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This is not necessarily my viewpoint but it is really simple. Many people pay for data and that feel they should be able to use that data however they want. As our phones are increasingly capable, the point of tethering will soon turn mute as we'll be able to just plug our phones into some laptopesque device and use it as any computer.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if sprint, verizon, att, etc.. will want to just start limiting what kinds of Apps we want to use on our phones depending on what plans we have. Think of different tiers of Internet. This is actually what the whole net neutrality argument revolves around too.

No, this is exactly your viewpoint otherwise you wouldn't agree. You mistake the purpose of Net Neutrality and the logistics of cell phone networks. First off, do you know what would happen to Sprint's network if just 1/4 of its subs use unauthorized tethering anytime they wanted? Even post NV we would be exactly where we are now maybe even worse considering NV has a lower threshold before a sector is overloaded. Also maybe you should take a closer look at the contract you signed or your term of service agreement.

I shall never understand where this entitlement comes from. You say " many people...feel they should be able to use that data however they want." It doesn't matter what they feel what matters is the agreements they sign. Your agreement says you may use as much data for your PHONE as you like not ANYTHING you like. If you don't like it then don't buy it or agree to the tos. Its not like everyone carrier has this policy. ATT and Verizon would be more than happy to add you to a mobile share or share everything plan.

Another point you make comes from Net Neutrality and honestly you kind of make my point but am not sure you see that. Net Neutrality( now named NN for short) is related to content. Its purpose is to ensure sites like Amazon can't pay an ISP to make its web page load faster than a mom n pop page, and for that I agree; BUT, this does not apply to what we are talking about. NN simply doesnt apply because sprint isnt restricting what you use your connection for. It restricts a capability on your phone not the internet itself. Now if you want to make an agreement on how companies shouldn't restrict anything on THEIR products then please do so. The point that really mutes NN is the fact that Sprint isnt an ISP and nor do they have any intention of becoming one because they don't have the network to support it. I was going to go into further detail but just looking at this post I think its long enough.

Can anyone that believes in "Free tethering" enlighting me on why you are so entitled to a service you do not pay for. Please tell me how a company should be forced to go along with what you define as acceptable usage. Without any regards to their bottom line, as if they are not in the business of making money.

Lg's issue isn't hardware, its software support. They have always had flagship devices but they never supported them. If I am not mistaken, Lg came out with the first dual core phone(optimus 2x, I think) and never really supported it once it was released, they were also one of the first to come out with a 720p phone (lg nitro, I think) and where was the support for that? Now here we go again with lg releasing one of the first quad core phones and no more than a few days after release they already rumored to have a 1080p phone to be released in the spring. I don't see the optimus g getting jeallybean until this new phone is released but hopefully I am proven wrong. As far as the placement of the power button, that is subjective being that I still prefer it to be on top than on the side, I find myself constantly hitting the power button on my nexus during regular use.

You know your attempts to rationalize are pointless. His posts are what one could call rants

I don't expect LTE in middle Georgia until late 2014 at best. Too rural, not enough subs to make the difference.

 

My contacts at Windstream and Cox say they are taking fiber to Sprint sites now, but it's going to take them a while. It took 4 months to get fiber into my data center... so they're having to plow in new stuff to many sites.

Sprint isn't deploying based on the amount of subs they have in an area but the time in which it can be converted. Sprint will be completely done with NV by mid 2014. So no market will have to wait until the end of 2014, actually they will be done with NV 2.0 by then.

True but I still believe it must be done on site. They have to test the signal as well before they allow customers to use it. When I think of 800 LTE I know that it must be done at the site so the same should apply for 1900 LTE at NV sites.

800 LTE is Network Vision 2.0 It is not part of the original Network Vision project, but will take less time to build out than this implementation. I'm hoping that by the end of 2014 they will be close to being done with NV 2.0

What all does NV 2.0 involves? I'm going to guess 2500 LTE goes along with NV 2.0

Is winning the lottery too much to ask. I'll take a fully completed NV by mid 2013 if possible. haha

I believe it is done on-site. Am not sure but it would make sense as the back-haul has to be connected physically.

Sounds good. I also was under the impression that they would be done by the end of 2013. This makes me wonder how long it will take for them to put 800 CDMA and 800 LTE in place. I assume 800 advanced will go on every tower possible and 800 LTE goes on 80% of towers. According to Robert all they have to do is plug in a device and do a bit of testing to get it up in running but how long will it take for them to do all 38,000 towers again. I'm thinking this would add another quarter to the NV completion schedule.

It would be hard to judge the improvement. Most people arent in an active market let alone had enough towers upgraded around them to notice the improvement in service.

I would love to see them deploy it on all metro area towers.

Sensorly, why did the "grey" feature go away?

 

That is, previously if you mapped wimax, it showed purple, and if wimax fell, it would map grey (for mapped, but no wimax). Now, new wimax and new LTE simply show no mapping in areas with no signal.

Yeah, that was a better way. It lets you know if someone has mapped that area or not. Instead of guessing if you could get coverage there you know that the signal was lost.

There are a few service interruptions, but they are minimal. There are only a few instances where they have to take the legacy equipment down before putting up the new NV equipment.

 

Samsung equipment does have hand-off issues with legacy Motorola equipment, which has resulted in a large number of dropped calls in places such as Chicago, but this is not an issue in Baltimore since Alcatel-Lucent is doing the upgrades.

Exactly what I am saying. I can tell you from experience as I am currently in and out of two active markets(Memphis/Nashville) I haven't had any problems and I have also been to Atlanta before it was blanketed with 4g and didn't have any problems. Not saying he wont have any problems but if he does they will be few and far in between

Actually, He should continue to experience service throughout NV with minimal problems. They don't immediately take down the legacy equipment when they install NV. Otherwise, if there were a problem then it would become a dead spot. Also the drop calls and other issues are only applicable to markets that have Motorola legacy sites. Although am not sure if Baltimore was done by Motorola or not.

Will be interesting to see the handset the do it in as you can't add unlimited antennaes as there is a limit of space...

 

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They should be able to get it done. The iphone 5 can support 4 different bands of lte if am not mistaken, which I could be. I can only imagine having 800, 1900, 2500 lte.

Ok thanks guys

I would not take the OTA. Just wait for your favorite dev to update and then update the radio and such via the bootloader (I'm assuming you are S-OFF).

Sorry, no idea what S-OFF means. I just unlocked the device thru HTC unlock site and rooted thru another computer one-click program. I know I have superuser access and dont want to lose it because of the setting changes I have made to my device.

Any update that doesnt causes problems is a good one in my book.

PS. Does anybody know if I update via OTA will I lose my unlock/rooted privs?

Can only hope its true. Would love some jelly beans.