marioc21 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Clearwire just released it's quarterly financials along with a listing of their first 4g LTE cities. They're calling them 4G Hot Zones. As previously expected they're saying they won't launch until the first half of 2013. A total of 31 markets are planned. Initial Cities mentioned by name: Los Angeles Seattle San Francisco Chicago New York http://corporate.cle...eleaseID=667820 Financials: http://corporate.cle...eleaseID=667819 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I would project that the 31 markets are -- for optimal reuse of existing infrastructure and backhaul -- major cities with substantial (read: not license protection) WiMAX deployment. Seattle San Francisco Los Angeles Las Vegas Salt Lake City Denver Kansas City Dallas Austin San Antonio Houston Minneapolis St. Louis Chicago Nashville Cincinnati Columbus Cleveland Pittsburgh Atlanta Tampa Orlando Miami Jacksonville Charlotte Greensboro Raleigh-Durham Richmond Washington, DC Baltimore Philadelphia New York Boston By my count, that is 33 markets, nearly spot on. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopher_otis Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) I would project that the 31 markets are -- for optimal reuse of existing infrastructure and backhaul -- major cities with substantial (read: not license protection) WiMAX deployment. Seattle San Francisco Los Angeles Las Vegas Salt Lake City Denver Kansas City Dallas Austin San Antonio Houston Minneapolis St. Louis Chicago Nashville Cincinnati Columbus Cleveland Pittsburgh Atlanta Tampa Orlando Miami Jacksonville Charlotte Greensboro Raleigh-Durham Richmond Washington' date=' DC Baltimore Philadelphia New York Boston By my count, that is 33 markets, nearly spot on. AJ[/quote'] By Orlando does that mean strictly Orlando or central FL in general? I live in central FL and we pretty much consider this the Orlando area. Also, I see that Daytona isn't on the list and I know that they currently have WiMAX coverage there. Sent via Forum Runner on my redsn0w iOS 5.1 iPhone 4 Edited April 26, 2012 by gopher_otis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I would project that the 31 markets are -- for optimal reuse of existing infrastructure and backhaul -- major cities with substantial (read: not license protection) WiMAX deployment. Seattle San Francisco Los Angeles Las Vegas Salt Lake City Denver Kansas City Dallas Austin San Antonio Houston Minneapolis St. Louis Chicago Nashville Cincinnati Columbus Cleveland Pittsburgh Atlanta Tampa Orlando Miami Jacksonville Charlotte Greensboro Raleigh-Durham Richmond Washington, DC Baltimore Philadelphia New York Boston By my count, that is 33 markets, nearly spot on. AJ Hopefully we can get a Clearwire inside source that can provide more color on the Clearwire LTE rollout. I really like the list AJ. Also why isn't Portland on the list? I would remove Cincinnati and replace with Portland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irev210 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hopefully we can get a Clearwire inside source that can provide more color on the Clearwire LTE rollout. I really like the list AJ. Yes, I am really curious about the following How "new" of a network is this compared to WiMAX? What improvements to backhaul need to be made? Will Clear be retailing no-contract LTE devices like they did with WiMAX? How many 20MHz channels do they plan to aggregate? How much spectrum are they planning to deploy? Sounds like WiMAX will be around for the foreseeable future. Will clearwire continue to build-out new WiMAX markets if they are going in to deploy TD-LTE in a new location? Many other questions... but those are the big ones. I hope new clearwire is nothing like old clearwire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I hope that Visalia gets a full LTE rollout since they are a full WiMax Deployment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david279 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Clear dodges new orleans again its cool. There's always sprint LTE. Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Clear dodges new orleans again its cool. There's always sprint LTE. Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 Clearwire is not dodging New Orleans. New Orleans does not have the existing Wimax footprint and Clearwire has made it clear that they plan to add the LTE overlay on top of its existing Wimax footprint. Also AJ's list of potential LTE markets are not official other than Los Angeles, SF, Chicago, Seattle and New York but the list does look pretty convincing that those markets would be chosen to add a LTE overlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david279 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I was joking. But good info though. Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphnasx Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 http://corporate.clearwire.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=667820 Clearwire TDD-LTE Network to Serve 4G "Hot Zones" in New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, Seattle and More TDD-LTE Network Planned for High Demand "Hot Zones" in 31 Markets Initial Market Launches Scheduled for Early 2013, with Remaining Markets Planned for Mid-2013 BELLEVUE, Wash., April 26, 2012 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) --Clearwire Corporation (Nasdaq:CLWR) today announced that New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago and Seattle will be among the 31 cities where the company will launch its TDD-LTE network during the first half of 2013. Deployment of Clearwire's TDD-LTE network will target high demand "hot zones" in major urban centers where demand for 4G mobile broadband access is high and the need for deep 4G capacity resources is most acute. "Our new 4G network will show that not all LTE networks are created equal," said Erik Prusch, President and CEO of Clearwire. "Clearwire's LTE Advanced-ready network will deploy our deep spectrum resources for the next great era in mobile broadband in which capacity is king. We're positioned to bring much needed capacity on a wholesale basis to address the unbridled demand for mobile data and the scarcity of spectrum in major urban and suburban markets." Clearwire LTE: The Next-Generation of 4G Clearwire's next-generation LTE Advanced-ready network will be a major advancement over the current LTE networks deployed in the U.S. By leveraging its deep spectrum holdings to commercialize large contiguous swaths of spectrum in a given market, Clearwire believes its LTE Advanced-ready network will further differentiate it as a leader in next-generation 4G mobile broadband technology, capable of serving the current and anticipated future demands of wholesale and retail customers. The company will announce the additional cities where it will launch TDD-LTE service at a later date. About Clearwire Clearwire Corporation (Nasdaq:CLWR), through its operating subsidiaries, is a leading provider of 4G wireless broadband services offering services in areas of the U.S. where more than 130 million people live. The company holds the deepest portfolio of wireless spectrum available for data services in the U.S. Clearwire serves retail customers through its own CLEAR® brand as well as through wholesale relationships with some of the leading companies in the retail, technology and telecommunications industries, including Sprint and NetZero. The company is constructing a next-generation 4G LTE Advanced-ready network to address the capacity needs of the market, and is also working closely with the Global TDD-LTE Initiative and China Mobile to further the TDD-LTE ecosystem. Clearwire is headquartered in Bellevue, Wash. Additional information is available at http://www.clearwire.com. Forward-Looking Statements This release, and other written and oral statements made by Clearwire from time to time, contain forward-looking statements which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, as well as on a number of assumptions concerning future events made with information that is currently available. Forward-looking statements may include, without limitation, management's expectations regarding future financial and operating performance and financial condition; proposed transactions; network development and market launch plans; strategic plans and objectives; industry conditions; the strength of the balance sheet; and liquidity and financing needs. The words "will," "would," "may," "should," "estimate," "project," "forecast," "intend," "expect," "believe," "target," "designed," "plan" and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Readers are cautioned not to put undue reliance on such forward-looking statements, which are not a guarantee of performance and are subject to a number of uncertainties and other factors, many of which are outside of Clearwire's control, which could cause actual results to differ materially and adversely from such statements. Some factors that could cause actual results to differ are: We have a history of operating losses and we expect to continue to realize significant net losses for the foreseeable future. If our business fails to perform as we expect or if we incur unforeseen expenses in the near term, we may require additional capital to fund our current business. Also, we will need substantial additional capital over the long-term. Such additional capital may not be available on acceptable terms or at all. If we fail to obtain additional capital, our business prospects, financial condition and results of operations will likely be materially and adversely affected, and we will be forced to consider all available alternatives. Our current plans and projections are based on a number of assumptions about our future performance, which may prove to be inaccurate, such as our ability to substantially expand our wholesale business and the expected timing and costs of deploying LTE on our wireless broadband network. Our business has become increasingly dependent on our wholesale partners, and Sprint in particular. If we do not receive the amount of revenues we expect from existing wholesale partners or if we are unable to enter into new agreements with additional wholesale partners for significant new wholesale commitments, our business prospects, results of operations and financial condition could be adversely affected, or we could be forced to consider all available alternatives. We regularly evaluate our plans, and we may elect to pursue new or alternative strategies which we believe would be beneficial to our business, including among other things, expanding our network coverage to new markets, augmenting our network coverage in existing markets, changing our sales and marketing strategy and/or acquiring additional spectrum. Such modifications to our plans could significantly change our capital requirements. We plan to deploy LTE on our wireless broadband network, alongside mobile WiMAX and we will incur significant costs to deploy such technology. Additionally, LTE technology, or other alternative technologies that we may consider, may not perform as we expect on our network and deploying such technologies would result in additional risks to the company, including uncertainty regarding our ability to successfully add a new technology to our current network and to operate dual technology networks without disruptions to customer service, as well as our ability to generate new wholesale customers for the new network. We currently depend on our commercial partners to develop and deliver the equipment for our legacy and mobile WiMAX networks, and will be dependent on commercial partners to deliver equipment and devices for our planned LTE network as well. Many of our competitors for our retail business are better established and have significantly greater resources, and may subsidize their competitive offerings with other products and services. Our substantial indebtedness and restrictive debt covenants could limit our financing options and liquidity position and may limit our ability to grow our business. Sprint owns just less than a majority of our common shares, is our largest shareholder, and has the contractual ability to obtain enough shares to hold the majority voting interest in the company, and Sprint may have, or may develop in the future, interests that may diverge from other stockholders. Future sales of large blocks of our common stock may adversely impact our stock price. For a more detailed description of the factors that could cause such a difference, please refer to Clearwire's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the information under the heading "Risk Factors" in our Annual Report on Form 10-K filed on February 16, 2012 and in subsequent Form 10-Q filings. Clearwire assumes no obligation to update or supplement such forward-looking statements. 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Sgt. Slaughter Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Wonder if they will start to shutter Wimax off as they roll lte on those locations....I know sprint said they'd support Wimax through 2015 but never stated how much or where to my recall... Just can't see Clear running dual equipment everywhere....as that'd be a lil wasteful imho... Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroscott Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Wonder if they will start to shutter Wimax off as they roll lte on those locations....I know sprint said they'd support Wimax through 2015 but never stated how much or where to my recall... Just can't see Clear running dual equipment everywhere....as that'd be a lil wasteful imho... Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2 Except that they are starting to offer wimax to prepaid, freedompop and netzero. I'm sure clearwire will continue to offer wimax as long as revenue keeps rolling in. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Except that they are starting to offer wimax to prepaid, freedompop and netzero. I'm sure clearwire will continue to offer wimax as long as revenue keeps rolling in. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Agreed. As long as they can make money with it, why shut it down? I know their ultimate goal is to migrate all their customers to LTE, but until they complete their complete overlay, they need to keep all the existing WiMax towers going. I'm curious to know who they have as the vendor to put up the equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4GHoward Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 This looks like another iDEN to CDMA Strategy as iDEN is WiMAX and CDMA is LTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themuffinman Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Except that they are starting to offer wimax to prepaid, freedompop and netzero. I'm sure clearwire will continue to offer wimax as long as revenue keeps rolling in. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 What other source of revenue do they have? They have to continue to offer wimax service so they can afford their lte role out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenChase7 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 What other source of revenue do they have? They have to continue to offer wimax service so they can afford their lte role out. Sprint? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themuffinman Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Sprint? lol LMAO!!!!!! I literally busted out laughing. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4GHoward Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 What about Leap Wireless? Don't forget that Leap Wireless entered an LTE Agreement with Clearwire to provide additional LTE Capacity to its Cricket Communications customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroscott Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I would think that clearwire will have to offer wimax about 2-3 years after wimax phones are completely discontinued. Unless there is something up Sprint's sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Clearwire still has their own customers that use WiMax service. Some of those people are still on iSpots (like me) and pay next to nothing for our service each month. Killing off WiMax would make those people mad, and then they would lose their customers, thereby making their financial situation worse. Their earnings call was depressing enough with a Net Operating Loss of over $400 million still. Keeping WiMax for as long as possible can only help them. When it comes time to shut it down, it will cost them money to remove the old WiMax equipment. They don't have the extra funds to waste on removing it as they turn on LTE on a city-by-city basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroscott Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Clearwire still has their own customers that use WiMax service. Some of those people are still on iSpots (like me) and pay next to nothing for our service each month. Killing off WiMax would make those people mad, and then they would lose their customers, thereby making their financial situation worse. Their earnings call was depressing enough with a Net Operating Loss of over $400 million still. Keeping WiMax for as long as possible can only help them. When it comes time to shut it down, it will cost them money to remove the old WiMax equipment. They don't have the extra funds to waste on removing it as they turn on LTE on a city-by-city basis. Not to mention that they have plenty of spectrum to run both wimax and lte. They can't afford to drive customers away and they can't afford to send free lte replacement devices. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Sprint signed a deal with Clearwire to provide Wimax until 2015. With the prepaid carriers in Virgin and Boost hopping on the Wimax train in June, I don't see them shutting it down anytime soon and I do truly believe that we will see Wimax until 2015. For one thing, Sprint wants to maximize its terms in the contract even if only prepaid users are using it. Sprint will certainly want to delay bringing on prepaid customers to LTE as long as they can until they can obtain enough useful spectrum to serve the postpaid, prepaid and wholesale customers with LTE. What Sprint really needs to do is to encourage as much capacity offloading (wifi offload, Wimax and LTE offload) as it can off of its 3G network to maintain a reasonable experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 What Sprint really needs to do is to encourage as much capacity offloading (wifi offload, Wimax and LTE offload) as it can off of its 3G network to maintain a reasonable experience. Agreed. Sprint can't afford to have pre-Network Vision happen again after Network Vision is completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 While i agree it just seems like a big cost to overtake for them...adding all that LTE hardware to towers on top of their Wimax stuff...less they are able to use the same backhaul for both or network cabinet and the likes... They have to support it till 2015 with sprint alone but never said how much they had to support as i recall so it could be one tower...LOL...less they ment the current coverage spots had to stay in service with Wimax till end of 2015... In the end they shoulda just jumped on the NV wagon and gotten the help of others to roll it out across the nation...sucks an agreement couldn't of been made between the two there... Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm very happy that Clearwire is finally seeing the light and cooperating with Sprint. They went way overbuilid with their deployment of Wimax instead of filling in capacity holes for Sprint. All those additional sites cost money to operate. On the other hand, a lot of the sites can accommodate both wimax and LTE at the same site with minimal additional expense. I still think that a Dish/Sprint merger makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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