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On 2/2/2024 at 11:05 AM, iansltx said:

I ordered a Boost Infinite SIM a few days back, as the S24 now supports n70, and is being sold directly by Boost, though eSIM is not yet available.

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How is the transition between networks for real-time data use (streaming something) and most importantly phone calls? Have you been able to test VoNR to VoLTE and vice versa? I don't talk a lot on the phone so for me, it is no big deal.  But my SO is still the person that easily uses 1500 minutes a month, so would be negatively impacted if the transition isn't smooth.  But if VoNR/VoLTE is as smooth as VoLTE/WiFi transitions are these days, that will be fantastic. 

Also, just out of extra curiosity, does the Samsung denote a difference if you have a call over 5G.  On my Pixel I get a little symbol if the call is using WiFi or is HD.  Wondering if we may see a new one for VoNR. 

Oh also, does the phone make it easy to identify if you are on Dish or a non-Dish network? Or do you have to enter service mode or use an app to find out?

Financially, they still have positive net revenue and up for the year. Likely won't be the 10-15% it typically is.

Merger with Echostar, they don't make money but have little debt and almost $2B in revenue. Should help their debt ratio and give them some added leverage.

The terrible bit is just constantly hemorrhaging customers. I think the wireless business is still a long term play and it's going to be difficult for them. Faster they can pass out rainbow sims, faster they can at least start saving money.

Sling has been around 8 years and only has 2M customers. That service is a Deadman walking. Then DishTV, at what point is it worth just shutting the service off? Then Echostar, I don't see how they can long term compete with constellations such as that from Starlink.

They still bring in a lot of revenue but how long can they keep it up? Wireless is only $3.2B of their revenue at $35 ARPU.

If dish can't get $3.6B in funding, how are they to get $7.1B? These companies can't realistically hold onto everything below 2.5GHz for Dish to buy when they get the money or "approve" the sale to a competitor.

I could understand if Dish's defense if they had the money but they don't.

If they had better phone support, they could at least try to do a lease to buy option with these guys. Get the spectrum deployed, and start saving money.

Just sitting here wondering when I can start using their airwaves. :/

Geez. $1.2B savings to shift 70% traffic off MVNO with what is it, 9M customers. That's $11.11/mo avg per customer paid to ATT / TMo.

Pretty nuts. Maybe their high churn would actually be helpful, lol. People leave with incompatible Dish phones and new sign ups come in with compatible Dish phones.

2 hours ago, PedroDaGr8 said:

Some phones report the SSB instead of the center frequency. In LTE they were the same but in NR the SSB can be any frequency within the range. It makes it a huge pain to identify the center frequency. 

Thanks.  Didn't know about that.

For discussion...

Whats the word on 3.45GHz?  From my understanding, 3GHz radios at first (maybe still not?) didn't support both 3.45 and 3.7GHz. What about CBRS? Was that it's own radio or supported by 3.45 or 3.7GHz?

Just curious when we might see this band go live if not already. I haven't heard much buzz around it.

Few weeks ago I noticed that 3.7GHz was active on AT&T in my area. Had it basically down the whole interstate, some 15 miles. But it was only 2xCA.  Usually paired with PCS. The signalcheckpro app showed it as 80MHz with a center frequency of 3871.20MHz.  Ok, cool.  Assumed it was 3830 to 3910MHz.  I couldn't remember the exact band layout while I was driving.  Looking at it just now on Spectrum Omega, that was way wrong. AT&T owns B4 through C2, or 3860MHz to 3940MHz.

So instead of having a single 80MHz carrier, it is really 4 carriers? I have a Pixel 7, so not sure if it is 5xCA or 6xCA, but 4 carriers will be taken up by 3.7GHz? With that spectrum ownership, I would have figured a single 80MHz carrier with a center frequency of 3900MHz. Then I could CA 4 or 5 other carriers and be connected to upwards of 200MHz.

Speaking of rivalry, I herd a Comcast ad on the radio today.  Advertising 75Mbps (selling for $20/mo) on their "10G network."   

Is B&M a shell company possibly affiliated with TMo to look "interested". If B&M plan is just to lease spectrum use and let users build their own network, I don't see that happening at all. If someone wanted to do something like what Southern Linc has, it would have been done a long time ago.

Hopefully they can secure it. IMO they need it. I think that's why Sprint struggled a lot, only having 5x5 for lowband.

$4B for 2024-2025 fiscal years is very interesting. Likely just enough to meet 75% build out deadlines. Which makes sense considering they don't have customers for such a large network.

USCC will be interesting. I feel like the big carriers might want to work together under an umbrella company with equal shares ownership. Have the umbrella company buy USCC. Then piece meal everything.

21 hours ago, Ascertion said:

They have you check on daily at a new location with wifi turned off, make 10 phone calls, send 10 texts, and the rest you can pretty much bs like playing a game. Watching a video, searching a few times on Google. Etc.  I finish the daily tasks in a few minutes every day and I'm almost at founder level since I started early June.

Well that's cool. I think I'd be willing to do that. Ive been wanting to get a hotspot.

Did you have to be invited? How does one get sign up information after you get the device?

What kinda stuff they have you do?

And the hotspot is no longer available.  S22 has been replaced with the Moto Edge+.  Plan was reduced from $30 to $25.  Does anyone know if this plan allows hotspot? T&C says that hotspot is allowed on allowed plans basically, but the plan doesn't mention if hotspot is available.

It does say additional devices coming soon.  Hopefully another hotspot option.  I was afraid something like this was gonna happen soon.

Almost 2M FWA customers. I wonder if FWA is causing carriers to do full builds in more rural sites.

With 50% of their sites using VZW fiber, I wonder why not get into the FTTH business, at least a long the path of their fiber runs. 50% seems pretty wild to me considering they don't service much of the country with residential services. Maybe they focus largely on big business services, kinda like what Sprint did.

Net income is still positive.  I would imagine if they start trending negative in their finances, they would just sell off some spectrum assets, markets or portions of markets that are less profitable first.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them even go private. 

30 minutes ago, iansltx said:

Why would you wait for "out of beta"? The network isn't gonna magically get better by removing the label heh

That's not it.  Once out of beta, thinking plans are going to change up a bit.  Want to get in before that.

So Dish won't own those licenses? Does Dish get their money back? Seems like they'd just sell them, no? Maybe raising funds to aquire the 800MHz?

Or they are just cancelling the lease?

Any word on when Genesis will go out of beta?  I am considering getting the mobile hotspot but don't need it for another month or two.

No 850MHz 5G? Figured a 5G connection would be pretty robust with that.

3 hours ago, dkyeager said:

Concerns on costs of T-Mobile and AT&T Roaming. Note that he is planning on being a competitor.

https://twitter.com/peter_adderton/status/1641511803086848003?t=JR2FM0rT068A_M3FXrtlDQ&s=19

Bit too early to tell imo. It's good news if Dish can stop the hemorrhaging. Q3/Q4 2022 they were able to stop the hemorrhaging. Their previous 6 quarters they lost between 160k and 350k subs each. Their next report will be interesting to see how they were impacted subscriber wise due to the hack.

It seems VoNR is more difficult to implement than VoLTE. Why is that?

To meet their build out deadlines, is there an estimate on how many towers Dish needs?

For that size footprint, is there any estimate of how many customers at their current ARPU for Dish to just be able to break even?

They have thousands of towers out but still really don't have anyone riding their airwaves.

Anyone release reports yet?

I just went to rcrwireless and they have a small article on it

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20230214/carriers/verizon-and-att-super-bowl-lvii-fans-used-record-amount-of-data

VZW used 47.8TB, AT&T 21TB.

62,827 fans with 60% being VZW customers.

VZW had 1,400 under seat 4/5G nodes. 490 5G nodes. AT&T deployed 2,000 nodes inside the stadium.

At least for VZW, beings we know how many people were their customers, they had 19 people per node.

Dang.  Is there I way we can directly get in on that for the next one if Dish is gonna be paying 11.75%?

On 1/23/2023 at 7:37 AM, iansltx said:

Remember, they have n66 nationwide as 20 MHz SDL. 5 Mhz uplink is tight but they have n26 as well.

FWIW the iPhone 14 supports n70 so that takes care of a lot of the phone issue in one fell swoop.

Ah yes. I keep forgetting. I keep thinking that the 20MHz SDL is part of n70. Do that's good.

For the 800MHz, I did not think Dish had access to that yet. And from articles, it would suggest that Dish may not acquire it either. Which I think would be a mistake and kneecap them similar to how Sprint was with lowband. They have too much area where they only have 5x5 n71.

I wonder what Boost niche was to of had like 9M customers originally.  BM seems to be picking up in populatrity at places like Slickdeals and even Reddit.  Though, even with a uptick in popularity, it seems like they could still loss many more customers. 

The article mentions Consumer Cellular but they have like 4~5M customers.  And a brand like Mint Mobile that is super popular is estimated to only have 2~3M customers.

It will be interesting to see how things shape up for Dish.  How they end up organically growing their customer base.  Maybe additional acquisitions in the future.  Selling phones also seems like it has been and expensive operation.  Just sounds like a lot of cash up front is required to do that kind of stuff, they may be more focused on spending their money to hit their deadlines.