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Bah-daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah-Ching!   Like I said early a few comments up...        This is going to drag on forEVVVVVVVVER!!!!    As the Stomach Turns....   tune in tomorrow for another (Not) exciting episode....

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T-Mo's 2nd quarter results expected to be presented by July 30th....   I'm sure they are hoping to have some sort of answer by then... 

I'm thinking this is really taking a long time... they must be hung up on 1 or 2 key points and neither is budging on it....      

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T-Mo's 2nd quarter results expected to be presented by July 30th....   I'm sure they are hoping to have some sort of answer by then... 
I'm thinking this is really taking a long time... they must be hung up on 1 or 2 key points and neither is budging on it....      

I m just watching with curiosity


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...cause it's taking too long.   Even the Justice Dept is bored with this!

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This is amazing.

In an homage to the warrior-poets Warren G, Nate Dogg; I'm so thoroughly pleased by the regulators for once, they appear to have mounted up successfully.

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which do people woudl think would hapen 

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5 hours ago, Brad The Beast said:

Finally something is happening. What do we think will happen given they have to comply with current concessions or go to court. 

Court if they are playing to win.

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Back on topic...

I glad the DOJ issued that warning to the merging parties.    If they didn't put a deadline on this, I think it would drag on for another 2 months.     Make the move or don't.    

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I hope they go court personally. It will help clarify the limits of DOJ's powers to force a settlement and whether they have standing to sue under the antitrust laws in this instance. I am totally against spectrum concessions and I am also against any concessions that can come back to hurt T-Mobile.

 

 

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Fair enough

To be honest I wasn’t expecting anything so that’s all there is to it


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On 7/17/2019 at 3:35 PM, tyroned3222 said:

This imo is more of a sign that the merger announcement is imminent than anything else

How big is the marketing department? It is less than 5% of that number.  Say it's 200 people, less than 10 people got laid off/fired.  Yeah...

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So the big hold up is the MVNO agreement that Dish/Boost will get from T-Mobile. Since the terms will be rather beneficial, they don't  want somebody else to acquire Dish/Boost (cable Cos) and inherit the same terms. I have to say that the term of 3 years for the MVNO agreement is rather short.

https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/report-decision-days-could-be-at-hand-for-t-mobile-sprint-deal

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Sounds like T-Mo/Sprint will host Dish's spectrum for a good number of years... this is a good thing for us as I think it will help with coverage and depth as I believe we will get to use it too?  (Sprint/T-Mob) customers?   

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1 hour ago, dro1984 said:

Sounds like T-Mo/Sprint will host Dish's spectrum for a good number of years... this is a good thing for us as I think it will help with coverage and depth as I believe we will get to use it too?  (Sprint/T-Mob) customers?   

If they had to give up spectrum to Dish then they gave up too much and I would have let the DOJ sue. On the other hand, exchanging 800MHz SMR spectrum for 600Mhz spectrum down the line might be OK.

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I just want this all to be completed one way or another... I don't care anymore.  Just want all the uncertainty done with.   Time for Sprint and T Mobile to get back to business with or without each other...    Time to get it done!   

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