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Another point is that I don't remember seeing anything about Framily anywhere else until the OP posted info about it here first. Even that aside, I certainly wouldn't assume that something (note the qualifier here) a Sprint employee that's an established/recognized member of this site says isn't true unless or until its been leaked to the press....quite the opposite actually.

Nail on the head with these comments. And public perception issues right now doesn't concern me at all, it can and does change even in the face of acute negativity for awhile. The irony of Tmo's current 15 minutes of fame position aside, look at Netflix. It hasn't been that long ago (a little over 2 years) that they were beaten up in the press repeatedly over service and pricing changes and people started leaving in droves, but you don't really hear about that anymore now.

This is so, so true far too often.

I can just see you chasing Sprint store reps now, exactly like this (except perhaps without the bike):

Automatic shoe-in for official Bingo sponsorship of the Iditarod race too.

I always cringe at people who buy those bottom of the barrel $200-300 laptops from Walmart or the like. Laptops can be so finicky/unreliable long term anyway, but buying one of those 'eLaptop' type of machines is about the equivalent of treating a Yugo a luxury sedan. Yeah, you may get out cheap for about a year or a little more if you're especially lucky, but particularly folks who buy them for their kids at Christmas, I want to scream at them that if they're gung ho on just throwing away their money, I'm in the garbage disposal business and would be glad to be of service.

Probably about the same quality as you'd expect if you bought caviar at a Dollar Tree. That's just a wild stab in the dark guess though.

This right here sums up the situation exactly to my mind. I wish there were more responsible journalists that would keep pounding on this one point. For all the positive/praiseworthy things T-mo may well be doing, this one point needs to be driven home repeatedly to give proper context IMO. If you're standing still in the right metro areas, sure, T-mo may hang the moon, but how many people stand still that long? If that's their long term strategy/mindset, they targeted the wrong areas to work on their network then....rural areas are where that sort of behavior runs rampant. My parents alone are testament to that premise.

I'll see your Eleventy billion and raise you Umpteen billion.

Voice quality seems fine for me in low signal, but I'd have to qualify by saying that I'm 90% of the time under an NV upgraded tower now at work, and my 'low signal' experience is vastly different now than it was prior to the NV upgrade. Used to I'd struggle to even keep it charged because of how bad the signal was and how it causes the phone to drain in overdrive trying to search and hang onto a signal. I can get 2 bars easily now in a building that is notoriously bad for cell signals. And I should note that this is before 1x800 even has been deployed here yet.

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5308-say-hello-to-the-framily-inexpensive-but-potentially-confusing-new-sprint-group-plan-pricing/page-8&do=findComment&comment=263399

Hey Rocket, just to clarify, is it for sure that only the Framily plan 'owner' or initiator that can see other line phone numbers on the plan, or can other account holders see what numbers are involved from other accounts as well?

Awesome, thanks for the response Rocket!

Can any Sprint employee reading the thread shed any light on the above?

If I had to guess, any discount would be off of whatever data charge you got extra (if anything) like with the plans introduced last year.

Another question (which may or may not be stupid---I may be missing something obvious) would be on the logistics of setup on these new plans. Like, do all line/account owners have to be physically present at the same time in order to do this? Or perhaps on a customer service phone call at the same time? Or do the new plans come with some kind of unique ID where people can go into a store or call in separate, give them the ID and say 'I want to be added to this plan's ID' or the like?

This is a great question and one I'd like to know the answer to as well.

Same here...when I first read the initial post I thought the guy either was a terrible speller or else had a typo in his autocorrect or Swiftkey database that kept propgating.

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You should be ashamed of yourself AJ, you take that back right this instant...you've simultaneously offended Magenta ass-kissers, Santa Claus and Don Johnson all in one felled swoop. Why, I...I just don't know who you are anymore!!

Such a quaint point you're failing to attempt to indirectly make there. While both comments are certainly made in jest, there's an underlying difference that I'm frankly shocked that you and your supposedly fragile sensitivity apparently don't understand before you madk the attempt. Raw's comment made no universal reference to women as a whole, but specifically the individual in question. It could just have easily have been a man (Moffat perhaps), and Raw's comment could have instead been to suggest that perhaps Santa should have brought him something to 'better occupy his time with' as well....I'm sure you would have spoken up just as quickly to voice how offended you were if you were a man as well, correct? Conversely, your cute little comment blatantly and outwardly makes a direct inference on the intelligence of all Tennesseans everywhere, even though again, obviously in jest in both cases (amazing what a sense of humor can do for you by the way). But somehow I doubt you'll admit to the apples-to-oranges difference between the two. Well now, I dun reckon ya'll iz aintcha...ya'll have a raht nice day now an' a raht Hap-e Knew Yur two! *hyuck*

I believe you just said something earlier about an argument being weak when using sexist remarks as a rebuttal; I'd argue that if you accept that premise as truth, then the same is true when attempting to use gender-based generalizations as well. Whether something crosses a line or not is often entirely subjective to every individual, even when it is assumed otherwise---it is not always a black and white unspoken universal truth for the entire gamut of society as a whole, nor in this case is it such for the entire spectrum of the female gender. My girlfriend is a woman as well (go figure) and she found the comment quite humorous....probably because *gasp* she took it in the context it was obviously intended. You have every right to hold the opinion you do certainly, on this or any other topic...but don't be so presumptuous as to assume you're speaking for anyone but yourself, or express otherwise, when you choose to express it/them.

I echo Robert's comments, and would further state that if 3 Mbps is 'poor speed' for anyone then I'd like to know what the heck they're trying to accomplish with their phone such that they'd actually need higher speed connectivity consistently. You can debate speedtests of 'who is faster' every day till Sunday, but for the vast majority of the population the question ultimately is 'is the service fast enough for what I typically do on an average day for a reasonable cost?'. And having spent a good deal of time in Shentel areas since I came to S4GRU, I can tell you firsthand that assuming you either live in or travel primarily in Shentel-covered areas, you'd be insane to give up Sprint. If you have a legitimate need for faster than 3 Mbps speeds, you're an exception, but if you just want faster to show off to others, make sure you go buy a Lamborghini or Ferrari to commute back and forth to work too, its flashier and will get you there faster at a premium cost compared to a Honda certainly.

Pfft, as if Nickel's some special case....you like to mess with *everyone's* head AJ.

As someone who works in a technical support position, allow me to say I love this phenomenon. It happens so frequently and always provides a laugh watching/listening to the other person try and explain it. Its like watching Mrs. Kravitz on Bewitched all over again.