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It takes forever (days) for the map in the app to show the data that I've collected, but it shows up on the Sensorly website almost immediately. Rooted here as well.

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My local cell seems to have toned things down a bit today. Servers in both Chicago and Arlington Heights.

 

When you say "Servers in both Chicago and Arlington Heights" Does that mean that you are getting signals in the City of Chicago?

 

I think that he's referring to test servers for the Speed Test app. You can choose the server closest to you for (theoretically) better results. The closest servers to him are probably in Arlington Heights, Chicago and Vernon Hills.

 

Physical location has almost ZERO bearing on the test servers. It is based on ping from you to the server. For example, the Aurora server with Blast Communications (there's also one up north on AirLogic) are sitting on InterNAP bandwidth, so they will test very well across the board. There will be exceptions, for example on a Comcast connection, the Comcast server *SHOULD* be better.

 

Sorry, I thought it would be best if I nested the crap out of this to get the full context of this conversation.

Efranco1 was confused about Hiro11's comment about the servers. I believe that efranco1 thought that Hiro11 was referring to some kind of Sprint LTE "server" because Hiro11's preceding sentence mentioned his "local cell." Efranco1 simply might not have made the connection with the attached picture that the speed tests were performed across multiple servers.

I could be wrong, but I believe that my response was valid because it clarified what Hiro11 was referring to. Also, the qualifier "theoretically" covers my comment about results:

https://support.spee...select-a-server

While you're *physically* in one location, you could have an IP that places you in the middle of God-knows-where. I can recall dozens of instances where I fire up my Speedtest app and it says I should test through some Kansas or Tennessee server, though I'm not totally sure if this is due to a related phenomenon. In any case, I'm not arguing that, I was strictly talking about results.

For me, latency is part of the overall results of the speed test, so while my IP can place me in Kansas, I have the feeling that if I test through Chicago, I will get a better ping because I can't beat physics. However, I have no doubt that the download/upload speed shouldn't suffer (much) due to the increased distance assuming that the server's capacity and bandwidth are sufficient.

I have noticed considerable speed improvements in the NW suburbs. I remember when I first achieved LTE access in Palatine and Barrington via the NW HWY corridor. Now, I consistently get a good LTE connection. In Schaumburg, the other night, I had 25 mbps down and 9 mbps up near Woodfield mall. Has the LTE connectivity and speed increased in these areas for anyone else?

Yep! I actually got a somewhat tenuous LTE signal in my house near Golf and Algonquin.

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Not sure if anybody looked at this image in the android central thread

 

 

Under Fixes/Enhancements --- Upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich ..... ummm?? ok?

I think that the (admittedly hopeful) assumption is that it's a typo. I lend a little credence to this assumption due to the fact that there's an Android full of jelly beans poking out behind the EVO and that there was another screencap which actually said "Jelly Bean."

I'm also hoping that there is a hidden message here: the Android's organs seem to be made of jelly beans, so the fact that they're all over the place means that it's "spilling its guts."

Am I crazy or has LTE deployment seriously slowed down? It seemed like it was lighting up all over the place a month ago. I know they're 70% complete in Chicagoland, but I should think the vast majority or remaining sites is in the city...between all the dead zones and having an EVO Lte, I'm on 4G pretty much never. Does anybody know what's going on? I'm hoping their plan wasn't to get to 70% in a given market and then send resources elsewhere only to fill in holes later...it's all holes!

I think that only about 44% of the towers in the Chicagoland area are transmitting LTE right now. 70% of the towers have had NV work done on them, but that doesn’t mean LTE has been activated on those towers yet.

(NOOB)

 

FWIW,

Just got LG Optimus G today from Sprint store at Clark and Division. They said no 4G there but maybe over on State street. My apt is at Clark and Schiller. 5 bars of LTE even though Sensorly says nothing there. Speed Test: 13.5Mbps down, 10.2Mbps up.

 

I was worried about losing WiMax speeds and maybe having to go WiFi at home, but looks like I've got LTE. (Either that or I'm a blithering idiot, which is a distinct possibility...)

Well, you should be using WiFi at home, regardless of your cellular connection-

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2062-debate-on-whether-you-should-offload-smartphone-data-on-wifi-even-though-you-pay-for-unlimited/

As for "bars of LTE"-

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2040-bars-lie-for-lte-signal-strength-how-to-determine-your-actual-lte-signal-strength/

I also notice you have the EVO, did you try cycling through airplane mode?

I think Sprint is testing a NV tower near my house in Overland Park (near 106th & Quivira behind the hospital). I have been getting LTE on my phone and each day it seems to be getting faster and more stable, although yesterday there was no signal. This moring my signal strength was also at its lowest dBM at -103 (the lower the number the better LTE signal) and per speedtest i received 5.60 Mbps download and 4.35 upload. I do have a question, can I capture a screenprint of my Speedtest results? Using the HC EVO LTE phone. Also, can I tell which specific tower I am getting the LTE signal? Thx

Actually, a higher number means a better signal (-95 is higher than -103). To take a screenshot on the EVO, just push the power and volume-down buttons simultaneously for a couple of seconds. Not sure about telling which tower you're locked onto for LTE, sorry.

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I already confirmed that it pulls the same RSRP figures as in the LTE Engineering screen.

 

AJ

Cool, thanks!

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See if you can have the LTE signal numbers in the status bar at the top.

 

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Yep, it shows it! I didn't have time to compare it to the values in "Network" or "Phone info" menus, but I'll try that later tonight.

EDIT:

Dammit AJ, get back to work! :-P

You were simultaneously roaming on another carrier's CDMA1X network and connected to Sprint's LTE network. That can happen. But you were not roaming on another carrier's LTE network.

 

AJ

Holy crap dude... I just quoted a post you made in the other thread pointing you here! You beat me to it 1 minute before I got the chance to even direct you here! Someone's on their game...

Oh yeah, I know that these phone's can't roam on LTE, but I thought it was still strange that I was roaming on 1X while connected to LTE.

This happened to me last week. I saw both the "Roaming" and "4G" icons in my status bar at the same time. I thought it must have been some kind of glitch, but there was some compelling evidence to the contrary.

For one, the “Phone info” menu stated that I was roaming:

I also happened to be logging in Sensorly while it happened. It was the first time I had ever seen the phone record more 4G points than 2G and 3G points:

 

No LTE here to test but it looks like you could put your LTE signal number in the status bar. So you could see both 1x and LTE.

 

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I installed it and travel through some heavily-covered LTE areas on my way to work, anything you want me to try out?

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c

=299,792,458 m/s (in a vacuum)

I've seen 38/39mbps speeds before. It's entirely possible that he's getting these speeds. 3g speeds are typically supposed to max out at like 2.5mbps but I pull 2.7mbps.

I thought the theoretical max for EV-DO was 3.1Mbps.

I remember one of the initial Sprint LTE test videos showing 50Mbps with 10Mhz of bandwidth. I'm not sure what the limiting factor is now...

"Good, good..."

 

AJ

I pictured you more like this:

:-P

I'm assuming you're someone who gets bored and wants to change devices frequently.

…

I actually did switch out fairly frequently back in the day, but I kept my OG EVO for the full 2 year contract before switching up to the EVO 4G LTE. I think I’m more of a “commitment” sort of guy now that I’m in the latter-half of my 20’s. You could say I’m looking to settle down with the right one (for 2 years at a time) instead of whoring around like I did in my WinMo days.

However, I believe that this is a testament to what I was saying before in that high-end phones get the geeks’ attention and therefore better third-party support. This third-party support means that high-end phones can now be kept current for longer periods of time.

I’ve kept this theory to myself for a while, but then this review of the LG Optimus G kind of made me comfortable enough to at least see if others shared my opinion.

My rationale initially stemmed from the fact that their phones seem to be fairly top-of-the-line when they make their debuts, at least compared to other U.S. carriers. Back in the Windows Mobile (NOT Windows Phone) days, I believe that phones like the Mogul, Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, etc… all came out on Sprint at least a little before other carriers offered their variants. Flash forward to 2010, when the original EVO came out. Reviewers stated that even if you didn’t have WiMAX in your area, the phone itself warranted heavy consideration since the hardware was pretty unmatched on other carriers’ devices.

Now, let’s look back at the review of the LG. The line, “Kudos to Sprint for keeping clutter to a minimum and bundling just two apps” stands out as another prime example of my sentiment (the fact that it was block-quoted and enlarged also helped it stand out). My EVO 4G LTE had barely any bloatware on it, effectively reducing my need to use Titanium for that task and clearing the app tray for apps that users will actually use because they bothered to download them. LTE connectivity issues aside, this phone was ahead of most other phones on U.S. carriers until the S3 came out.

I think that an argument could be made for T-Mobile, however. Their network (GSM) and policies (bring your own phone) allow for a broader range of devices, but the devices that they offer in their stores have seemed somewhat lackluster at times. Verizon will always leave a bad taste in my mouth because they always seem slow to the high-end game and I recall them pushing manufacturers to make their phones extra hard to root.

Any thoughts/differing opinions?

we need an updated one of these. Pretty please.

Haha... I'll do it tomorrow or Tuesday!

Why would that be that the signal doesn't reach ground level? I also noticed that in my building in the west loop. I am on the 5th floor and get intermitent 4G signal, but then I get outside and nothing. Thoughts?

 

It's early in deployment. If the signal is not nearby, but rather a good distance away, you will not be able to get the signal. Being up in the air gets you above the clutter and offers you a chance to connect to a distant site.

 

The signal will be much better in your area and reach the ground when the sites around you are converted.

 

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Check out this PDF:

http://www.iegmp.org...nts/iegmp_4.pdf

There’s a diagram on page 35 that sort of depicts the mechanics (so to speak) of near- and far-field regions. I don’t know what the near-field region is for a tower, but I seem to recall hearing somewhere that a cell phone won’t be able to use the near-field signal of a tower because it’s attuned to the far-field signal (which covers a much great amount than the near-field).

Possibly related to that is the figure on page 37, which shows where one can expect to start picking up the signal from an antenna.

I am writing articles on it.

 

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By no means am I saying that you’re slow or that you don’t have other things going on (like, I don’t know, your actual job), but is there any update on the article chronicling the testing that you did?

Oddly enough, I’m not so much looking forward to a fix as I am to seeing what the reaction from the tech world would be. Ideally, I'd like to see a nicely-summarized Engadget or BGR article on your data with “We have contacted HTC with questions” written somewhere in there.

Hell, I’d even be fine with Gizmodo writing another highly-opinionated article if it gets HTC’s attention. You know, the kind where author completely misses the point of your data and proclaims that this will end Sprint and puppy-killing HTC’s relationship for good while said author ignores the backlash of comments correcting the article? Yeah, I could totally go for one of those.

I have a better map of lte

 

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You might want to try viewing my post from within a browser. ;-)

EDIT: Sorry, didn't realize you were comparing it to the one that you posted yesterday. My bad!

Here's something that I've been putting together over the last month. I've been doing a screenshot about once per week. It's a little rough around the edges and probably not the most accurate thing to go by given that it's crowdsourced data, but it at least gives some idea of how things are progressing.

EDIT: the dates of each screenshot are 9/18/12, 9/27/12, 10/2/12, and 10/9/12. Sorry, the text at the top of each shot might not be totally clear.

By local storage I meant on my C drive on my PC. I really on access this site and make posts from my PC only.

Ahh, gotcha.

Huh, why do I have post an image via a cloud drive or web link. I have the image on my local storage I just want to attach it or upload it to the post directly.

Re-reading this, I think I might’ve misunderstood it initially. You need to use a web-based service because attaching an image directly to a post means that you use up space on S4GRU’s servers.

http://s4gru.com/ind...load-a-picture/

As you can see from that thread (where we should continue this conversation), the space is limited to about 700MB for the entire site. That’s why you need to use an online storage account (Photobucket, Flickr, etc…) and just copy the link from the image in your storage account into the post you want to make on S4GRU as an embedded image per my instructions above. Once you do that, it will look like this:

If you right-click on the image and check out its properties, you’ll see that it has a Flickr link.

Huh, why do I have post an image via a cloud drive or web link. I have the image on my local storage I just want to attach it or upload it to the post directly.

Hmm… not sure. You’re seeing that on the toolbar above the text box? When you say “local storage,” are you referring to your phone? I try to stay away from posting images directly on S4GRU seeing as how we only have 500KB of space per user and I’d rather not burden the site any more than I already have.

Also, I inadvertently made a ninja edit while you were quoting me. I added a note to the bottom of my post that I was hoping you’d see, sorry about that.

Found LTE for the first time in Orland Park at the Best Buy on LaGrange and 159th st. Walking into the store through the parking lot I got this. The signal faded once I got back into my car and drove south to the LaGrange/I-80 interchange.

 

Um how do I attach my speedtest screen shot image? I have the PNG on my computer but I dont see how to attached a picture to a post.

I upload pictures to a public folder on my Flickr account, then copy the link ending with the .png/.jpg extension (might not be necessary). With the link copied, go back to the post you want to place it in. In the toolbar above the text box, select “Image” in the bottom row of icons (it’s near the middle of the row, next to the “Link” and “Unlink” icons) and paste the link in the dialog box that pops up. That should embed the image in your post.

If you don’t see the toolbar, you may have collapsed it. If that is the case, look for a small arrow above the upper-right corner of your text box and click on it.

Of course, this is just one way to do it. If you’re posting from an app, what I said probably doesn’t apply.

EDIT: Also, I'm guessing that you've upgraded your phone, but your account still says "HTC Evo Shift 4G." Might wanna change that. :-P