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4 hours ago, mikejeep said:

Are you sure when you connect to n41 it's changing the signal strength in realtime? Or does it change once and then stick?

I guess the best answer to this is both? lol  It does seem to change sometimes but not as often as the drop down like you said it sticks for a bit.     It's weird that it's working even a lil bit tho lol   when on OxygenOS12 when i first got the update  sometimes it would work then it wouldn't    then I got another update to fix the bugs it was loaded with and like u mentioned before on the pixel in Android 13  it never showed.    So I was surprised when the thing came up in Pixel 7 lol

On 10/26/2022 at 2:31 PM, mikejeep said:

It's a known Android 13 bug, it was discussed a few posts above this. Help attract attention to it by giving a "+1" to the entry on the Android Issue Tracker linked above!

Hey Mike

I ordered a pixel 7 on Thursday  and  it arrived today    I actually noticed when I connected to NR 41 (NSA)  it works  but when it connects to LTE b66   it's back to --   then connects back to NR 41 and it's working again...    Do you think it has something to do with LTE?

On 7/24/2022 at 4:13 AM, mikejeep said:

I know this is an old message, are you still having issues? I don't see any unanswered e-mails that old but I apologize if I missed you. Please feel free to send it again if needed. I did work with OnePlus on that display issue a few years ago; this is the first I've heard that it is occurring again. If so, it's on OnePlus to resolve it, apps have no control over the color of the text in the status bar. It's supposed to adjust automatically if there is a light background.

Hey Mike   

Ya I was the one that brought the issue to your attn for the color thing on my 6T like 3-4 years ago   that was fixed after like 6 months  and I never had any issues with that anymore till the 1st  Android/OxygenOS 12 update but it hasn't done that anymore (that i've seen lately)   it just doesn't give me the  signal strength much anymore  it'll show it for like 5 mins then  switch to  "--"  and stay that way 

Sometimes if I close it out and reopen it  it'll come back (tho the icon is delayed showing up for like a min  or so when it used to show up instantly) but after a few mins it's back to showing "--" again and other times it'll just come back to the "--"

Hey All

I'm wondering if i'm the only 1 having an issue with the latest build?   If it's open for a bit and changes from 4G to 5G  or from 5G to 4G   the signal strength will dissapear and be replaced with  --   sometimes closing it out and re-opening it will fix it  sometimes it just comes back to --     and sometimes   the color won't change  on white backgrounds (not always the case but on occasions)    I'm using OnePlus  8T with OxygenOS 12   I'm on T-Mobile so not sure if it's a T-Mo issue    an Android 12 issue  OOS12 issue  or an issue with the App it's self    

I do know  2-4 years ago  on OnePlus 6T  the issue with the color  was a problem  but it was a perm thing not an off and on thing (like it is now)    until  I got in contact with the creator of the app as well as OnePlus  and it was eventually fixed I never had a problem since then till around March when i got the OOS12 update  I did contact the creator via email  but never got a response

T-Mobile rep put in a ticket for me on the b41 issue  apparently they shut it down and started to convert it over to T-Mobile on June 28th (that's about when i stopped being able to connect.)  They said they don't have an exact time frame but estimate it about 90 days.

If there are no issues can it be completed and turned back on before that time?  Just curious lol

14 minutes ago, The_Chemist said:

Latches on to Sprint and only sees Sprint as neighbor cells. Completely ignores all the available good signal from T-Mo. 

This is what mine said before Monday  that b41 with that little 2  and it said 310120   but if u turn on the alt PLMN thing like he said   it started reading at 310260   but i can't stay connected to it anymore and when I do connect it there's no data at all  and Cellmapper reads it as Test PLMN 1-1 b41  

As for b71  I had a guy named Travis in DM on Twitter @TMobileHelp said the strongest signal was going live on July 2nd (it didn't or I can't ever connect to it  like it doesn't exsist) all I can connect to and actually get data is b2 and b12 tho it sometimes has 2-3 bars with no data then lose signal.

On 6/30/2021 at 10:41 PM, Dkoellerwx said:

Ah, didn't know that. It's possible the site was broadcasting the keep PLMN, but it didn't show in SCP without the alternate ID setting turned on (under preferences and general).

I turned this on the other night     I got connected to b41 again a few mins ago  SCP  read 310260  which i believe is T-Mo PLMN  but again it disconnected a few secs later.

It was in SCP   OnePlus doesn't really give you an engineering screen for some odd reason.

btw the PLMN  was 310-120

Just now, Dkoellerwx said:

It's odd then that you were connecting to Sprint B41. It must be a keep site, and your signal must be weak enough on T-Mobile that your phone was finding the B41 preferable even though it was Sprint. Did you ever see any of the other Sprint bands or just B41? Hopefully it will be converted sooner rather than later so your experience can improve.

Nope just b41 and I realized in the last post I forgot to mention the b41 PLMN was 310-120

6 minutes ago, Dkoellerwx said:

Sprint B41 and T-Mobile B41 are still operating in tandem here. T-Mobile has 40Mhz of n41 on air, plus 2x20Mhz of B41. Sprint still has 2x20Mhz of B41 on air as well. However, anywhere there is Sprint B41, there is generally also a T-Mobile signal so I haven't seen Sprint B41 except in rare cases for a long time. 

Couple questions for you... which device are you using, and what SIM configuration? I'm guessing you're still using a "Sprint" SIM (TNA)? That's what it sounds like.

Was there no T-Mobile signal in the area you pick up Sprint B41? Usually if there is any T-Mobile signal, a TNA or TNX device will prefer that over Sprint. When you were connected to the Sprint B41, did you notice which PLMN was displayed, did it say Sprint Keep on SCP? 

I can't think of any reason for the network behavior that you described, particularly the weird PLMN. If they were converting the cell site to T-Mobile, the signal would go away completely. Sprint B41 won't magically become T-Mobile, they have to swap out the equipment. 

I'm not on Sprint  I'm on T-Mobile  but either early May or early June i started connecting to b41  so that was short lived LOL     but  I'm on OnePlus 8T (unlocked version not T-Mobile version) and my house is very problematic with b2/12. 

I was using a signal booster which gave me a signal anywhere from -70 to -95  but i recently found out it limits my speeds  I get no more 9Mbps with it  and with it unplugged I get 9-25Mbps depending on the time of day but with it unpluged I get anywhere from -110 to -130    tho the Sprint b41 signal was weak 2 avging about the same but MUCH faster speeds

33 minutes ago, PedroDaGr8 said:

Tmobile reduced Sprint B41 to a single carrier in thr PNW a few weeks ago. It is possible they did the same in your area or have even reduced it to no Sprint B41.

20+15 could mean both are B41 or some sort of carrier aggregation.

Ya i get that with the CA   but the point is  I was able to connect to it and got better speeds than on T-Mobiles b2 and 12 (both 2 and 12 were only a 5x5 network)    If they just turned it off tho  how would it connect to Test PLMN 1-1?   And btw i wanted to edit that post but it wouldn't let me lol it didn't say Test PLMN 1-1 4G   it said Test PLMN 1-1 b41     in the settings menu under Operaters  it said Test PLMN 1-1 4G   but on cellmapper it said b41 after the 1-1 it just didn't have any data and would disconnect after only 5 secs   so I was just wondering IF  they are converting it to a T-Mobile b41  how long would it take them to do it?  I was told by a rep on Twitter about a week ago that the 600Mhz was going live on July 2nd  but they don't have access to Sprints towers till after they are converted.

Hey guys I have another question  tho I guess this question would be for someone who has had b41 on Sprint then switched over to b41 on T-Mobile

Either in early May or early June  I started being able to connect to Sprints b41 and getting AMAZING download speeds. I'm talking 30-60Mbps down inside  60-110 outside  and  on Hwy 27 up to 170Mbps tho upload speeds were very bad  up to 2Mbps but as  low as 0.30  anyway  yesterday and today  suddenly I can't connect  and if it does connect it says Test PLMN 1-1 4G but has no data then disconnects 5 secs later.

Before yesterday when it connected to Sprints b41  it said Sprint b41²  in Signal Check Pro and when it showed LTE+  Signal Check Pro said 15+20Mhz (or 20+15 I can't remember which) usually said 15Mhz. Anyway i'm thinking that maybe they are converting this tower to T-Mobile b41.   IF this is the case  how long does this usually take to do so?  As far as I know it ONLY had b41 on this tower or atleast according to Cellmapper it did

Hey all

I  sent an email Wednesday evening to Mike Sievert  CEO of T-Mobile about upgrades in my area.  Lastnight (Thursday) I got a call back from a guy in TX  named Marcus  who said that  T-Mo was currently doing tower modernizations in my area and that they would be starting upgrades next month.   What does tower modernizations intail exactly?    My friend said  that just means upgrades  but if so that makes no sense to me    Can someone explain?

15 minutes ago, Paynefanbro said:

It's super dependent on where you live. In NYC since most cell sites are on top of buildings, you can look at public building permits and usually they're listed as "-AL" which is an alteration permit. In the notes they'll usually talk about "telecommunications equipment". Very rarely is that actually carrier named though.

On the other hand for Greenville, NC where I visit family pretty often, you can search the public permit database for any carrier and find all permits for that specific carrier. Searching for T-Mobile, Verizon, AT&T, or U.S. Cellular beings up permits for their sites and lists all changes that are going to be made to the site from backhaul upgrades to antennas changes and cabinet replacements.

I don't even know where to look  lol  but I live in Somerset, KY  if that helps

4 minutes ago, jonathanm1978 said:

Good luck. Alabama doesn't have much to show either.

That sucks.  I've been trying to find out cause where I live I don't have very good coverage without the signal booster T-Mo gave me (which also loses signal from time to time lol)  I thought we would have b71 by now  cause I was in stage 6 which cleared in Oct of 2019.  

Lately  my signal booster has been losing signal about ever 10 mins or so and other times i'd connect to Sprints b41 but with signal stregnth between -111 and -130   Tforce on Twitter say they aren't seeing any upgrades  planned for the next 6 months (tho that was over a month ago) so I was curious if there were any permits.

How do you guys find out about upgrades and permits?   I've googled everything i can think of and only thing i get is  building inspections,  tower lease rates, Verizon stores  tower locations. etc.  but nothing on cell tower permits

If the tower has NV upgrades then they would have installed the necessary equipment for 1x800 but it just hasn't been activated yet. There are hand-off issues from CDMA 800 to 1900 which usually results in dropped calls. Because of this issue they really need to turn 800 voice on in clusters but Ericsson doesn't work on sites in clusters. I'm hoping with the progress in the West and East KY markets that they we will see a surge of 800 sometime in Q1.

That makes 2 of us  LOL  where I live I usually have 3 bars (or dots since it's an iPhone) or less  sometimes it'll go down to 2  then 1  then lose signal completely and I have to either turn it off and back on or do an update  and sometimes when it loses signals completely  the update doesn't even work so I have no choice but to turn the phone off and back on   gets quiet annoying to say the least lol

Ok thanks  I'm just wondering if it has anything to do with what someone mentioned in another thread on here about Ericsson  blocking the 800Mhz  even tho it's installed

hey guys just wondering are any of you in the Lexington/Danville/Somerset areas able to connect to 800Mhz voice at all?   several reps have told me that 800Mhz voice was completed in Sept (I believe on a tower that was 1.35 miles from my house not sure if they meant the whole area or not)    I joined Sprint Oct 31st/Nov 1st  (ordered phone/service Oct 31st and activated on Nov 1st) and have never once been able to connect to it.    I have the iPhone 5c  so dunno if it's actually the network or the phone it's self

vzw had very different objectives with their LTE deployment than sprint does. They just wanted to blanket the country with coverage first and worry about capacity later. They used 700 MHz first and are going back with AWS I believe and strengthening their capacity. It was a pretty straightforward network overlay rather than what Sprint is doing...

 

Sprint OTOH is rebuilding their entire network. Piece by piece, site by site. Not specifically targeting coverage as much as just trying to get it done.

so they are doing it on every tower? just little at a time?  (Verizon I mean) I knew Sprint was doing that  I have been keeping up as much as i can with NV  (mostly in my area lol) as well as other companies  cause  I was tired of paying Verizons over priced under capped  prices   I had planned to switch to Sprint in Jan when my contract was up with Verizon but just said screw this and broke my contract on Oct 31st/Nov 1st  and switched to Sprint anyway   at the time tho  1 of the reps told me they added 800Mhz to a tower about 1.35 miles from my house   which actually happened to be 3G data not voice

It sounds like you're relying on Sprint's official coverage maps, which around here are known to be very inaccurate with respect to the extent of LTE coverage. You will never have Sprint LTE where you lack native voice/text service. The superior propagation of CDMA 1xA on 800 MHz compared to what anyone else can currently provide (plus how well it fits into the small slice of SMR left after deploying LTE) means VoLTE will supplement, not replace, CDMA service for the foreseeable future.

no the coverage map for Sprint has been the same for the past year or so in my area for voice that has never changed LTE however has changed in my area  it's lit up with orange now.   But the  network updates site http://network.sprint.com/ for  Somerset, KY 42501  says there has been 5 data speed upgrades in the last 6 months  and no voice    however if u  just put in 42501  you will get a bigger area that says 11 upgrades  1 voice  and that is around London, KY I believe

Uh, no. LTE coverage is more limited and fragile compared to that of CDMA1X. You have some learning to do. But you are in the right place to get the correct info.

 

AJ

Wouldn't  Verizon had put LTE on every tower if this was the case?  (just trying to understand lol)     I read they only put  LTE  on a select few towers  within a market

There are two issues I see with HSPA/LTE as Sprint's future technology track:

 

1. The 800 MHz spectrum Sprint owns is too narrow for use of W-CDMA. WCDMA and HSPA require 5 MHz chunks. With 800 LTE coming that's 5x5, that takes up all the head room for the 800 MHz spectrum. 

2. Everything is migrating to VoLTE long term anyway, I would rather see Sprint skate to where the puck is going (LTE, TD-LTE, VoLTE) than where it is now (CDMA voice and WCDMA voice). 

See I agree with VoLTE  I think it would be a lot better  than  the CDMA voice as far as coverage goes  cause I can see in my area LTE has a lot better coverage on Sprint than the voice does  the 800Mhz LTE  would make it even better I believe

No thanks.  LTE 800 + CDMA1X 800 trumps W-CDMA 1900 or W-CDMA 2100+1700.

 

So, if you want HSPA+, you are giving up on SMR 800 MHz.

 

AJ

But isn't HSPA+  a faster 3G  network? I mean I have read cases where ppl get 12-25Mbps on HSPA+ alone. And with VoLTE   it wouldn't matter  would it?   Not  trying to argue here  just asking your opinion on the matter  but tbh  I don't think we have 800Mhz voice installed here in my town    cause when u check the updates thing on Sprint site  it says 5 data updates  in the past 6 months  but someone told me the otherday  that  Ericsson  blocks 800Mhz  as well  so  I am confused.

Do not use a phone app to compare coverage.  Use the actual operators' coverage tools on a full size device.  If you do, you will see that T-Mobile does not have even close to the "2G" native coverage breadth that unverified source displays.

 

AJ

I did what you said on the laptop and  it seems  less  than what the phone app showed like u mentioned  but not by a whole lot  it still has more coverage than Sprint does in Kentucky  If  Sprint/T-Mobile was converted to HSPA+  it  might actually have great coverage I Think.   

Do you know if there is away to tell where T-Mo's  towers are in my area?   Sprint only has 4 towers and  If T-Mos are at different locations than where  Sprints are   it might actually  improve my area

T-Mobile does not cover 80 percent of Kentucky with "2G," "3G," or any "G."  Are you sure that you are looking at the correct maps?  Do not include roaming.  As is typical, native coverage footprint in the state is quite similar between T-Mobile and Sprint.

 

AJ

AJ  here is pics of the maps  for Sprint and  T-Mo