dewbertdc Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Paynefanbro said: I can confirm that I'm able to connect to Sprint Band 41 and Band 26 by forcing those bands. However, because I'm using an unlocked Android phone T-Mobile won't allow me to use domestic roaming data. I can only make calls. Interesting - the folks on that sub were saying that VoLTE wasn't working for them when they forced those bands. Can you share engineering mode or SCP screenshots? I'm intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbowens Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Looks like T-Mobile didn't get a lot of 3.5Ghz spectrum. Only 8 licenses in six counties: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-20-1009A2.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipJames89 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, clbowens said: Looks like T-Mobile didn't get a lot of 3.5Ghz spectrum. Only 8 licenses in six counties: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-20-1009A2.pdf Shentel bought some. I wonder if tmobile will acquire it or if Shentel will keep it for fixed broadband 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paynefanbro Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, dewbertdc said: Interesting - the folks on that sub were saying that VoLTE wasn't working for them when they forced those bands. Can you share engineering mode or SCP screenshots? I'm intrigued. Now it's saying "Not registered on network" when I attempt to make calls on Band 26. I guess it was a fluke earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, PhillipJames89 said: Shentel bought some. I wonder if tmobile will acquire it or if Shentel will keep it for fixed broadband They do want to offer (or do offer, not sure if it launched yet) a fixed broadband service. - Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingenium Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Their 2018-era FCC merger filings indicated that they were going to unify the RANs with MOCN as part of the transition, so hopefully that is still the plan. If the rumors of network integration being "complete" by the end of this month are true, we'll know soon enough.Sprint sites have begun broadcasting the Clearwire PLMN (311-490, the same one that T-Mobile broadcasts for Sprint roaming). Even my Airave has it, whereas it didn't a month or so ago. I'm pretty sure the reports on reddit showed T-Mobile customers using this PLMN on Sprint. So my assumption is that this is the PLMN for the merged network.We've seen other signs of true MOCN, such as T-Mobile neighbors showing up while connected to Sprint in some areas (for me this is only in rural areas. It doesn't happen in Pittsburgh for example, where Sprint has the better network). The phone only scans neighbors that the tower asks it to, so the tower is specifically asking the phone to check on the T-Mobile neighbors and report back signal strength and quality. Normally this is used so the tower can determine if it should do a handoff. I haven't seen it handoff from Sprint to T-Mobile directly (and can't get a NSG log to confirm it's a real handoff), but I know others have seen it happen. So it's definitely a sign that they're close to having active handoffs between both networks, which would effectively merge them.Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlman314 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 hours ago, dewbertdc said: T-Mo just issued a press release touting its N41 deployment. Here's the list of cities/towns they've deployed to so far: California Citrus La Puente Los Angeles Paramount San Fernando Willowbrook District of Columbia Washington D.C. Florida Azalea Park Holiday Progress Village Westchase Georgia Atlanta Gainesville Mableton North Atlanta Winder Illinois Bellwood Calumet City Chicago Chicago Heights Glendale Heights Hanover Park Ingalls Park Northlake Indiana Merrillville Maryland Towson Massachusetts Holbrook Waltham Michigan Bangor Decatur Minnesota Maplewood Missouri Jennings New Jersey Camden Cliffside Park Fort Lee Hasbrouck Heights North Arlington Palisades Park Paterson Roselle Totowa New York Copiague East Williston Freeport Garden City Garden City Park Harbor Isle Hempstead Island Park Lindenhurst Long Beach Malverne Park Oaks Middle Island Mineola New York Plainview West Hempstead Williston Park North Carolina Clemmons Kernersville Pineville Stallings Statesville Winston-Salem Oregon Aloha Newberg Sherwood Pennsylvania Braddock Colwyn Darby East Lansdowne Kerrtown Meadville Philadelphia Rankin Yeadon Texas Dallas Houston Nassau Bay Virginia Bailey's Crossroads Bull Run Highland Springs Lake Barcroft Newport News Sudley Tysons Corner Washington Geneva Oak Harbor Snohomish https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/5g-speeds-supercharged-for-millions-more-people Going to see if the Missouri one is active. Think it is STL city though. I know where the n41 antenna is on near there. But I notice it didn't have the other n41 locations on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 hours ago, dewbertdc said: Washington Geneva Oak Harbor Snohomish https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/5g-speeds-supercharged-for-millions-more-people There is only one N41 site in Snohomish - that's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Analyst: T-Mobile is now worth no less than $172 per share (current price: $118) https://seekingalpha.com/article/4371958-t-mobiles-new-price-target-offers-upside 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkoellerwx Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 hours ago, javon23 said: Maybe a dumb question I upgraded to the Note 20 Ultra assuming that the antennas would be tmobile. The phone still shows "Sprint by Tmobile". In the article it references million of Sprint customers needing to shift to T-Mobile 5G. Is the Note 20 Ultra future proof or am I still technically on Sprint's dying network and need to switch to a more compatible device in the near future? The S20 Ultra is about as future proof as a device can be at the moment. It should be pretty much locked to T-Mobile. You'll be fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroDaGr8 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 There is only one N41 site in Snohomish - that's funny.Snohomish isn't exactly a bustling metropolis. :-D For the downtown area, a single N41 tower is more than enough. Sent from my LG-LS998 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javon23 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Dkoellerwx said: The S20 Ultra is about as future proof as a device can be at the moment. It should be pretty much locked to T-Mobile. You'll be fine. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, PedroDaGr8 said: Snohomish isn't exactly a bustling metropolis. 😄 For the downtown area, a single N41 tower is more than enough. Sent from my LG-LS998 using Tapatalk Agreed, but I definitely wouldn't go as far as to say Snohomish is "covered" by n41. There are a lot of residential areas that remain uncovered by n41, some even by T-Mobile LTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdob07 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I found T-Mobile M-MIMO gear in Carbondale Illinois today, it wasn't yet live so not sure what bandwidth they'll deploy here. I'll have to check in Marion while I'm here and see if I find anymore. They are definitely needing more capacity around here. Im glad to see that they are deploying outside of major metro areas, though Carbondale does have Southern Illinois University. Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewbertdc Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 16 hours ago, ingenium said: Sprint sites have begun broadcasting the Clearwire PLMN (311-490, the same one that T-Mobile broadcasts for Sprint roaming). Even my Airave has it, whereas it didn't a month or so ago. I'm pretty sure the reports on reddit showed T-Mobile customers using this PLMN on Sprint. So my assumption is that this is the PLMN for the merged network. We've seen other signs of true MOCN, such as T-Mobile neighbors showing up while connected to Sprint in some areas (for me this is only in rural areas. It doesn't happen in Pittsburgh for example, where Sprint has the better network). The phone only scans neighbors that the tower asks it to, so the tower is specifically asking the phone to check on the T-Mobile neighbors and report back signal strength and quality. Normally this is used so the tower can determine if it should do a handoff. I haven't seen it handoff from Sprint to T-Mobile directly (and can't get a NSG log to confirm it's a real handoff), but I know others have seen it happen. So it's definitely a sign that they're close to having active handoffs between both networks, which would effectively merge them. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk Interesting stuff - the only place I know nearby that has no native T-Mobile service but a strong Sprint signal is my office in the basement level of a large office building (there's a Sprint DAS there). I may have to find an excuse to go in some day soon to see if my phone connects down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dog007 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 22 hours ago, PhillipJames89 said: Shentel bought some. I wonder if tmobile will acquire it or if Shentel will keep it for fixed broadband Well they bought it under Shenandoah Cable Television, LLC so TMobile won't be getting it. Shentel last year bought a 2.5GHz license for fixed wireless. Likely what they are gonna do with CBRS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dog007 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 23 hours ago, clbowens said: Looks like T-Mobile didn't get a lot of 3.5Ghz spectrum. Only 8 licenses in six counties: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-20-1009A2.pdf I'm not surprised with this. Or VZW outcome. Really only need those 40MHz in urban markets. Im a bit surprised with Dish though. They bought a license in almost every single county averaging 17.5MHz ownership. They went freaking nationwide. Why the heck wouldn't they use these millions of say deploying their network. They are still more interested in making a slick portfolio but not deploying it. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next 5 years Verizon buys Dish or even sooner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbowens Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 interesting. I'm sitting in my house, where I've always had good Sprint coverage. All of a sudden, my phone now says no service available. Something about unable to connect to T-Mobile. I wonder what they are doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8nuguy Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 hours ago, clbowens said: interesting. I'm sitting in my house, where I've always had good Sprint coverage. All of a sudden, my phone now says no service available. Something about unable to connect to T-Mobile. I wonder what they are doing. My phone did that a few days prior to picking up lte 600 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
though Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, gr8nuguy said: My phone did that a few days prior to picking up lte 600 Meaning it now prefers it over 41/25/26? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8nuguy Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, though said: Meaning it now prefers it over 41/25/26? Band 41 then T-Mobile then band 26 here (at least on my phone) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansltx Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Saw some B25 neighbors when checking SCP this evening. Judging by signal levels, they were Sprint sites. My phone was still preferring T-Mobile sites, and switching to B25 still showed as Sprint, but *something's* happening. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 According to Field Test on my iPhone 11 Pro, I'm now picking up the following at home here in DC: LTE Neighbor 0 Band 12 (-68 nbr_rsrp) LTE Neighbor 1 Band 41 (-80 nbr_rsrp) LTE Neighbor 2 Band 41 (-98 nbr_rsrp) LTE Neighbor 3 Band 41 (-101 nbr_rsrp) -- No Band 25/26. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I've been seeing T-Mobile neighbor cells for weeks (months?) now. They come and go though; it clearly checks for them, but then stops checking and reverts to Sprint bands. Maybe to enable roaming if needed? I often see US Cellular sites in the neighbor cells when I'm in that region as well. - Trip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 According to Field Test on my iPhone 11 Pro, I'm now picking up the following at home here in DC:LTE Neighbor 0 Band 12 (-68 nbr_rsrp)LTE Neighbor 1 Band 41 (-80 nbr_rsrp)LTE Neighbor 2 Band 41 (-98 nbr_rsrp)LTE Neighbor 3 Band 41 (-101 nbr_rsrp) -- No Band 25/26.You're connected to B12+41 CA? Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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