Sgt. Slaughter

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-jewel-tipped-as-among-first-sprint-lte-phones

rumors begin...lol

also another article saying the same thing..http://phandroid.com/2012/02/28/sprint-has-plans-to-introduce-htc-one-x-variant-evo-hd-lte-coming-soon-rumor/

BUT that guy did 0 research before putting his up as he wrote "...We could hear more at CTIA in March..." and that may have been true in past but its pretty obvious that CTIA is in May this year. lol

shotty journalism. haha

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-jewel-tipped-as-among-first-sprint-lte-phones

uh oh let the rumors begin.

Nope. Noon speeds aren't even hitting 300 down. And pings are terrible right now too. But it is still better than it used to be. Most days I couldn't even hit 100 down during the day.

ha sounds like u got a lil band-aid fix at least. lol

hes gonna say the PalmPre is making a comeback! lol

doubt he says jack about any "new" device less its release dates for the nexus and LG they already stated they were having. Prolly more about NV LTE and stuff like that.

I thought I read this is for Tablets (not phones).

 

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"Qualcomm mentions that the S4 Pro will be position for the tablet and netbook market, so those of you who wish to see this in phones may not want to get excited just yet."

http://phandroid.com...adreno-320-gpu/

yeah their actual press release has "...Snapdragon S4 and S4 Pro are designed to enable tablets and notebook devices to deliver ..."

So by that you see they list S4 in there too which obviously is NOT tablet specific. In that piece of the PR they were commenting on the Windows 8 platform and how they are excited about it and this chip satisfies Microsoft's standards, so it could very well mean many things and people could very well be reading too much into the words there...

regardless i've been trying to knock some sense into some of the folks at xda recently in my thread that covered this device. Some saying its not an upgrade are just missing it completely. Same with those complaining about it not being quad core in US. I mean come on read up a little please, the S4 dual core spanks the terga3 in 90% bench's and at the very least is NOT a drawback in the slightest. The other thing is the whole fact they have its own dedicated image chip on board now that provides HUGE advantages to the camera, along with the F/2.0 lens!! Oh and the display is great too! And I haven't even gotten into the whole ridiculous types of coatings they used for the shell's, one is polycarbonate, and another is freaking plasma treated, all with gorilla glass...

I do say though my gripes are the battery issue, no SD card, no shutter button...Hopefully these are things that Sprint irons out...

Yeah, the cloud is great and can reduce what has to be saved on the phone but not on tiered or throttled att.

 

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who cares about tiered network....how about battery life? having to sync up to dropbox all the time to back up your data since you dont have an SD card?.....no thanks

THIS is what i've been waiting for!!

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/qualcomm-unleashes-snapdragon-s4-pro/

Take the current S4 chips and they added Adreno 320 graphics to it up from the 225 thats currently in the MSM S4 chips!

Stated to be out in market 2nd half of this year....just in time for Sprints flagship device maybe?!!!

thats fine b/c the dual S4 keeps up with the terga3 as it is now...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one

Also heres the thread over in xda i had during the event today. bottom of my post has all the pre-mwc rumor stuff.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466209

all in all I was surprised they didn't discuss Sense4.0 more. The camera stuff they went over seemed AMAZING, along with the case finishes they are using, gorilla glass too....BUT the whole built in battery, and NO SD card is enough for me to reconsider greatly any variety that makes its way to Sprint if those hold the same. I get theres more space so SD card might not be needed but its a safety thing for me more than anything. If my phone is messed up I always know I have a backup of 99% my stuff on my SD card. Yes I could sync with the cloud BUT that alone kills the battery, and doing so on the computer is just tedious. Also the battery being smaller than I would expect it to be for a built in one is a turn off. AGAIN WHY HTC do you still push to have that bump for the camera making the rest of the phone thin so you can say its a thin phone overall? Make it flush and put a bitter battery in the sucker and tout 3 day battery life or whatever. Its not that big of a difference but the bump itself is redic imho.

Ah, okay. Glad he is getting compensated so well for the fine work he has done.

Not just him but a handful of other VPs too. The link u had in your post didn't work for me so I just went to the http://investors.sprint.com/insiders.aspx?iid=4057219 site and saw the forms there.

Looked like about 10 ppl total and was just stock options filing. The notes cited they were from their Omnibus Incentive program...Like Dans states he isn't 100% vested in these shares till 2015 and they are restricted performance based too so he might not even get fully vested in these if he doesn't meet whatever conditions they set out...

All in all this is no big deal at all.

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We don't know the full stats on the tegra 3 yet though. If done the way they are saying, it could have huge power savings with the companion core and mega power when it needs it. I wouldn't dismiss it just yet.

It's the same terga3 that's in the tablets I thought. The whole 5th core announced was already there from the start just never really discussed fully the way I read it during the presentation stream.

And if that's the case the dual core S4 will stomp it in some tests. 28nm FTW

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Well this is my wheelhouse here being I deal with financial markets. At first brief glance the form I looked at seemed nothing more than members(Dan) actually getting more stock issued to them directly...

Nothing to worry about. It's not them selling anything as its noted with an "A" and NOT a "D" as D is for disposed.

I'll look again tomorrow but I'm pretty sure that its nothing but their incentives kicking in really.

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Looks cool for sure. I'd be interested in how some cases would work on that since screen stretches so close to edge of phone. Like my casemate wraps around and it'd be real close to being able to do that on that device it looks like...

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I thought drop box was giving all android users 50gb

 

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????? Never herd that at all...

I know it was rumored for Sense 4.0 devices to get 50Gb dropbox space but that has recently been shot down as its only 25Gb and for 2yrs according to the leaked press images for HTCs event tomorrow showing off the phone...

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Sprint keeps trying to put bloatware on the nexus I bet. And Google won't let them have it on there...

 

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Taking what you said there as a joke btw.

But i do love how ppl associate bloatware with sprint when out of all the US carriers they are one of the most responsive with it making a lot of it removable at least in newer devices.

Also whatever they are doing it will be better than VZ version as they somehow got the OK to strip features off the Nexus like Google wallet...still can't believe Google was ok with that.

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You are right about the A9 quad cores and those processors being compared to them, is Tegra 3 A15? I knew the GPU would leave something to be desired compared to competition and to me GPU plus power efficiency is more important than CPU performance and other metrics. I would give up some performance of the total package to a certain degree (it obviously still has to be capable, otherwise who cares how long it lasts) for better battery life on mobile devices.

Pretty sure terga3 is based on A9...

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Folks on the SERO (now called the Sprint Employee Referral Plan) are treated like regular retail customers inasmuch as they have access to new devices as soon as the main Sprint warehouse has them (they no longer allow SERO/SERP customers to upgrade via 3rd party channles like Best Buy or Radio Shack, which I feel is actually a good thing since I agree dealing with them especially for out of the ordinary situations is a nightmare).

However, Advantage Club customers are considered to be on actual Employee Plans and as a result must wait when a hot new device is introduced (such as the EVO or last fall when the iPhone 4S was introduced, or back in '09 when the first Palm Pre came out).

Usually the wait isn't terribly long (I'd say about a month, usually) but the wait to order a new iPhone for front line employees and Advantage Club members ended up being almost 2-1/2 months.

Ahh thanks for the clear up there. Yeah i picked up my evo4g the week it came out at the local Walmart since it was the only place that had it then. Absolutely lucky that once done the CS rep I spoke with was able to fix everything the employee at Walmart messed up and she was able to keep my old plan that didn't exist in the process...

Btw what's the difference perk wise that you have or is there none?

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They have been doing fiber backhaul upgrades on cell site right now. my question is the ones that aren't showing upgrades (network.sprint.com) on the map they will still get the upgraded backhaul when NV hits.

Fiber/microwave backhaul is not being done to cell sites until the site is having NV tower upgrade.

The stuff on the website u referenced is NOT fiber its only bundled T1 lines being used as patch work temporarily to help the area get by till NV upgrades are done.

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Sprint CDMA and Clearwire WiMax are only co-located together on less than 40% of WiMax sites. I would guess that WiMax would remain separate, but I cannot say with certainty until I see NV Site Drawings where a WiMax site also exists.

Okay thanks!

Would love to see any kind of near "official" diagrams on how its wired up if thats at all near possible in the future...

I think the biggest issue with Clearwire participating in Network Vision...is who's going to pay for it? Sprint doesn't have the funds to add $3-$4 Billion to its NV costs to include Clearwire on every NV tower. And Clearwire has even less money. That's what started the whole bru-ha-ha between Sprint and Clearwire (so I've heard). Sprint really wanted Clearwire on board in NV, but not willing to give them a free ride. Clearwire wouldn't accept anything less than a free ride and held their spectrum hostage. Hesse called their bluff and divorced from them publicly on October 7th. Then they both paid dearly by Wall Street and tech media attacks until they both relented and kissed and made up.

yeah i get the whole not on every tower thing, but the NV cabinets being installed on the current WiMax towers. Will 2.5 be run through those switching cabinets or will they stay in their separate cabinet like they are now?

NV sites are spaced apart based on 1900 propagation characteristics. Even if Clearwire was on every NV tower, their coverage would look like a bunch of islands covering a city. They would still need to come back in and infill between NV towers.

True. Wasn't really trying to say they would come back and add the 2.5 on every site, though I know it kinda read like that. Really just meant that in future Clear would be coming to some sites to add coverage in general. Regardless it all depends on the following being true or not.

So the when on a tower that already has the 2.5GHz from Clear it will NOT be run into that same NV cabinet when they do the upgrade at sites?? If this is a NO then, my whole thought on them doing WiMax towers/towers in most popular areas is out the window.

In all honesty it doesn't matter a bit anyway as the WiMax locations likely coincide with the most population dense areas anyway and thats likely how they are hitting this so they can come out the gates quick and say they cover Xmillion people already with the fewest locations done.

Though I am interested in the 2.5GHz being run in the NV cabinet or not b/c if not then it means the advantages of NV will not translate to that band at all ever and I wonder why they would make that decision...

Do you not recall the huge uproar when Sprint all but wrote out Clearwire in the October 7th conference? They not only threw Clearwire out of Network Vision, they virtually were throwing them to the wolves and nearly bankrupted the company.

 

Also, where 2500 was shown in early NV schematics, it was not a contract saying that 2500 was definitely going in Network Vision. It was just demonstrating the multi-modal capabilities of hosting other spectrum. Sprint wanted to include Clearwire in NV if possible, but they were never going to pay Clearwire's way. It was always up for negotiation. It just never was negotiated in. By October 7th, things got so bad between Sprint and Clearwire, they both announced they were going it alone with LTE without each other.

 

I have never seen a real engineering or planning document with 2500 on Network Vision. Only early schematics.

 

- Robert

yeah i remember it I edited my post saying that date sounded familiar. lol

I completely understood not mentioning them b/c at the time they didn't know and you can't start saying Clear moving to LTE b/c then any WiMax sales from then on would of been killed so it was smart to just keep saying they were supporting WiMax till 2015, to not get an uproar from customers...

And yes the early schematics are what I was referring to btw. I never took the whole PC as a way that Clearwire wasn't involved in NV at all. Completely besides the whole LTE thing, I always thought that since on the same tower that when NV cabinets were installed at those towers that the 2.5GHz from Clear would be routed into those cabinets b/c of the early schematics shown. Makes no sense at all to NOT do that regardless of WiMax/LTE or whatever.

Sprint's LTE is not co-located with Clear's LTE, per se. Sprint is installing 800/1900 CDMA/LTE at every one of their Network Vision sites. Clear is installing its TD-LTE on select sites of their own in markets they already have service. Additionally, Sprint has worked out an arrangement where Clearwire will come and deploy additional TD-LTE at Sprint NV sites upon request, as needed to supplement Sprint's LTE capacity. Sprint's multi-modal setup will certainly help host Clearwire TD-LTE where needed, but Sprint is not counting on putting it on all 38k sites. I'd be willing to guess that Clearwire will not be at more than one third of all Sprint sites 24 months after NV is complete.

 

 

 

 

 

2500 was pulled from Network Vision on October 7th. No NV documents issued since then have referenced 2500 at all.

 

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Did they announce this change with pulling the 2500 from NV? (Edit: actually that sounds like the lil conference date they had on NV last year...)

Why was this done specifically?

I never had to wait to get my evo4g nor evo3d. I had the original SERO plans that got converted over to whatever its called now. I have to go through the employee line to get phones as doing so in store(best buy...) is an absolute nightmare and still requires an advanced CS rep to fix if it ever goes through.

Called the morning the 3D went on sale and employee line had it shipped the next day no wait at all...

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Wi-Fi actually uses less battery on my phone than the mobile network. Not when there isn't a Wi-Fi connection though. If there was a program to periodically check throughout the day if Wi-Fi was available maybe...

 

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Yes that's what I'm saying. When there isn't a WiFi connection it kills ur battery searching for one. Also the act of turning it on to search and then off kills it.

Wasn't debating the fact WiFi is better on battery than network when connected.

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