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51 minutes ago, floorguy said:

Yea I am betting it's more the MFG side pushing for new phones (so they can sell more and make more money)  Vs carrier.. (which could give 2 craps how old the phone is on the network, they still get their money)  Plus the carrier MAY have to subsidize some to get people to switch over... or the mfg gives them a deal.. Either way, my money is on the mfg pushing for the new phones

I think selling new phones is a secondary concern for the manufacturers as it relates to this change.  The newest Samsung Galaxy phone on that list (the GS6 family) was released in 2015 with Android 5.0, and the last software update that Samsung released for it was Android 7.0 with the November 2018 security patches.  There's no way Samsung's developers are going to want to re-open that codebase to include T-Mobile's WiFi calling bits for the few S6 devices that are still out there on Sprint.  

Anyone using a phone on that list will have a bad network experience with the new T-Mobile anyway, as they all certainly lack B71 and VoLTE.  I think 5 years is about the upper limit of what folks should reasonably expect for the useful life of a smartphone, and again, most of the devices on this list are even older than that.

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And what will this all mean for S4GRU?  We are in a wait and see mode before we decide how to adapt.  Until then, we will be here every day with you all, plotting our wireless destiny. Robert

Alright.  There may not be a Sprint anymore, but the same rules apply.  Just incessant complaining about the old Sprint is getting old.  People will start checking out because it just will become a co

And this is the truth that many of us are going to learn.  T-Mobile is not perfect everywhere.  They have some markets where they have some real bad towers here and there.  And there are some entire m

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Does this mean I am ACTUALLY connected to NSA 5G?14b64d7de567371bf53573eea2b127fa.jpg

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That means standalone 5G

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4 minutes ago, Tengen31 said:

Broken link

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16 minutes ago, stlman314 said:

Found this today in STL

 

 

 

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Awesome how fast?

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25 minutes ago, stlman314 said:

Found this today in STL

 

 

 

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I was actually wrong that is NSA 5G. I was thinking that was the Samsung version of service mode but that's the sprint version

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7 minutes ago, Tengen31 said:

I was actually wrong that is NSA 5G. I was thinking that was the Samsung version of service mode but that's the sprint version

Yea this is the Samsung A71 5G through Sprint

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Yea this is the Samsung A71 5G through Sprint
What does*#0011# show? That's the Samsung version

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7 minutes ago, Tengen31 said:

What does*#0011# show? That's the Samsung version

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This is not the same location where the n41 Was

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Some positive news today is that I had to Venmo my new landlord for an APT between Berkeley and Brunswick streets. The Open Signal maps show that Sprint has little to no spectrum/bandwidth but T-Mobile has swaths of it. Needles to say it saved the day as I was able to search for his account complete the Venmo transaction in the basement of the building with my iPhone 11 Pro Max showing 3-4 bars of service. Had it still been Sprint I would have been shit out of luck... [emoji18][emoji1430]


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That means standalone 5G

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Wow awesome, I just got this phone and I've seen loads of actual SA 5G in my area.

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Wow awesome, I just got this phone and I've seen loads of actual SA 5G in my area.

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Sorry by I commented back, I was wrong it's not SA 5G, it's NSA

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14 minutes ago, PedroDaGr8 said:

Wow awesome, I just got this phone and I've seen loads of actual SA 5G in my area.

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Awesome! If you're tracking the n41 deployment on the east side, feel free to post updates in the sponsor forum! It would be great to get that data on our maps. 

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On 8/31/2020 at 7:44 PM, Cardsfan96 said:

 

(Sorry for the quote...on the web on my phone)

Back to Sprint link today. I guess the past two days was a test, or a rollout that didn't go as TMo would've liked. Speeds are solid, at least on the download side.

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58 minutes ago, Cardsfan96 said:

Where in STL? Was there any B41 LTE?

This is at the corner of Olive and Cross Creek drive. Just w/o of I-270. Hanging from the side of the building. B41 was a no show

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Awesome! If you're tracking the n41 deployment on the east side, feel free to post updates in the sponsor forum! It would be great to get that data on our maps. 

Sorry that was incorrect. Tengen31 corrected his statement to confirm I saw only NSA NR. So far I have only seen B71, B2, and B66 LTE+NR. That being said, I will definitely contribute any B41/N41 that I see. 

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...and back on T-Mobile's backbone. Seems like they got the speed issues sorted out; forcing B41 just netted me 130 Mbps down. Will have to check closer to the cell site tonight to see what top speeds are.

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48 minutes ago, iansltx said:

...and back on T-Mobile's backbone. Seems like they got the speed issues sorted out; forcing B41 just netted me 130 Mbps down. Will have to check closer to the cell site tonight to see what top speeds are.

How can you tell? IP address?

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Just now, JWMaloney said:

How can you tell? IP address?

Yep. Traceroutes time.out so can't really tell that way. Latency is also a good bit lower.

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Just set SignalCheck Pro to display the ip address (plus turn off wifi) then touch the ip adress and SCP will tell you which wireless carrier is being used.

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Either T-Mobile's local distribution network or their speedtest server is better tuned...hit a new personal record for download speeds on a mobile carrier just now: https://www.speedtest.net/result/a/6473933885

That's on Sprint B41 2CA. The nearby TMo site is ~150/26 when I'm close enough...unfortunately it takes three slices of spectrum (2x B4, 1x B2) to get 30 MHz FD and it seems they aren't bothering with upload CA around here so while latency is great (I think I saw 15ms tonight) on TMo's network, peak speeds aren't phenomenal (and decay a bit after a few blocks).

I wouldn't be surprised if TMo's reticence to throw n41 up here is partially due to EBS/BRS being a mess, and partially due to not having a wide anchor band to work with; 40 MHz of n41 plus a 10 MHz B66 anchor could probably get them 250 down, 20 up at a reasonable distance from the cell site, but AT&T has so much spectrum here that they can hit that on low-band NSA NR.

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