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I picked up LTE for the first time at 28th and Walnut, then all through my drive home to 38th and Osage. Speeds aren't great, really not that much different from the 3g I was pulling before, 100ms ping, 1mbps down, 1mbps up. Got better late at night, 60ms ping, 5mbps down, 6mbps up.

I was at the first crossing of Lookout Mountain Road on the Chimney Gulch Trail yesterday and was pulling a decent LTE signal. It was the first one I've been able to run a speedtest on, 5mbps down, 3mbps up, ~100ms ping. If that was the Genesee tower, it was going through the earth.

Is backhaul the biggest roadblock to getting LTE in Denver/Colorado?

Sprint 3G speeds have always been more like EDGE speeds, but yes I agree it's been slower than usual.

At US-36 and Pecos is probably one of the worst coverage zones I pass through on a regular basis. Something is wrong with their network around there since I always drop 3G while looking at the Signal Check app. My fear is that it's going to be that way even when NV takes over because it seems like a coverage black hole.

Unfortunately, there is no Sprint tower located at Paulino Gardens, so if the one you saw them working on was on the grounds of Paulino, then it must have been someone else's tower. 

Makes sense that it wasn't that tower. I would've expected better signal propagation from a tower that high and so close to where I lost LTE.

I got LTE on I-25 north of I-70 this morning around 8AM. Last night on my way home from work there were workers in a crane bucket (not a cherry picker, oddly) working on the tower at Paulino Gardens (64th Ave at I-25). I didn't get a chance to do any speed tests or sensorly mapping. I know it died before I got to the US-36 exit. 

Maybe they are turning it on for a few moments each day for some testing prior to going live? 

Don't they have a testing SID that they use? Are you on a custom PRL?

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He's not your dude, bro.

However, not all 3G/4G sites have the new 3G NV operating, even if accepted. In many instances, 3G legacy will run side by side with NV 4G LTE because the 3G side has to be brought up in clusters.

So they sometimes have both sets of antennas on the same rack temporarily?

Does 3g acceptance mean NV 3g has been brought online?

A question regarding site acceptance: are 3g acceptances for full NV equipment, attached to legacy backhaul, or is it some other factor that makes it not a full LTE site acceptance? Are they still testing the LTE equipment in these 3g accepted locations?

Galaxy Victory 4G LTE can be had for around $120 and is a tough little phone with superb RF characteristics. 

It also has excellent battery life, since it uses the S3 battery with a much smaller screen and less power-hungry processor. It's not fast though, so be forewarned. Taking a picture is a 4 second affair.

Some more speed tests for everyone. Speeds are solid not other worldly.

 

 

 

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It may not be other-worldly, but that's sometimes 2 orders of magnitude over what everyone else gets! And the occasional 40ms ping is eye popping.

Hey guys. New to the forum. But I've lurked a lot. I mapped that Frederick tower a little more and did quite a few speed tests.

 

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Nice speeds, but slow pings. What's up with that?

I've explained this elsewhere but there is a major difference when we're talking about something loading. The biggest factor in hunan perception of fast or slow on Internet connections is the latency or ping.

 

A 5mbps connection with 60 ping will 100% of the time be faster than 30mbps with 200 ping. The greatest factor we can physically observe is the time it takes for our input for an action to go to the server and return. That is what we think of when we say fast or slow. Not the connection speed.

 

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I agree that lower pings are desirable, but AT&T and Verizon's pings are similar to Sprint's. So where are we now? The three other companies' LTE is faster than Sprint's on a bandwidth level, and similar in ping. In fact, many of these test results for Sprint look like 3G speeds, save for the upload speed.

Back to my point, how does current average speed not correlate with future network speed (many more users on LTE wanting more bits)? After all, this is what we're talking about, right? Granted, Sprint's network is probably closer to starting than close to being finished, but I just can't see how the number of users per tower is going to go down in the future. Sprint needs a growth plan to survive, and they may be increasing their number of towers with LTE (admittedly by orders of magnitude) but so will the number of data-hungry LTE smartphones. It looks, to me, like Sprint's network is already getting full.

How, then, do we judge "capacity," (meaning how many users the network can support while maintaining a decent speed) if not for speed? What am I missing?

It does not illustrate capacity at all.

 

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Please elaborate?

Well, you may argue that no one needs 32Mbps on a smartphone, but it shows (somewhat) the capacity that each tower can supply. If Sprint is this far behind even when the number of LTE users is small (purely conjecture on my part), it does not bode well for future throughput.

Also, on smartphone when you want information, you want it NOW. Faster means you spend less time waiting for pages to load for the information that you wanted and less power used to transmit leading to longer battery life. Faster is always better, there is no question.

Dat Kansas City ping. 34ms. Unreal.

Man, EVDO ping times are terrible.

First LTE site accepted in Colorado!!!! YEAH!

 

It's south of Brighton. It's just south of the I-76 and 470 junction. Near Buffalo Run Golf Course on 104th. It will be on the Sponsor maps later today. Congratulations you Centennial Staters. Now go park under the tower, light up a blunt and go to town.

 

Robert

This is great news, however I feel a little disappointed by the location. I was expecting something more urban, but I guess that's exactly how they've been doing NV nationwide. Start in suburban markets then slowly get to the dense urban areas. Like how the Loop in Chicago doesn't have NV, but everywhere around it does.

But progress is progress, so I guess I'm just going to have to be patient.

I just got off the phone with a sprint rep and he told me that co springs colorado will be getting Lte in the next 90 days with 43 towers of 800 megahertz im so ready for this update! Its about time that we get this update!!

I'll believe this when I see it.