but the underlying foundation already exists.

 

Legere didn't one man deploy tmobiles modernization project. The foundation for tmobiles rise has been there all along and they just needed someone to be the face of it while the engineers worked in the background.

Does ngn include project ocean et al?

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What I don't get is that these analysts seem to have missed is the 5 billion doesn't include the next gen network build.

Which means that it won't start until FY2016

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Aren't we already talking about Moffet's speculation? Sprint can still do a lot more refinancing, debt offerings, Softbank capitalization. Or, or just maybe, Sprint will reverse its finances over the next six quarters. Cash flow improving.

 

Sprint burning the cash is needed. Especially the capex portion. If they were spending less, Moffet would be bitching about them not spending enough on capex and marketing. I see through his bullish!t. That's why most analysts have a different take. And if you look at Moffet's takes on Sprint in the past, he's been pretty off with his dire gloom and doom projections.

 

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I knew this would happen if I included Moffet's name in that quote! lol

It's worth speculating HOW Sprint will obtain more $ because, for example, if it sells 2.5 then, as known, it has to decide to whom to sell it as that will enable their competition.

Who's the least dangerous to sell to?