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Sprint getting out HPUE has to count as a win, right?

 

Anyway I am hoping this is the checklist for 2017:

 

Average network speeds increase from 15 to 25 Mbps

VoLTE trials start in earnest with EVS and AMR-WB support

256 QAM and 4x4 MIMO hit the entire network

5G New Radio trials in major cities

Massive MIMO sites start being deployed

Ericsson and Nokia antenna integrated radios become de facto network deployment going forward

Expand LTE to 300 million native POP's.

VoLTE roaming with USCC

 

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AT&T already had speed capped plans through their MVNO, Cricket. This shouldn't have been a hard call to make.

 

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I don't know why people would want to drop home broadband for mobile only, unless they live close enough to a cell tower that gets them at least 30mbps minimum around the clock. Data usage such as 4k video on television sets requires that, heavy gaming I imagine needs that too, for decent speed. I've now got a 300mbps cable connection, and really can't see wanting to go back to anything slower than that.

Rural people who have no choice.

 

I hope the 5G standard has a case for rural fiber speed broadband without having to run fiber to every home. If VZ had a 2 TB a month plan with nearly gigabit speed in the 5G Era, and it was available here and was $70 a month, I'd consider it.

 

We will have to see if there is an economic case for this.

I really don't know if Verizon would try or not. I don't believe so much in that as I do in the chance AT&T making another offer for T-Mobile if Sprint tries to buy T-Mobile, not in the case of DT trying to buy Sprint.

Verizon will likely try for Comcast instead IMO. They would be better off with Comcast's entertainment and fiber assets for 5G and they can divest their remaining NE footprint of traditional Telcom and Fios to Frontier. It would greatly increase their fiber and home footprint.

 

Which, ironically enough, Frontier would be a takeover target by someone or something when taking over the old Bell Atlantic.

 

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http://bgr.com/2017/02/24/verizon-unlimited-data-price-per-line/

 

Hahaha there's some stupid people out there in the market.

 

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Looks like Tmobile will be the first carrier to launch LTE-U who desperately need to add capacity. This is definitely a great move for Tmobile. LTE-U will mainly be deployed via small cells and Nokia and Ericcson equipment's equipment was just certified by the FCC today.

 

I wonder if Sprint will be doing the same anytime soon but then again they have a ton of 2.5 GHz spectrum that they have yet to deploy.

 

http://www.tmonews.com/2017/02/t-mobile-launching-lte-u-spring-2017-increase-lte-capacity/

Verizon is launching LTE-U as well and already has a LOT more small cells in the field. Verizon will be greatly helped by T-Mobile pushing through LTE-U.

 

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Another point on crowdsourced tests: They can only measure data when they have a connection. It is a logistical flaw in this testing system. 

I really enjoyed reading Ars Technics's article about T-Mobiles response to Rootmetrics results.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/t-mobile-wants-you-to-ignore-last-place-finish-in-nationwide-network-test/

 

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Never mind me, I'll just be eating popcorn watching the Magentan vs. Ars commenter violence. 

 

I'm laying my money on the Ars commenters FWIW.

From my use VZW voice is beyond over modulated or compressed. Even on VoLte imho.

 

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YMMV but I do not have that experience at all. VoLTE on Verizon has been the best experience that I've had on voice that I have had by far. 

Not everyone on Verizon download the open signal app. I have a line with them , and I never downloaded the app.Neville never wants to admit defeat. T-Mobile a great network like Verizon yeah right.

I commend T-Mobile for their progress but it still isn't as good as VZ for overall coverage and reliability. It might be as good on speed in urban areas but I also expect VZ users to be submitting more data into the Ookla database. It will be interesting to see how unlimited changes the data sample.

 

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Neville says crowd source data is more telling than scientifically conducted tested, might have something to do with the results...

 

 

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/network-testing.htm

I may do a full rebut later, but Neville backhand slamming the GS7 goes against independent RF testing that praises the GS7 as a great phone. Well, in this case, the RF testing Milan did. The T-Mobile variant is also the only phone working with 4x4 MIMO and 256 QAM. If anything, TMUS had an advantage in the Root testing.

 

Second point: Root also tests diligently indoors. To say that it is almost exclusively drive testing is a falsehood.

 

Final point: crowd sourcing almost always slants toward the technologically urban hipster and well heeled financial crowd. It discrimates against both rural and poorer urban areas. Crowd sourced testing has its purpose but so does independently administered testing.

 

I think Neville should spend a few days exclusively on a Verizon device. That might be illustrative in his case. Their network is still superior to T-Mobile's. The Verizon glory days are still in progress.

 

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It amazes why Tmobile couldn't create billing code for these promos where you don't have to deal with all these statement credits. It is really silly to have to deal with it. Also why in the hell in this day and age do statement credits taking up to 1 or 2 billing cycles. It should be instantaneous in my opinion.

I suspect it is because their systems are so complex and so bad that they can't do that.

 

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Also, for preaching simple, T-Mobile plans are complicated and their billing system is a Continental Tire Fire of epic proportions. Just read their sub. It's post after post of billing error after billing error.

 

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As far as Sprint geographic expansion goes, hit the areas where the Magentans have their hands tied like around STL and in North Carolina/Knoxville TN. Areas with no low band on their end.

 

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Also most of the non tech people notice dropped calls before they notice dropped data. Traditionally, the carrier Sprint competes with most directly is Verizon, not AT&T and T-Mobile. So while AT&T can lose customers to Magenta and be okay with it as long as it isn't big business, Verizon competes more fiercely in the space and has a VoLTE network that hits all possible metrics. Verizon hitting all network metrics makes it a difficult competition. That said, Sprint has a platform to get faster if they just spend the cap ex. The base of reliability and good phone/text is there. What Sprint should do in 2017 is expand geographic coverage and small cells. No reason Sprint can't be competitive on speed, but there is, in my mind, an element of "great artists ship" at play. Get the averages up this year, guys.

 

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Sprint granted waiver for 800MHz LTE in Phoenix area

 

 

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0215/DA-17-169A1.pdf

This happens quickly after Sheriff Joe gets beat. Go figure.

 

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The Hallmark store?

Nah lower quality than that. [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

 

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I haven't heard much from any of the carriers about reliability lately, except a bit from Verizon. Carriers love to talk about speed, which isn't even very reliable as it is.

 

 

My short but to the point example is that Verizon and AT&T have a tower that they share right next to the local big box that rhymes with Palblart. T-Mobile has a tower here but it is across town a bit next to the town park. Verizon and AT&T work in that Palblart (lol) and T-Mobile has real issues with hanging onto LTE signal. It doesn't help that T-Mobile has no 700 MHz here but most customers aren't going to care about that.

 

In the minds of most customers that would sting. In reality, the smaller carriers have always had issues with Big Box. While I hate said Big Box, shopping there is unavoidable here. Small cells within the Big Boxes would help but that is going to need to happen on a massive scale.

 

 

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I think T-Mobile is great for all network categories except coverage and reliability. Where I live, guess what issues carriers tend to run into? You guessed it, coverage and reliability. T-Mobile talks about coverage expansion, but I don't see a lot of talk on their end on reliability. Reliable connections are still kind of important, right? Or could it be I'm missing the boat on this?

 

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The math was done on spreadsheet on Sprint Reddit. It isn't like people haven't done ED1500 comparisons before...

 

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So Sprint did nothing for ED subscribers right?

 

The online optimizer shows a price hike for me... and thats before we start adding phone costs

This is what I'm scratching my head about.

ED1500 customers are for the most part high value, high ARPU, high ABPU customers. It isn't like Sprint telling SERO users "sorry, we can't help you here." I would think Sprint would be going a little harder at retaining the ED1500 crowd.

 

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I want to make it clear, the comps I were making were long term ones.

 

Q3 2016 S to Q4 2016 TMUS is the quarterly comp. I assumed everyone on here knew that.

 

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So LTE-U interesting.

 

Seems again TMO is talking less and doing more.

 

 

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Per Sherif Hanna of Qualcomm, this is only going to be deployed in small cells for the conceivable future. T-Mobile only has 1000 of those in the field, a far smaller number than either Verizon or Sprint. T-Mobile has to ramp up small cell deployment for LTE-U to be seen much. There's another 7000 small cells contracted but we all know the delays that pop up in the small cell process.

 

Also it will only be supported by X16 devices initially. Perhaps XMM 7560 later in the year. That means only GS8 since X16 is likely limited to Snapdragon 835 which is limited to GS8 initially.

 

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This simple phrase can't be stressed enough. People are conditioned to view higher numbers as better certainly, but 'more' is not unequivocally better in every possible situation/scenario.

A10 has just as many cores as Kyro but kills it in performance especially on single core.

 

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Yet Sprint's operating income is $310M, while T-Mobile's is $3.8B. Those numbers, IIRC, wouldn't be affected by debt repayment or taxes, only net income would be.

It is intriguing to see where the numbers lead in things like this. That said, the mass of Verizon customers in the consumer end is staggering. Verizon has 100+ million postpaid lines and 72% of it is consumer. That's 72 million lines held by consumers. Verizon is doing unlimited IMO because that 72 million was starting to get chipped away.

 

To contrast, AT&T sits at million 27 consumer lines and the rest is business mobility, 50 million lines.

 

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