Fraydog

Wall painting

Having the iPhone for Virgin is more about customer retention than bringing new customers in, though I can understand why price conscious consumers would want to move from Sprint to Virgin, considering that Virgin is basically Sprint's branding for prepaid along with Boost.

Why was Band 17 created separately from Band 12 anyway? Was it that much cheaper/efficient to drop support for the A Block, or was it mostly AT&T deciding it didn't want its phones to be interoperable with regional carriers' LTE?

Some of it was that and some of it was interference in the A block which has been curtailed somewhat since the creation of that band.

Without that $10 per smartphone customer, Sprint doesn't have the money to build out Network Vision.

Irony: Samsung bought Vilingo which Siri kind of copied before Apple bought them.

But don't tell the raving Apple fanboys about that.

Apple and Samsung should just cross license patents and get it over with, IMO. Samsung is a large supplier for Apple and I am not sure p***ing off a supplier is such a hot idea.

I suspect the division of Band 12 and Band 17 will eventually be undone.

Either when AT&T realizes they need to work with USCC on rural LTE deployment, or when the FCC realizes Band 17 has just been a big bluff.

The issues of division on Band 12 and Band 13 are much more significant.

I'm going to have to play devil's advocate here.

I sense the frustration of the people like the poster who I presume got ban hammered. He chose to express the frustration in the wrong way. He does have the right to be upset, however.

It's simply more difficult to see the future even if you own a crystal ball. Most people simply want their network to work.

I can understand the frustration of those who crawl along on the Sprint network at EDGE speeds.

Furthermore, not everyone has the knowledge or ability to read a white paper on Network Vision or know exactly what a RBS 600 is. Even if they read that white paper they will still have a hard time to translate all that information into believing that it will be different this time.

Knowing Sprint's history, that's a hard sell. I am one of the people who thinks NV works. If it doesn't?

I don't even want to think about what happens in this industry. Dark place.

I'm bumping this thread as I'm beginning to see what Mobilenation is building out and what Sprint is building out. Apparently the terms of this deal are quite liberal. Sprint itself is building out in Martin, Tennessee, and Mobilenation is building out in some of the other rural areas surrounding Martin. I can tell what is really native by looking at Direct Connect in the map. Mobilenation sites are not CDMA Direct Connect but Sprint sites are. It seems like most of the areas where Mobilenation is are eligible to buy from Sprint as well.

This just seems odd for a SRA...or a well placed Trojan for Sprint to boost their coverage where it's mostly weak which it was in Western Kentucky and Western Tennessee.

Now if Mobilenation comes north to Southern Illinois remains to be seen. Their original name, oddly enough, was SI Wireless. Looking over their license sublet, apparently Chester and Sparta to the NE were the only towns that were partly in Sprint area and partly in Mobilenation area.

Personally I'd prefer Sprint as the one to put up towers on the populated lines of this agreement as I'm sure the Ericsson NV equipment is better than the Huawei base stations used in the Mobilenations deployments.

 

Kind of like we Sprint fans can insult stupid Sprint decisions, but as soon as a Verizon or AT&T Fan Boy show up and do it, we get all pissy?

 

Robert

Please don't think I'm an AT&T fan.

I just like their 4G LTE logo better.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=178232

My head hurts after reading this thread.

 

We have a lot of Commnet sites here in Northern New Mexico that I roam on. They have great backhaul on really remote sites. Often get 1.5Mbps to 2.5Mbps. However, I bet Sprint pays them beaucoup bucks for it all.

 

Robert

Sprint has existing 3G roaming contracts with them in my neck of the woods. Occasionally I'll fall back to extended roaming off VZW on them. Speeds are really good, but I kind of operate under the assumption that I'm usually the only user on that EV-DO channel. They sure shed a lot of customers here. Billing and customer service in particular were large issues.

Bainbridge is an area that is severely affected because of the FCC's ignorant decision to not block the acquisition of spectrum squatter ATN's acquisition of Alltel properties in six states of which Georgia is one. How bad is ATN?

AT&T should have been allowed to take the other six markets that VZW shed off in addition to the 18 they did acquire for

Verizon as part of the Alltel divestures. Yes, ATN/Commnet is that bad. I bet they hit Sprint bad on roaming rates as well.

Just a really rotten example of the FCC screwing the pooch. I wouldn't blame Sprint for the lack of competition which is eluded to here. If anything the FCC should be cutting a check to Sprint for providing completion of NV in these six states, specifically in the areas where they screwed the pooch with Alltel.

I've noticed a huge 3G speed difference between the suburbs and far west suburbs. For example, I work in Carol Stream, 3G speeds are fantastic, and the towers by me are NV completed according to the map. I live in DeKalb, 3G speeds are mediocre at best. The entire town is NV completed according to the map. Has anyone else noticed this? Is it possible they just haven't updated the fiber lines to the cabinets? I know its not over capacity, DeKalb is a college town, but its summer.... Just hoping out loud that it doesn't stay this way....

DeKalb is served by Frontier which is a major pain in the arse to deal with from a backhaul perspective.

That's AT&T's RRU. Same around STL where AT&T is doing a Network Vision like upgrade in getting 4G LTE running.

It is the same with the VZW version since they are almost the same device.

You think that's bad? So is the AT&T Facebook. So is VZW's and T-Mo's, for that matter.

It really makes me feel empathy for the social media people at all these companies who have to clean up after these messes (HIRE ME PLEASE).

Tea time

On HoFo someone found a live LTE site near Highland, IN, which is in the Chicago metro SE of the Loop.

Foot pain

Royal poisoning.

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