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Yeah but consider this.
Would you rather have 5 customers pay $50 or 10 customers pay $25? The dollar amount coming in is the same, but you would attract more customers at that $25 price point.
The math doesn't work out to be that extreme... Sprint is $250/month for Unlimited Data for 4 Lines ($70/month + ($60/month * 3))
But if you had Sprint adopt T-Mobile's pricing schedule here... you could have 7 Unlimited Data Lines and it would still be $10/month less than 4 Unlimited Lines on Sprint at the current pricing.
If you had Sprint adopt AT&T's pricing here (adding the $20/month TV plan and accounting for the $10/month credit when you do combined billing for both), you could get 5 Unlimited Lines and basic TV (if Sprint actually offered it) for $220 + $20 - $10 = $230/month, which is $20/month less than 4 Unlimited lines on Sprint at the current pricing.
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Actually, Marcello doesn't need to do anything, it is just a fly catcher to see who will bite. Why do you guys think every time T-Mobile does something, that everyone must follow. What a bunch of sheep.
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As was mentioned before, if you live in an AT&T U-Verse area, you can get a $20/month TV plan and become eligible for the new unlimited plans. When you do combined billing for both, you get a $10/month service credit. So you can get 4 Unlimited Lines on AT&T for $180 + $20 - $10 = $190/month. Additional smartphones are $40/month and tablets (w/Unlimited Data) are $40/month. 10 devices per plan. Limit 2 plans per eligible TV account.
T-Mobile is $150/month for 4 Unlimited Data Lines and $30 for each additional Unlimited Data line. (Up to 12 lines total)
Sprint is $250/month for Unlimited Data for 4 Lines ($70/month + ($60/month * 3))
(Verizon doesn't offer Unlimited Data for new customers.)
This isn't about following T-Mobile or anyone acting like sheep. Both AT&T and T-Mobile are making competitive moves and I hope Sprint adjusts its pricing/plans to remain competitive with them. Sprint needs to figure out a way to bring back the 2 Unlimited Data Lines for $100/month and $40/month for each additional line.
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Marcelo just posted this on LinkedIn: Dispatches From the Road: My Listening Tour – Seattle
His prior (and first) post in this series: Changing Perception One Conversation at a Time
Anybody know how one becomes part of this listening tour?
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sprint has the ability to do anything, the question is do they want to give the service away in the name of matching price. does the quality of the network still warrant them being a value play, or does the network quality warrant premium pricing?
For 4 Unlimited Data Lines, T-Mobile is currently priced $100/month less than Sprint... and the difference only increases as you add more lines: T-Mobile's additional Unlimited lines (up to 12 lines total) are $30/month and Sprint's additional Unlimited lines are $60/month (up to 5 lines total).
I understand this is very aggressive pricing by T-Mobile, but if Sprint is going to go the value route, it's got to be competitive here on pricing.
Marcelo needs to work with his team to come up with something competitive to this.... Or, I guess the alternative is to just wait out the duration of the promotion and see what happens.
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Exactly. I bet they have a big commercial to coincide with this deal.
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Oh to be a fly on the wall at Sprint HQ right now as Marcelo and team figure out what to do...
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It's not a long term play, it's a "price low to gain share" play.
But once people are on this pricing, they get to keep it... until T-Mobile raises it....
Does Sprint have the ability to match this pricing? I'm sure it's under discussion at HQ.
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That's an insanely low price, so I wonder if it's a limited time play to grab customers.
Seems to be.
How can T-Mobile possibly sustain this pricing for the long term?
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Which only proves that AT&T could sustain Unlimited Data all along, even as it worked to drive people off of Unlimited Data Plans by throttling at 5GB.I've mentioned this before, but if you live in a U-Verse area, there is a $20/month (actual cost -- not a promotion) TV plan that you can get to become eligible for the new unlimited plans; and then with combined billing for both, you get a $10/month service credit. At that cost, it's worth it to just throw the receiver in the closet and forget about it.
But for Sprint, this means a serious pricing adjustment is needed.
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From T-Mobile Release:except the 50% off does not include this promotion, or any unlimited. i don't exactly get that t-mobile current regular price for unlimited is $95 they could have done 50% off at $47.50, that would not have been much different that the unlimited iPhone plan they offered awhile ago. I would love to see a pricing structure simplification like what Metro does with including taxes and fees, what you see is what you pay. something like
unlimited 1st line $60 2nd line $50 line 3-12 $30 include shared hot spot 5 gigs per line, throttled after that
share plans 20 gigs $100 40 gigs $140 80 gigs $160 no access fees
these prices would include taxes fees, everything The current structure is very confusing for everyone, including sprint employees... I think they need to start from scratch. The network is much improved, now the price structure needs to follow.
"With this deal, families can now get four lines of Unlimited LTE for their smartphones for the unheard of price of $150 total per month for the entire family. Plus, families (and small businesses) can add more lines of Unlimited LTE for just $30 each—up to a total of 12 lines. Or families can get two lines for just $100 per month with 10 GB per line (20 GB total)—no sharing! Or four lines with 10 GB per line (40 GB total) for $120 per month for the whole family—just $30 per line!"
You're right about unlimited, but it seems the tiered plans are in play.
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Their website is wonky on this. It keeps quoting 4 lines at 180 and 6 at 240. With the free line it should be 150 and 240 respectively. Even if it corrects itself at check out, this is a weird way to present it to potential buyers.
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It says that the "Final price to be reflected in CART". I'm guessing they do this to show how much you're saving, and perhaps it saves them time on reworking the back-end plan pricing if it's a temporary promotion.
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Hopefully Sprint has a response to this pricing move by T-Mobile.... I guess there's always the Save 50% off of your Bill Offer to cut the Tiered Offerings in half....
But see this:
4 Unlimited Data Lines with Sprint is $250/month ($70/month for 1st line and $60/month for each additional Unlimited Line)
vs.
4 Unlimited Data Lines with T-Mobile is $150/month.... (Each additional Unlimited Line is $30/month up to 12 lines)
Marcelo: I think it's time for another Town Hall
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WiMAX coverage has now been removed from the "Data" tab on the Coverage Map Page.
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The ommission of San Francisco and the Bay Area at large is noteworthy and makes us wonder what the dealy-o is.
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Yeah, it's an odd omission. Perhaps we'll see if/when Sprint updates its coverage map for WiMAX as cities are shut down.
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Anyone hear any news out of today's Town Hall?
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I see. It just seems like Sprint doesn't mind the delay. Since WiMax affects LTE Plus deployment one would think they would fight a little harder to end this. Legere would probably be in supreme court over this lol.
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Sprint is exercising good politics... but through gritted teeth. It actually fought pretty hard to end this: went to court, and injunction was issued against them.... and then they sat at the negotiating table. This was a mutually agreed upon timetable with Sprint forcing a smile.
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No, not spectrum inefficient. WiMAX can be operated with unity frequency reuse. But Clearwire did not deploy it that way.
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Thank you for clarifying that. Once the WiMAX network is shut down, how long will it take Sprint to fire up the new LTE equipment in its place? Has this new LTE equipment already been deployed to be activated remotely upon shutdown or do they have to wait until WiMAX is completely off? (The existing Samsung Dual Mode gear can probably be switched over pretty quickly right?)
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Is it possible that Sprint welcomes this delay as it gives them time to upgrade to LTE plus? I guess we will know after Feb 2.
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Sprint doesn't welcome this delay at all, but is putting on a happy face. What's remarkable is that LTE Plus and Sprint's other network achievements have happened in spite of WiMAX having to be kept on and maintained. The issue is that WiMAX is very spectrum inefficient. As I understand it, no adjacent WiMAX sites can broadcast on the same frequencies and this specifically affects Sprint's 2.5GHz deployment. Also, the old single mode WiMAX gear can't be pulled/replaced until the network is finally shut down.
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Cue the music....
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I would say yes. State or even national laws will be crafted to require an unimpaired driver be prepared to take control of the vehicle if the autonomy system should disengage. Think of it like a commercial airliner -- when on autopilot, pilot and/or copilot still must be seated in the cockpit.
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Good point. I'm imagining "Cops" episodes in the future: "Sir/M'am, we're citing you for being drunk while operating an autonomous vehicle."
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Sex. Yes, it will happen a lot.
If this autonomous car is a rockin', don't come a knockin'.
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So instead of the "mile high club", it will be the "high mileage club"?
I also predict quite a bit of substance usage.... Can you technically be charged with a DUI in an autonomous vehicle?
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Tweet from @marceloclaure: https://twitter.com/marceloclaure/status/692918460934938624
We are flying in Houston. Faster than your cable broadband. Time to cut the cord and consume content in your phone twitter.com/nm_sprint/stat…
...well that's disconcerting
Legere at T-Mobile has been saying the same thing since Binge On launched: Cut the cord, use your phone.
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Does anybody know what's the max theoretical speed for 2x CA B41?
See this Qualcomm page: https://www.qualcomm.com/invention/technologies/lte/lte-carrier-aggregation
Also see this write-up here: http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/7/8909127/carrier-aggregation-explained-how-lte-speeds-can-be-doubled-or-even
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Masa is paying property taxes In Mission Hills: https://www.opkansas.org/city-government/sales-and-property-taxes/property-tax-rate-comparison/property-tax-rates-johnson-county-cities/Better that Son spent (invested) that $5.5 million+ in Kansas than keeping it under his mattress in Japan. More money coming in from the rest of the world = making America great again.
How to calculate property tax: http://www.opkansas.org/city-government/sales-and-property-taxes/how-taxes-are-calculated/
Also, SoftBank already owns 83 percent of Sprint, so it can’t invest much more in Sprint. If SoftBank's ownership hits 85%, it actually triggers a contractual mandate from the original merger agreement and SoftBank has to buy out Sprint entirely (as in, buy the rest of the shares).
See here for the original merger prospectus which says this: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1560158/000119312513192860/d425100d424b3.htm
(Do a text search for "85%" and you'll see the applicable section.)
At the time the merger was completed in July 2013, SoftBank acquired a 72% stake in Sprint: http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/sprint-and-softbank-announce-completion-of-merger.htm
Since then, SoftBank has gradually increased its ownership stake with regular share purchases: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-30/softbank-increases-its-stake-in-sprint-to-83-19-
So now my opinion, it's fine Masa got a $5.5M house. He's paying for it and hopefully good things come from those taxes.
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Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread
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Either T-Mobile is making the numbers work here or they aren't... It's honestly hard to tell.