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  1. 5 hours ago, schmidtj said:

    You are correct. Adding and removing lines was done totally on the watch with SPRINT. AND charges were prorated. If you only needed Watch cellular for a short time you’d only pay for the time you used. 

    With T-Mobile, watch lines are considered a special DIGITs line. I do not claim to understand DIGIT lines other than Watches are a special case and the only way to remove them are through support and all the issues that involves. 

    We all knocked Sprint's pre-historic website and billing system for years, but this DIGITs thing and onboarding process for T-Mobile post-merger is a steaming pile of junk.

    Sprint's Apple Watch onboarding process for cellular was so much better than this it's truly hard to believe.

    On T-Mobile, the Watch is given a separate phone number for billing/tracking purposes (and shown on the DIGITs page) but the actual number that's used for calls/caller ID made from the Watch is the number for your iPhone line.

  2. Just went through a ridiculous “carrier hell” process with post-Merger T-Mobile trying to add a new Apple Watch to another line on our T-Mobile account.

    Purchased a new Apple Watch Series 9 Stainless at the Apple Store today for a family member for all the new health and safety features.

    Went through the set-up/pairing process on their iPhone for them. Got to the Cellular activation step and the phone said to contact T-Mobile, so I called on the phone to add the watch. Waited 30 mins on hold to speak to someone.

    Finally got someone in an overseas call center who said she’d activate the Watch on the line. Asked me for the IMEI which I gave. She confirmed the device was activated so I didn’t think anything of it and continued to set up the rest of the watch settings.

    Get to the end of that and go to the Cellular page in the Watch App to confirm the E911 address… and it says to call T-Mobile again. The Watch itself says “No SIM”. Great.

    Call T-Mobile, was on hold for 30 mins and got another overseas call center person who can’t figure out why it isn’t provisioning. However, she did tell me that it was important to stay hydrated before being transferred up, which I found flat out bizarre.

    Get escalated to a Stateside Senior Tech Person who knew what they were doing. He saw that the device was added as an Android Watch instead of an Apple Watch. He fixed it.

    Why can’t this process be Self-Service online or at least available by chat? I hate reading numbers over the phone and not being able to confirm things right in front of me.

    Everything about this was “carrier hell”.

    Ridiculous.

    IIRC, the process was better under Sprint. Heck, I’d rather deal with AI.

    T-Mobile has gone full circle back to its carrier roots.

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  3. 2 hours ago, schmidtj said:

    Does this affect ALL customers of just former Sprint customers? This is the first time I've heard of such a policy. I would think if this affects all T-Mo customers the message boards would be on fire.

    When I spoke on the phone with the Office of the CEO person, she told me that a T-Mobile credit determination was run when my account was migrated in June and that this was the result of that. The way she explained it, it was done for all migrated Sprint accounts. What really upset me is that this was done without any customer disclosure at all, and I calmly explained that on the call.

    Also see this for how things apply to existing T-Mobile customers: https://tmo.report/2023/06/t-mobile-is-making-big-changes-to-how-customer-credit-limits-are-calculated/

    Perhaps things will light up now that we're in the Fall upgrade cycle for iPhones... People might be in for a very rude surprise.

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  4. 2 hours ago, schmidtj said:

    I was on the Apple IUP for 3 yrs. It worked as advertised but they did a HARD credit pull each year when I upgraded.
    So now I got an Apple Credit Card which lets you finance a device over 24 month with no interest as long as you do a carrier activation. If you don do an activation it works like any other credit card. Since I do an upgrade every year I just trade in my 1 yr old iPhone to Apple and they give me about 50% every year when I purchase the next phone. According to my math which could be flawed I am paying for half a phone every year which is what I was doing on the Apple IUP but this way there is no credit score hit. Buying direct from Apple has a plus of the phones are unlocked (unless you finance through ATT) so you are free to switch carriers any time.

    Appreciate the suggestions and background here. I never thought I'd have to do this, but unless T-Mobile corrects this account restriction, it looks like I'll have to.

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  5. 1 hour ago, jonathanm1978 said:

    Definitely affects me. Sprint for 13 years, switched over to T-mo billing and hit with this stupid sh*t. I thought "maybe if I pay off this, pay off that" ..but no...

    I paid off a watch and immediately tried to add a new watch...but couldn't do it. Told to call by the website...so I did. I wasn't informed of the CL or any amount... but i'm sure that I'm already over that as we just upgraded back in April to new S23 ultras on 2 lines. I don't understand their motives...but really considering just going with firstnet for all my lines, even though I despise AT&T.

    What really gets me is how these credit limits were applied with absolutely no disclosure to the customer(s) at all. That should be blatantly illegal. Their motives seem to be that they want instant revenue from full price purchases instead of from installment plans over time and any associated risk of failure to pay. I'm not a damn credit risk as a 20 year customer with excellent credit. So given their current terms, the Account Credit Limit will be "re-evaluated" 6 months from imposition, which means this December. I hope T-Mobile makes this right for all of us. I made the best case I could to the Office of the CEO on this being a bad policy and a customer pain point. I guess we'll see what happens.

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  6. 38 minutes ago, bill875 said:

    This issue affects a lot of people, I believe.  I have a higher CL, but I have 16 devices and a measly $5,000 credit line means I will have to pick and choose who can upgrade through T-Mobile and who can't.  As it is, I am going to suggest that extended family members jump to a different carrier to get phone deals as T-Mobile is pretty much dead to me with these very un, unCarrier moves they are making.  Makes me wish Sprint still existed.  I wonder what could have been had USCC been open to a merger with Sprint many years ago.

    I imagine it does and that's exactly what I told the CEO staffer person - that I couldn't be the only one affected by it. What really infuriated me is that it was done with no customer notice at all. As it is right now, we have multiple lines being financed and we're currently over the $1,500 limit that they applied.  Heck, my account size should have at least your credit limit, but really it shouldn't have any limit at all. We've been customers of Sprint for 20 years and now we're suddenly being treated like customers with bad/no credit on Prepaid.

    Unless T-Mobile fixes this, we'll consider doing our iPhone upgrades through Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program instead: https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program

    Apple will happily do installment billing and allow for annual upgrades with no BS. Of course, I'll have to pay for AppleCare+ coverage included as part of it (which I don't really want), but whatever I guess.

    This is so dumb I can't believe it. T-Mobile is riding high now, but it will eventually put itself into a death spiral and they'll be clueless how it happened.

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  7. Has anyone else here had an Account Credit Limit applied after being migrated to T-Mobile's billing system?

    Our family plan (7 phones + 1 watch) was migrated over to T-Mobile in June of this year. I recently checked on my account to upgrade some of my lines with devices on EIP, only to receive an error message on the page to contact customer service. Oddly enough, full price purchase was available for those lines.

    When contacting Customer Care, I was informed that a $1,500 Account Credit Limit had been applied to my account by T-Mobile. I couldn't understand why, as I have excellent credit and always paid on-time via AutoPay. We never had an Account Spending Limit with Sprint and we've been customers for nearly 20 years.

    I asked Customer Care to escalate the issue internally and I received a callback that nothing could be done. In fact, I was told that nothing could be done for 6 months, when the credit amount would be "re-evaluated". When I said that I wanted this escalated to the Office of the CEO, I was told to send a letter to the P.O. Box on the webpage. Great.

    Ultimately, I sent an email to Jon Freier which explained the situation. I then received a call from someone in the Office of the CEO who said she'd escalate my issue. So hopefully it's in front of someone who can do the right thing for us and fix this, because as it stands $1,500 is little more than enough to finance one iPhone 15 Pro. The person said not to get my hopes up because it would require a policy change by T-Mobile.... and I responded "I hope so".

    Furthermore, as I explained to them, we're on Sprint Max. It would cost $35/Month more to switch to Go5G Plus that would give us upgrades every two years, but what's the point since we're already going to have to pay full price for nearly all the device upgrades on our account given the $1,500 credit limit. It would cost $105/Month more to switch to Go5G Next that would give us annual upgrades, but as above what's the point given that we'll have to pay full price for our devices anyway given the $1,500 credit limit.

    The "Post-Merger" T-Mobile customer experience really sucks.

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  8. 5 hours ago, schmidtj said:

    Stuff like this:

    Add a new line or trade in a qualifying phone on a Go5G Plus plan for a free Samsung Galaxy Z Flip5—the strongest Flip yet. Open it up and turn heads.

    Add a new line or trade in a qualifying phone on a Go5G Plus plan for up to $1000 off the new Samsung Galaxy Z Fold5. Double the screen. Double the experience.

    Usually for new customers but if you're on Go5G Plus as an existing customer you can take advantage of it.
    In these examples you need a "qualifying" trade-in. Whatever that is.

    Thanks. So basically it depends on the graciousness of T-Mobile for what the deals will be. Do I need to have 24 months of payments to get these deals or can I just pay off the device(s) early to be eligible?

  9. 1 hour ago, schmidtj said:

     About a month ago my voice service was exemplary using your settings. Then I tried 5G Standalone just for grins and 30% of my voice calls dropped after 5 minutes. Coincidence? I switched back and no more dropped calls. Iphone 14 Pro Max. iOS 16.6

    J

    My voice/data service on T-Mobile has been really great. I didn’t even know this “5G Standalone” toggle switch was added there or even enabled. It wasn’t even there last time I checked these settings.

    I’ve been thinking about the Go5G Plans some more… Maybe it makes sense to do the middle ground to accommodate the Android people on our plan who only upgrade every two years: Go5G Plus for the $35/Month bump?

    What’s an example of an existing customer getting a new customer deal? I don’t really understand what that means.

  10. 14 minutes ago, PedroDaGr8 said:

    The most recent S22 update added a VoNR toggle to settings. To me, this indicates that TMO is happy enough with VoNR now to roll it out to the general public. 

    My iPhone 14 Pro on iOS 16.6 has a toggle switch that was auto-enabled for "5G Standalone" when I looked under Settings --> Cellular --> Cellular Data Options --> Voice & Data

    It says: 5G Standalone uses 5G for all cellular activity, including cellular network connections.

    I have things set to "5G Auto" and "Allow More Data on 5G".

    I'm taking that Sprint MAX plan for all I can now...

  11. 44 minutes ago, Trip said:

    I mean, all of this was predictable the day the merger was announced.  Literally nobody can pretend to be even a little bit surprised, as price increases are always what happens after consolidation. 

    It's why I've never understood all the people cheering on the merger. 

    - Trip

    I don't expect any of this to improve when Dish gets its act together.... whenever that is. It's never going to make a competitive difference in the marketplace.

    This is just the way it's going to be going forward. It's really sad.

  12. 11 hours ago, schmidtj said:

    I use to do that but didn’t like the hard credit pulls the financing bank did. Then I got an Apple Credit card. 3% Daily Cash on the purchase and 24 mos 0% payments. Now no 24 mos 0% unless the phone is activated on one of the Big Three which means no SIM/eSIM Free phones. So this year I’ll just use Discover which has 5% cash back through September on purchase made via Online Wallets eg. Apple Pay, Google Play, Samsung Pay etc.. 

    The Carriers must have used some leverage on Apple to get them to stop selling no-SIM/eSIM free phones. I wonder what was involved with that.

    It's just sad to see how T-Mobile is degenerating into the "Carrier" many of us feared after the merger, and there's really nowhere else to go.

  13. 36 minutes ago, schmidtj said:

    With Go5G Next there are no more "free" lines. If you upgrade to Go5G Next from an account with any "free" lines each of those lines will be $10/mo. Even the what use to be "3rd line On Us" will now cost you $10/mo.

    More here:

    Everything To Know About T-Mobile’s Go5G Next Plan, Including A Huge Catch

    Damn. It's sad to see things going this way now.... I miss the simplicity and value of "iPhone Forever" on Sprint.

    At some point, I should just consider doing the "iPhone Annual Upgrade Program" through Apple if this is how it's going to be. Of course, you'll wind up paying through the nose for upgrade benefits you won't use if you want the top tier Go5G Next plan for hotspot/international roaming, etc. on T-Mobile.

    What a mess. So it'll be an extra $35/Month for Go5G Plus if I want the ability to upgrade our devices every two years and have the same deals as new customers, etc..... or it'll be an extra $105/Month for Go5G Next if I want the ability to upgrade our devices each year and have the same deals as new customers.

    Heck, it seems to make more sense to pay off the devices completely and do a trade-in with T-Mobile or Apple, and stay on Sprint Max.... Failing that, I should just buyout the devices each year on T-Mobile and then trade them back in. I doubt my account credit limit is high enough to support financing 7 devices on it.

    JFC....

  14. 1 hour ago, RedSpark said:

    Just got off the phone with T-Mobile. We have eight lines on our family plan (Sprint Max).

    Switching to Go5G Plus would increase our bill by $35.00/Month.

    Switching to Go5G Next would increase our bill by $105.00/Month.

    Adding an additional line (putting us over 8 lines) also means we don't get the AutoPay discount for that line.... So an additional Apple Watch would be $15.00/month instead of $10.00/month.

    On the upside, I did learn that we still get the AutoPay discount as long as a Debit/Checking account is linked as the primary, even if you make an early manual payment on a credit card. We'll see how long that lasts for....

    I'm not happy about any of this.

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