mayford5

G2 is awesome except for slight static via bluetooth in vehicles at louder volumes, and signal connectivity isn't as strong as let's say the Nexus 5, but that's only because the Nexus 5 is a beast. G2 has great battery life and it runs any games I throw at it easily. If you're into modding your device, the G2 has some options, but not as many as the Nexus 5.

 

The Nexus 5 has great RF performance and it's also a beast at running anything you throw at it (gaming wise), however, the battery life is shorter than the G2s. (It'll be slightly better than the LGOG you currently have in battery life.)

 

The Flex is a very new device so I'm not sure how it runs with RF, but it does use the same Snapdragon 800 chipset and the screen resolution is 720p so it'll actually run faster than the N5/G2 because it has less pixels to push for performance, however, it is a 720p screen so if you're wanting 1080p then this device isn't optimal. (The LGOG has a 720p screen.) The battery life on the Flex is going to be INSANE. Literally.

 

Hope I helped.

Yes you did. I will probably stick with the g2 for the price and the battery life. I like to play with roms but don't really have the time any more with school,work,and family. Would love to throw down the cash for the flex but i think i will wait for the next generation of flexy phones before i own one. The unknown is fun but not when i depend on it like i do.

Thanks all.

That is not a problem with the handset (all Tri-band devices), it's a problem with the towers being upgraded.  There (from what we have been told and have seen) has been a shift from rushing to get "a" tower 4G accepted to getting them fully up and running on the NV hardware which includes the Base station, RRU's and Antenna first, then accepting them as 3G and 3G/800 voice towers.  That enables the Tri-band devices to actually use that tower once it is 4G LTE accepted as the eCSFB software can be loaded. 

 

Now, I live in a market that they had only done half a dozen 4G only towers before the NV Team (people that call the shots) had the revelation that they really need to NOT deliver like that and need to upgrade "up to" the point of 4G LTE first, you know, the all new "Spark" network and all.  So they brought everything up (which was pretty crazy with legacy equipment being turned off and new NV being turned on for ALL Sprint users to utilize) such as 3G/800 voice on most towers in a relatively short period of time.  Now, when we get a LTE accepted tower, the eCSFB software patch is typically pushed to the tower anywhere between 12 and 48hr. 

 

 

Sounds like I am going to pull the trigger on the G2 then.  My LGOG is getting pretty rough looking.  Thanks guys(and gals if any)

So did they fix some of the issues with the radios or software of the G2?  I believe they had an article a while back on the main wall about it.

Here

Circuit Switched Fallback I believe is what they called what they were incompatible with.

Okay here is the deal.  I am due for an upgrade and I have had my eye on the G2 to replace my OG.

So I would like all opinions.  I like my LGOG but the keyboard has been horrible at predictions and really horrible at auto correct.  Are these things better on the G2 or the Flex or did you just end up purchasing Swype anyway.

The G2 is cheap and the Flex is not bad either but for $40 more than the Flex I can get a Note3.  Is the Flex worth the price you are paying Vs the G2 or the Note3?  

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thank you

Andrew

A friend of mine sent me the list and I can tell you it's the real deal.  None of the phones on the list are like to like when compared to the EVO LTE.  The S3 may be slightly better than the EVO but the listed phones are WELL below specs. 

 

The worst part is I trusted Sprint that this phone would perform like it should when LTE came to my area.  LTE has made it worse.  Now the phone is doing hard handoffs from 3G to 4G disconnecting my data service.  Most of the time it wants to stay in 1X.  I have written HTC, spoken to Sprint, and emailed them last night.  I'm really frustrated that I have to hang on to this phone until next May. I will wait until I get a email response and see what they say.  I just wish I had found this site before I bought the phone.  Folks here were ringing the alarms before it was released. 

 

I had the same issue.  I bought an LG Optimus G and sold the evo for $160 on ebay.  I bought the LGOG for $10 more so it wasn't bad but I was really frustrated that Sprint wouldn't even offer me a different phone even though I have the protection plan to the hilt.  I still say that the EVO isn't a bad phone it just has a bad LTE radio or something.

Now that being said I have had my LGOG for over a month now and as LTE has been growing in The Lou area I have been enjoying LTE all over the place.  I am picking up LTE in places that have had LTE but the EVO never even would pick it up even when I cycled it into airplane mode and back. I guess the LTE signal just wasn't strong enough don't know.  I did a few tests with the EVO just before I activated the LG and even in the strongest places in St. Louis it may detect it but two or three minutes and it would go right back to EVDO.  Airport was where I had the most issue with even discovering LTE.  Two days later after activating the LG did the same tests and everytime I was in an area listed by sensorly (even some that weren't) I had LTE and decent service.  I love HTC but I have found  that my wife's HTC One is still displaying some radio issues when on LTE.  It takes it almost twice the amount of time that my LG takes to acquire and sometimes I have to put it in airplane mode to find it.  Don't know if it is the programmers at HTC or if it is just me.  I think it is probably just me though.  I am the destroyer of all technology. 

I have been pulling close to 20mbs down in some places but on average about 12mbs.  I can't complain at all because everytime I go to the city now I have LTE and I know that when I use sensorly to track the different sites I notice that I am in an area that previously didn't have LTE service and new sites are coming online.  It is much easier to track now that I know the phone actually gets on to the LTE network properly and I no longer have the frustration of paying for a service that my phone didn't seem to enjoy being on.

As far as signal strength when on lte just go to settings, about, network.  There you will see a dbm rating.  In the past when connected to lte I have noticed my evo would drop the lte connection around -107 to -110(which no other phone on sprint does) just about every singe time.  To further compound the issue even when signal strength would increase the evo would still stay on 3g and would take a while(if ever) for it to connect to lte on its own without toggling airplane mode or resetting.  Since then there have been several firmware updates that addressed several issues including the lte connection issues.  The update basically increased the frequency in which the phone would scan for lte so in the event that lte would drop it wouldn't take long for the phone to reconnect to lte again.  There could have been some other software tweaks in other updates but from what I can tell it seemed like they just increased the scan time.  At this point I do think it's a hardware issue, the gs3 has the same chipset and didn't experience anything like this.

 

 

Agreed. So I really only have two options (If I want my phone to work on LTE). Pay the almost $300 plus phone cost for early upgrade and miss out on my Feb upgrade(in the chance that a really nice phone comes out by then I don't like this option) or buy a phone off of ebay and pray to God that it has a clean ESN and that the phone functions till Feb when my renewal is up. Sounds like a lose, lose for me. Just saying.

It has already been established that the evo does in fact have an lte connection issue and that issue mainly has to do with losing/reconnecting to lte at lower signal levels compared to other lte devices.   At one point most of us thought it was a software issue but it looks like it may be some sort of hardware flaw but in either case lte performance has increased substantially after several updates.

 

Now you made a comparison to your wife's One, keep in mind that the bars that show up only has to do with 1xrtt which is just your voice connectivity and has nothing to do with 3g evdo or 4g lte signal strength.  I currently own a One and I also own an evo and yes, the One is light years ahead of the evo when it comes to everything including lte connectivity so in the case where the wife had lte and you didn't could easily be a case where the lte signal is already pretty low but the One picks it up and holds it where as the evo stays on 3g.  The same could be said for your layover in DFW, the evo simply couldn't maintain that lower signal strenght being that the tower could have possibly been further away so it defaulted back to 3g. 

 

Now I am not defending the evo being that I have expressed my frustration(as well as many others) with this same issue since last summer but once my area got built out the issue has all but disappeared(for the most part).  So yeah, if the tower across the street gets lte then you shouldn't have the same issues connecting.  Now sprint isn't going to openly say there is an issue with the phone, they will more than likely say that the area isn't complete yet and things will slowly but surely improve over time, which technically is true but still somewhat misleading. 

 

Pretty sure I read that somewhere but didn't realize what it was referring to exactly.  So what is the best way to actually test how strong the signal is for LTE?  I would like something to support the signal strength theory and I would feel much more at ease with the situation if this is truly the case.  I'm not saying you aren't correct but from the standpoint on sensorly the DAL/FW airport has some pretty strong LTE from Sprint.  Check it out here.  Either way it doesn't make sense for them not to fix the issue if it is sofware related but if it requires a complete rebuild of the phone then I can see where that would be an issue.  My main issue is that Sprint knows about the problem and yet still continues to sell this phone and also refuses to acknowledge that it's messed up. 

The other bolded Item above.   What updates would those have been?  The software, Firmware, PRL?  I have the most updated of everything and it hasn't gotten any better at all.  In fact I would say it is worse because when I first received my EVO I was on orders training on the outskirts of KC and my evo was picking up towers that couldn't even be seen  but I had LTE and  I was pulling down almost 16Mb/s(megabits/sec)   Either way the problem still exists and nobody seems to really care except those that own the phone and those trying to help us (which is not Sprint nor is it HTC) figure out what the issue is.

Please don't take these paragraphs as negative or disgruntled.  They are not meant as such even if they have a negative tone to them.  I am just voicing my experiences and concerns about what most EVO owners have come to realize.

Now that is enough of the negatives.  I want to end on a better note than before because I feel that the phone itself is for the most part a great phone that like any other phone out there has issues that won't be addressed until the next gen phones(ex. the HTC ONE).  From my experience the new HTC phone corrects the issues like a champ and my wife loves the phone.  The only thing I have to figure out now is at what point in the night I can switch hers with mine without her knowing.  JK   lol.

What kind of issues are you having?

The phone will not detect or connect(one of the two or both not sure) to LTE.  Even when I do the airplane mode on and then off it doesn't find LTE no matter where I am.  Here is St. Louis there is LTE by the airport.  I took my EVO and my wife's One and the One had zero issues connecting with 4bars of LTE goodness while my EVO had three bars of EVDO.  Now I took a trip for Uncle Sam to Utah and I had a layover at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport and my EVO Blipped LTE for about twenty seconds and it never picked it up again.

those are the issues I have.  So soon when my tower across the street gets worked on and I have LTE at that tower my phone will still be on 3G and not LTE.  You can see why I wouldn't be happy about it.  I just want a fair chance to make it right thats all.

I tried last night and they told me that I would have to pay $275 for the early upgrade and that I would also have to pay for the phone.  so that was $374 for a GS3 minus $83 for the trade in even though it isn't really an upgrade.  I am calling sprint today to voice my concerns.  I have been with sprint for 9 years and have waited through the fiascos and the breakthroughs.  I have been a loyal customer and now that this phone has no LTE capabilities they want to stick it to me.  I don't think this is how you keep customers.  I love Sprint but it is like when your kids do really bad stuff you tell them,  "I will always love you but right now I don't like you."  haha. 

Any suggestions?

Picked Up LTE At LamberT Airport For roughly An Hour. Then No LTE. Same Down HereAt Edge. now I Know What I Must Do. Sell The EVo And Get Something Different. Everything The Forums Say About The EVo And LTE Is 100% Frustrating.

Then There Is This SillyIssue With The Text That Capitalizes Every Thing I Type. funny

I just want them to say "really slow", "slow", and "Wow Mamba Jamba".

Its ok. I am from NM and currently live. However, I spent all of my college years in the SHOW ME state. GO CARDS!

That is a big heck yeah. Go cards

Thank you for all the help. Mine eyes have seen the glory.

Sent $10 for now. Will have to re-negotiate with the accountant to see if I can give more.

I am sure some KFC would not make it through the mail. Can you have that delivered? I may have to call KFC and have it delivered.

what is the recommended donation?

That is because it is all private information that can only be seen by sponsors. Only thing available to you right now is the public thread where we can't divulge any private information.

Sprint NDAs? Or just can't because it would be a company secret? Don't answer if you can't. I am just going to have to donate and find out for myself.

If you become a sponsor you can see maps off the sites that are completed, sites that are i progress, and you would also have access to my spreadsheet for the MO market

Ok thanks guys. I need to look into the sponsorship then. I can't believe I searched this site and Google and bing and I found nothing to mention.

I know this is going to take a long time but where is the Love for MO. We have basically three areas that are LTE live but they haven't moved any closer to the STL. Just wondering when we will see LTE in this area (If anyone has any details that is) I love sprint but it seems contractors are working in other areas than MO. Don't take this as complaining I am just fishing for info. It will be almost a year that I have had my EVO lte and still nothing has been said about when STL areas will get LTE.

Thanks guys

Andrew

Mine isn't rebooting so much anymore but I get system errors at least once a day. It isn't bad though just have to send HTC an error report.

Yeah, good luck packing all that in the space limited iPhone...

 

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That would be up to the manufacturer to sort that out for each phone though. Making a single chip would be easier for Qualcomm instead of tailoring one chip to a certain phone.

Yes, a single chip is part of the solution. However, with LTE they use MIMO. At least 2x1 MIMO. Two receive and and one transmit antenna. And some LTE bands can double antennas, some cannot.

 

So, in a device, like the EVO LTE that only has LTE on one band, it needs three LTE antennas. If you try to cram more LTE bands, you may need six or nine LTE antennas. That's a lot of real estate for antennas in a little smartphone.

 

So regardless of how many LTE bands the chip set can support, the biggest factor in determining how many LTE bands a device can support now, is how many antennas will be needed for the bands that carrier needs and whether the device can support that many.

 

Don't get me wrong. Your point is good news.

 

Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

Awesome back to the old days when we had brick phones. I wonder what they will cost. lol

In all fairness, the iPhone door was opened by others within this thread with not so favorable comments. So it's at least reasonable for the guy to mention that his experience with the iPhone has been good.

 

At the end of the day all we are talking about is mobile devices. I will never understand why folks invest so much emotion into the choice of a mobile device. If it does what YOU want it to do, how YOU want it done then what does it matter whether someone else likes it or not? Likewise if it doesn't fit you what does it matter if it fits someone else?

 

All these Apple/Android rants deserve a

 

I love Bill Cosby. He has always been one of my favorites. I believe in this scene he is speakingg to Malcolm and Malcolm just said something remarkebly dumb and Bill is trying to comprehend where he went wrong with the upbrining of his only son.

Lets not get ranty. We don't allow anti-Sprint rants, so we probably shouldn't allow anti-Apple rants either. Thanks.

 

Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

Don't have any issues with my iPhone. AirPlay works awesome on all my iOS devices. No complaints! It just works. Maybe a little boring as a phone but I'd rather have quality. And you can always jailbreak it if you want to have widgets n stuff.

Well there is the fact that I can't stand how Apple comes out with something a year after another company and then sues the other company for patent infringement. Or how about lying in their advertising about being the fastest, the highest resolution, the thinest, and the bestest. I can't stand Apple. No offense to those who own apple products it is just the company as a whole is crap. They make products that are behind in technology and they want you to believe it is the latest and greatest.

Quality hmmm. I don't want to have to jail break my phone just to have widgets. I will stick with a phone that allows me to have what widgets I want and where I want them at stock. I need more than widgets though. I need freedom to do pretty much what I want to do. Can you tell which apple product gives me that? Don't get me wrong apple has done a few things correct like keeping every phone looking exactly the same so we can pick out the naive who bought into apple's advertising and just kept with apple because it is the only and most bestest thing out there.

No my kind sir it is not a little bit of a boring phone it is basically an IPod touch with the ability to connect to 3G and make phone calls. Then when someone has a better product to launch apple sues them for an injuction so the product may not be sold at all in a country. That is what you support when you buy apple products. Not a boring phone a boring good for nothing company.

Sorry just get carried away when someone tells me to buy an apple product that only half works. I went back and edited it because I was really really mean the first time I wrote it and I felt really really bad so I toned it down quite a bit.

Back to topic. Anyone seen the OTA yet/

No thanks, you couldn't pay me to go to an iPhone...ugghh....iTunes.

 

Same here. My brother just upgraded to the 4s on sprint and I just shook my head at him. He's like " What?" and I just walked away with a look of desgust.