Mobilesolutions Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 That is all you needed to say. Thank you. Now, forgetting the current situation, can we figure out how this will be possible? (2 years from now?) It's possible tomorrow, We have 76 MHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It's possible tomorrow, I have 76 MHz. What do you mean you have 76Mhz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedub Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It's possible tomorrow, I have 76 MHz. Sweet, I'll take 76MHz to the prem please, just in time for the weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 What do you mean you have 76Mhz? Spectrum licences, for a network. Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming All of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 You are still thinking locally rather than globally. Any international expansion may be handled by Softbank and not Sprint. Additionally, Sprints bandwidth holdings have nothing to do with international expansion AND if the numbers are right includes the cost of entering said markets. It may not make sense for Sprint to enter Mexico and/or Canada but it may make sense for Softbank to do it. I don't care if I am thinking locally instead of globally. The fact is that Softbank's investment in Sprint is going to take away a lot of financial flexibility for Softbank to just go look into new ventures AT THIS POINT. I never said that Softbank can't ever explore international ventures, I was just saying at this point. Also I don't see the reason why there has to be a sudden urgency to enter the international market? Even if it is handled by Softbank, what motivation does Softbank have to enter the Canadian market for example? I won't even mention Mexico since there isn't rumors about Mexican carriers. It was obvious for Softbank to bid on Sprint because they wanted the vast 2.5 GHz spectrum holdings and the potential it can be used to provide an insane LTE network but what is the motivation for entering Canada? Is it to try to offer a lower cost option of Canadian cell phone service for Canadian citizens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Spectrum licences, for a network. All of them. Who owns all that Spectrum? Care to introduce yourself? What frequency? Edited September 6, 2013 by EmeraldReporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dave Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Who owns all that Spectrum? Care to introduce yourself? What frequency? It's the man behind the curtain. Pay no attention to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It's the man behind the curtain. Pay no attention to him. So, mobilesolutions is all talk, no cajones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dave Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 No, I would listen to what he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Who owns all that Spectrum? Care to introduce yourself? What frequency? My name is William, I have the spectrum licenses; but all of "us" every single American. We own the spectrum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) My name is William, I have the spectrum licenses; but all of "us" every single American. We own the spectrum. What frequency do you own then? Or are you just BS-ing me? Edited September 6, 2013 by EmeraldReporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 What frequency do you own then? Answer me that. These 3 bands will be used first. 905-925 20 Mhz TDD, 3652-3672 20Mhz TDD, 3677-3697 20Mhz TDD 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas L. Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 What frequency do you own then? Answer me that. He won't answer because he doesn't want to give away his hand. You'll find out when his service launches commercially, like the rest of us. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas L. Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 These 3 bands will be used first. 905-925 20 Mhz TDD, 3652-3672 20Mhz TDD, 3677-3697 20Mhz TDD Awwww he got more out of you than I did! Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) These 3 bands will be used first. 905-925 20 Mhz TDD, 3652-3672 20Mhz TDD, 3677-3697 20Mhz TDD I don't get it. You've confused me to no end... Are you an MVNO, or regional? GSM, or CDMA? It takes $100,000 to start an MVNO... Commencing something along the lines of Alltel? We're talking millions... Edited September 6, 2013 by EmeraldReporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Awwww he got more out of you than I did! Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 You waited long enough https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rlye67HiBW5bacO2BfoPhcuEKMEfNvkxOG8S8KIvqG4/edit?pli=1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas L. Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 You waited long enough https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rlye67HiBW5bacO2BfoPhcuEKMEfNvkxOG8S8KIvqG4/edit?pli=1 Awesome! Tu! Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) You waited long enough https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rlye67HiBW5bacO2BfoPhcuEKMEfNvkxOG8S8KIvqG4/edit?pli=1 That's neat. You're gonna' be the next Clearwire. Will you form roaming agreements with Sprint? I'd like that. Not with T-Mo, not with VZW, and definitely not with AT&T. You're on our side right? With unlimited roaming, right?? *wink, wink* Will you be LTE only? Will you implement VoLTE for Sprint use on the 900Mhz freq.? Edited September 6, 2013 by EmeraldReporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I am unsure of my road of roaming agreements. I am most definitely on your side. Central Valley of California is in dire need of competition if you ever think of expanding over here as Google is not thanks to the "red tape". The various counties are extremely efficient and the cities are a hit and miss but far, far better than those in the bay area or major metros like socal. Maybe start with West Sacramento, Yolo County, or Sacramento county... 'wink wink' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Central Valley of California is in dire need of competition if you ever think of expanding over here as Google is not thanks to the "red tape". The various counties are extremely efficient and the cities are a hit and miss but far, far better than those in the bay area or major metros like socal. Maybe start with West Sacramento, Yolo County, or Sacramento county... 'wink wink' I was born in San Fran, careful now. Sac town, Redding, Trinity county, all of Cali. Give it time, I want wireless EVERYWHERE. That's neat. You're gonna' be the next Clearwire. Will you form roaming agreements with Sprint? I'd like that. Not with T-Mo, not with VZW, and definitely not with AT&T. You're on our side right? With unlimited roaming, right?? *wink, wink* Will you be LTE only? Will you implement VoLTE for Sprint use on the 900Mhz freq.? If i had a roaming agreement with Sprint, I would not be in disapproval of trialing VoLte over 900. An unlimited hotspot? I smell throttling. The options are manicured data speeds with a cap or unlimited with throttling. If we left the network's traffic controls untouched unlimited it could get us by for a while, but eventually with full saturation we would be back to square 1. *edit, not square 1. Realistically, in an unlimited and untouched (network IP Qos disabled) full unlimited environment with an MSSTDMA setup you will still have a fast connection, but you would be pushed back in the que of any available sector until your slot arrives. It could be 32ms, it could be 250ms. The biggest difference between a cap and unlimited is the average speed you will see running if your a type who runs the speedtest.net application; which many of us are quite fond of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 @mobilesolutions Is it possible that the 900MHZ that Sprint has can be interoperable with your 900Mhz? Can I work for your company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas L. Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 William, what is that 905-925mhz block? Is it from AM radio? Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 @mobilesolutions Is it possible that the 900MHZ that Sprint has can be interoperable with your 900Mhz? Can I work for your company? If i moved down to 902 it could be 896-926 all used for Sprint/Eon. I know there is some low end noise in 902-904 & 926-928; but given the legal power limits within the ISM band an encrypted network will still operate through low interference in those sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansltx Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Hate to let everyone down on this thread, but those spectrum licenses are for "Light licensed" 3.65GHz. I forget the name of the WiMAX provider that used this spectrum and then went belly-up, taking a lot of BTOP or equivalent funding with them. Was a few years ago. The spectrum itself isn't bad, but there isn't much of it, it's effectively fixed-only (speaking from indirect experience from a telephone co-op that deployed in the band) and you don't have it all to yourself. A license costs under $200 for 10 years nationwide, though you can't operate in 3.65 "Exclusion Zones" around a number of large cities. Unlicensed 900MHz. This one's a minefield, because the majority of smart meters run in this band. As do a number of existing wireless service providers (WISPs). And, again, not much spectrum there. Can you run an actual mobile network on either band? All signs point to no...the closest thing you can do is something like Clearwire's desktop modem: a relatively high-powered, self-installed device. Am I saying that this is all a bad idea? Well, no...it's being done to some extent by a ton of WISPs out there. Heck, if I wasn't so busy writing software I'd execute on what's been a dream of mine since high school. But it's no panacea. Unless I'm missing some secret sauce that William knows and I don't (like hardware that's nearly as cost-effective as Ubiquiti gear but much more performant...or almost as performant and in a much smaller form factor). Oh, and you aren't going to find LTE in either of those bands. The LTE airlink is way too fragile to perform well with any level of interference that can't be managed tightly (aka you must have full-on licensed spectrum). For what it's worth, if you could convince Globalstar to let you rent TLPS from them, you could run TD-LTE on that. But none of us here have the money to do that for more than a few days. Lastly, if you're doing fixed wireless, 5.x GHz or MV-DDS spectrum (~12GHz) is preferable to lower bands, due to the capacity available. MV-DDS is actually available in a few (rural) areas on reasonable licensing terms, though most of it is owned by...you guessed it...Dish. 5.x is the same spectrum that 802.11ac routers ramp up on, so it'll get more cluttered as time goes on. But it'll still be usable for high-bandwidth PtMP fixed wireless for awhile yet, and you can actually compete with the lower end of cable on a speed basis. And it's a heck of a lot cheaper to deploy than LTE (the equipment as well as the licenses) or fiber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansltx Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Re: Sprint in 900, not gonna happen. That band doesn't work for wideband (anything beyond XX KHz) communications, which is what you'd want in this case. Besides, folks other than the public at large own those channels. Public safety, Sprint, or whoever. You might be able to tune existing 900MHz equipment to send/receive on those frequencies, but then you'd be breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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