DVCal

1. Metro PCS, has 1/30th the amount of markets Sprint does, and each of their markets has 1/4 the number of sites. Also, Metro PCS LTE runs between 1-4Mbps on average. Verizon and AT&T started their deployments sooner, also they are just doing an overlay of their existing network, and only deployed on half their sites with really low signal density. This is a fast, but inferior way to deploy. Sprint is upgrading it's entire network, nationwide. Every single site will get LTE. This takes more time, but will have a much more dense LTE network that will handle more users and allow for LTE performance to stay high for much longer. Sprint cannot start work in this market yet. They will not for a few more months. If Sprint doesn't meet your needs, then go. But you will have to give something up. Slower LTE speeds or data caps. But whining about it here will not make it faster. It is impossible at this point to move up the start date.

 

2. This is incorrect. First, Sprint has no Central Valley market. Only an Upper Valley market and Lower Valley market. And neither has started deployment. Sprint has no 4G LTE service in any of the Central Valley market. You are likely confusing with Clearwire's 4G WiMax network that Sprint customers can use. If so, did you know that Clearwire had their 4G WiMax network live in those communities in the Central Valley before Sprint even started selling 4G devices? Clearwire deployed there to serve their customers, but allow Sprint customers to use the network in those locations. You are making faulty assumptions that Sprint is selecting some smaller cities over you. If you are going to makes accusations in this forum, you will need to know what you're talking about. If you don't know something, then you should have a much friendlier attitude and say what you think and state them as opinion instead of trying to spew incorrect assumptions as fact. Additionally, the other markets Sprint that are currently being deployed in are ready now. Should Sprint wait and hold them to start, because you feel more entitled? Get real, and get over yourself. The Upper Valley market is not ready now, but will be soon.

 

3. Sprint will have active LTE service in Sacramento start to come live in the Spring. It will launch long before 2014. Just more mistaken assumptions on your part that you try to pass off as facts.

 

This is not the Sprint community forums. Real facts reign here. Either get on board with reality, or go somewhere else. We don't tolerate trolls in our forums.

 

Robert

I was referring to markets like the Western Michigan Market whose population are significantly smaller than the population of the Upper Central Valley market. There are other small markets like Western Michigan that are tier 2 or 3 launches.

If it is 2013 then I won't be so upset, we will see.

If work is supposed to start in Dec/Jan, that's great news. All I want is a little hope. I don't mind having to wait provided there's light at the end of the tunnel. I totally understand that this stuff isn't easy.

 

Sure DVCal's posts were basically all innacurrate, but I understand his frustration when you see Fairfield get LTE. Sorry, but Fairfield? However, I experimented a little bit. I'm pretty sure it's just 1 or 2 towers that got upgraded and I'm sure the permitting process there was cake compared to Sacramento and the surrounding cities.

No one has shown anything I said was inaccurate.

FACTs that I posted:

1. Verizon, MetroPCS, and AT&T all launched LTE in Sacramento with in a few months of the first city launch, basically a 2nd phase city, with the case of MetroPCS it launched with New York and San Francisco.

2. Sprint is upgrading markets with less than 1/2 of the population as Central Valley Market, more than year before the CVM.

3. MetroPCS had LTE in Sacramento in 2010 Verizon in early 2012, and AT&T in med 2012. Sprint won't launch until 2014.

blasphemy. Sacramento design, permits etc along with the central Valley market is supposedly completed by now if what Robert said to me a month or two ago was true and there weren't any delays. We're to begin early to mid next year if everything is going to plan. Don't spread bs please.

He said they will begin mid to late next year, I will likely take a year from that to actually launch anything.

No ATT and Verizon have been lightyears faster at deploying. Sprint will likely be 3-4 years behind Verizon here and 2-3 years behind AT&T. Sad but true.

I did. As of the 2010 census, the Sacramento metropolitan area had an estimated population of 2,461,780 -- less than half of your claimed 5 million.

 

http://en.wikipedia....tropolitan_area

 

Alone, Sacramento County rings in at 1,418,788.

 

http://quickfacts.ce...s/06/06067.html

 

http://www.news10.ne...?storyid=127274

 

City of Sacramento: 472,178

 

http://www.google.co...sacramento+city

The Sacramento Market as sprint defines it includes other areas such as Stockton, Modesto, etc. These are NOT part of the Sacramento Metro area.

There are not 5 million people in the Sacramento market, and there is not a round 5. This is a blog created to help spread the word of the spread of 4G before Sprint is planning to announce it, not to answer your unending questions about "why why why why why I don't have LTE but Verizon and AT&T have it." Sprint already offers 4G WiMax in Sacramento, and beat both Verizon and ATT to market. Either drop it or go check out www.community.sprint.com or dan@sprint.com

You should actually look up population of an area. The Upper Central Valley market has around 5 million people living there. The Sacramento market includes more than Sacramento, it includes Stockton, Modesto, Reno, and other places. It is so easy for people to criticize when your areas have already begun development.it All I know and many other people who are dropping sprint is Verizon and ATT had us launch as one of the earlier markets, while sprint has us launching as one of the LAST market, also 5 was a mistake it should have said round 4.

Are you paying attention? Check your reading comprehension. What VZW is doing with LTE is not even remotely comparable to what Sprint is doing with Network Vision, and that has been expressed multiple times within this thread.

 

If you have that much of a hard-on for LTE, get it over with and go to VZW now. But you may regret it a year from now and only a year into your contract, as VZW's LTE 750 simple overlay looks old by comparison to Sprint's LTE 1900 complete reengineering of its network.

 

AJ

I just do not understand why markets with 5 million + people are round 5 while other markets with less than 2 million people are round 2. No one has explained the reasoning for this.

Which market?

Sacramento, Verizon launched in early 2011, sprint will be lucky by mid to late 2014.

Verizon merely added a LTE overlay to their existing network. Sprint is completely renovating their network. Two different things.

 

Also, Verizon used 700 mhz spectrum, so their initial rollout could achieve "blanket (outdoor) coverage" with few, sparse sites. Then they go back and thicken the sites to provide in-building coverage and additional capacity.

 

If you came here just to complain about Sprint not meeting your needs, I suggest you find a different website. Community.sprint.com would be a good one for you.

I am just sadden that while Verizon and ATT decided my area should be among the earlier markets, sprint has decided it should be among the last markets.

This makes me sad, means I likely won't see LTE until 2015.

I don't see how what sprint is doing is much different then when verizon first launched its LTE network. Verizon launched LTE in all of the major population areas of California within a few months of each other, it looks like sprint will take closer to 2 years. I don't see how that is faster.

I understand small cities getting up with larger cities, but there are smaller markets that are by them self getting upgraded before much larger markets. I would think the upgrade should happen by market size. What is kind of annoying is a small town 30 minutes from here is schedule to go live early 2013, while we will be lucky to see it by mid 2014.

I do see that they have done many large population areas, but they are also a few that seem to be getting ignored Placed like Denver, Pittsburgh and Sacramento all with 2.6, 2.4, and 2.2 million people aren't on any list, while other areas with half of their population are on the list.

I am very disappointed with how sprint is rolling out LTE, areas with significantly lower populations than my area are being upgraded before mines. It makes no sense at all. Areas with millions of people are being totally ignored by sprint. Both ATT and Verizon have LTE here, but we will be lucky to get it be 2014.